TW3 is the best RPG this generation and raised the bar of what to expect from AAA RPGs. It will always come up in this kind of thread.
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Then don't get surprised when people express their frustration at it constantly being brought up for even the most banal of comparisons, usually not even to make a comparison for discussion purposes, just another opportunity to praise TW3 and trash BioWare and Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Urgh, the opinion card. Yes, one can say it's an opinion, although I'd call it at least a consensus.
And I'm not surprised people are tired of it. I'd be surprised if nobody was. I'm just saying it will happen again and again.
Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 23, 2017 2:34:12 GMT
Comparing TW3 final game animations to non-polished teaser animations is asinine. It's like comparing a cake to flour and some eggs. It's not done in your examples, OP! Wait for the actual game to come out before you compare it to other finished games. And I didn't think any of it looked all that bad. You want great graphics and realistic animations? Go outside, kid. Everything's super HD and moves exactly like real life!!
"Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude
Then don't get surprised when people express their frustration at it constantly being brought up for even the most banal of comparisons, usually not even to make a comparison for discussion purposes, just another opportunity to praise TW3 and trash BioWare and Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Urgh, the opinion card. Yes, one can say it's an opinion, although I'd call it at least a consensus.
And I'm not surprised people are tired of it. I'd be surprised if nobody was. I'm just saying it will happen again and again.
We'll it is an opinion. And yes expect people to lash out whenever Witcher fans continuously brag about the game on the forums.
Comparing TW3 final game animations to non-polished teaser animations is asinine. It's like comparing a cake to flour and some eggs. It's not done in your examples, OP! Wait for the actual game to come out before you compare it to other finished games. And I didn't think any of it looked all that bad. You want great graphics and realistic animations? Go outside, kid. Everything's super HD and moves exactly like real life!!
Comparing TW3 final game animations to non-polished teaser animations is asinine. It's like comparing a cake to flour and some eggs. It's not done in your examples, OP! Wait for the actual game to come out before you compare it to other finished games. And I didn't think any of it looked all that bad. You want great graphics and realistic animations? Go outside, kid. Everything's super HD and moves exactly like real life!!
The final animations will be virtually the same.
Oh sweet! What's your inside info on the game since you must work at Bioware? Or are you psychic? Give me those lotto numbers!!
Seriously, let's just wait until the game comes out. If they are the same, then complain at that point. Until then it's just masterbation.
"Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude
Oh sweet! What's your inside info on the game since you must work at Bioware? Or are you psychic? Give me those lotto numbers!!
Seriously, let's just wait until the game comes out. If they are the same, then complain at that point. Until then it's just masterbation.
They always are.
It's not a prediction, it's just an fairly standard observation that animations do not change that much between gameplay reveals and the final game. If anything they get worse, like the Last of Us, in which some animations were cut from the final game.
Oh sweet! What's your inside info on the game since you must work at Bioware? Or are you psychic? Give me those lotto numbers!!
Seriously, let's just wait until the game comes out. If they are the same, then complain at that point. Until then it's just masterbation.
They always are.
It's not a prediction, it's just an fairly standard observation that animations do not change that much between gameplay reveals and the final game. If anything they get worse, like the Last of Us, in which some animations were cut from the final game.
Comparing TW3 final game animations to non-polished teaser animations is asinine.
TW3 demo animations were already fine as hell. Watch how that woman gives Geralt the fuck me eyes and compare it to Sara Ryder's stupid facial expression.
It's not a prediction, it's just an fairly standard observation that animations do not change that much between gameplay reveals and the final game. If anything they get worse, like the Last of Us, in which some animations were cut from the final game.
Comparing TW3 final game animations to non-polished teaser animations is asinine.
TW3 demo animations were already fine as hell. Watch how that woman gives Geralt the fuck me eyes and compare it to Sara Ryder's stupid facial expression.
That's still not the same thing. Unless the animations in the trailer diminish your enjoyment of the actual game, complaining about them compared to anything is pointless. And facial animations in dialogue are always the last to be polished because dialogue is the most likely thing to get cut from the game and why spend a bunch of time polishing it when it might get cut?
"Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude
Ya my fault, I just think they evolved with some consistency and I would expect the same from ME, meh, I am going to wait and see the final product to judge.
TW3 is the best RPG this generation and raised the bar of what to expect from AAA RPGs. It will always come up in this kind of thread.
Not often I agree with you SofNascimento, but I definitely do here.
I agree, it's the gold standard for open world RPGs right now, so comparing Andromeda to it makes sense: the level of butthurt the sheer bringing up of the game's name delivers on BSN still blows me away....it's like it's not possible to praise one game and still be a fan of the other.
So many people seem to think that by mentioning Gwynbleidd and his merry band of dingle dippers, it's a blight on galactic purity and the Mass Effect Universe in general, so odd....
Last Edit: Jan 23, 2017 3:26:50 GMT by Ivory Samoan
There is a moment of sheer panic when I realize that Anderson's apartment overlooks the Presidium... and is obviously more expensive than mine.
Oh sweet! What's your inside info on the game since you must work at Bioware? Or are you psychic? Give me those lotto numbers!!
Seriously, let's just wait until the game comes out. If they are the same, then complain at that point. Until then it's just masterbation.
They always are.
It's not a prediction, it's just an fairly standard observation that animations do not change that much between gameplay reveals and the final game. If anything they get worse, like the Last of Us, in which some animations were cut from the final game.
Then don't get surprised when people express their frustration at it constantly being brought up for even the most banal of comparisons, usually not even to make a comparison for discussion purposes, just another opportunity to praise TW3 and trash BioWare and Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Urgh, the opinion card. Yes, one can say it's an opinion, although I'd call it at least a consensus.
And I'm not surprised people are tired of it. I'd be surprised if nobody was. I'm just saying it will happen again and again.
Pretty sure it's just an opinion. I don't think TW3 is the best rpg of this generation either.
I can explain why peepee runs the way she does. Looking at her attire, she use to be a clown in the circus before joying the project. It also explains the way she runs. Its purposely done to make the crowd laugh. She when she runs naturally, she runs the way that is seen in the video
The scene from Sara gave me a good laugh. From what I've read/heard, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong, her animation will get some polish to make it better than what was seen.
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walking and running animations during gameplay are perfect, most of the animations in cutscenes are perfect too, that asari animations are very good, that you don't like how she moves does not mean that animations are bad, maybe the devs wanted her to look funny, i don't know, but the animation itself is fine facial animations and disarm animations could be better
(The Witcher 3 has perfect animations in cutscenes and most of the gameplay animations are perfect aswell the only really bad ones are enemies faling from their horses)
walking and running animations during gameplay are perfect, most of the animations in cutscenes are perfect too, that asari animations are very good, that you don't like how she moves does not mean that animations are bad, maybe the devs wanted her to look funny, i don't know, but the animation itself is fine facial animations and disarm animations could be better
(The Witcher 3 has perfect animations in cutscenes and most of the gameplay animations are perfect aswell the only really bad ones are enemies faling from their horses)
There are some wonky AF animations in The Witcher 3 too, Roach's legs have a mind of their own and when you die you ofen float about like an idiot XD.
There are plenty of things to fault in TW3, and it rises above those faults to be an amazing experience: this is my hope for Mass Effect: Andromeda
I like to think of any glitchy stuff and oddball animations as endearing in my top franchises (ME/TW/DA/TES/Fallout/DeusEx), otherwise one may indeed go crazy sweating the small things when the bigger things like grand adventuring, space friends and epic moments await us in this delicious land of RPG delights X
There is a moment of sheer panic when I realize that Anderson's apartment overlooks the Presidium... and is obviously more expensive than mine.
She makes a sharp turn and loses her balance. You're really nitpicking here. Try running across a smooth floor in boots.
In that case the angling will make you do a straight-leg slide, after which you'll get up and running again. If you don't angle yourself to counteract the momentum, you'll fall over like an idiot.
Except that there's an in-between. You can change direction without using the perfect angle or falling over.
I've seen similar hopping movements IRL when people try to change direction without quite getting the angle right or when overestimating the amount of traction available. They don't always end up on the floor.
The little bit we know about Peebee suggests she is an academic with tech and biotic abilities, not an athlete or a soldier. Call the animation cheesy or goofy if you want, but saying that it's unrealistic is just untrue.
BTW, gravity is relevant to the amount of traction you can get. Higher gravity forces you toward the ground and makes it harder to overbalance, and vice versa.
that asari animations are very good, that you don't like how she moves does not mean that animations are bad, maybe the devs wanted her to look funny, i don't know, but the animation itself is fine
Both her running animation and turning animation are shit.
She runs like male Ryder romanced her in the wrong hole the night before and those stupid one-legged hops do not account for the centrifugal force from turning during a sprint.
TW3 is the best RPG this generation and raised the bar of what to expect from AAA RPGs. It will always come up in this kind of thread.
Not often I agree with you SofNascimento, but I definitely do here.
I agree, it's the gold standard for open world RPGs right now, so comparing Andromeda to it makes sense: the level of butthurt the sheer bringing up of the game's name delivers on BSN still blows me away....it's like it's not possible to praise one game and still be a fan of the other.
So many people seem to think that by mentioning Gwynbleidd and his merry band of dingle dippers, it's a blight on galactic purity and the Mass Effect Universe in general, so odd....
I've seen you make a comment like this before, and I explained it then too. It's simple: people are tired of the constant Witcher 3 comparisons that are thinly veiled excuses to shit on other games/developers. Discussion and legitimately comparing the positive and negative points of W3 and another game is great and all, but most often it's just an overdone circlejerk. People are tired of it, and are reacting against it.
walking and running animations during gameplay are perfect, most of the animations in cutscenes are perfect too, that asari animations are very good, that you don't like how she moves does not mean that animations are bad, maybe the devs wanted her to look funny, i don't know, but the animation itself is fine facial animations and disarm animations could be better
(The Witcher 3 has perfect animations in cutscenes and most of the gameplay animations are perfect aswell the only really bad ones are enemies faling from their horses)
No they're not. Geralt's running animation, his dodges, and like half of his swings are as wonky as anything else in Mass Effect. Granted, they're all a hell of a lot better than they were in Witcher 2, but they're still not perfect.
Not often I agree with you SofNascimento, but I definitely do here.
I agree, it's the gold standard for open world RPGs right now, so comparing Andromeda to it makes sense: the level of butthurt the sheer bringing up of the game's name delivers on BSN still blows me away....it's like it's not possible to praise one game and still be a fan of the other.
So many people seem to think that by mentioning Gwynbleidd and his merry band of dingle dippers, it's a blight on galactic purity and the Mass Effect Universe in general, so odd....
I've seen you make a comment like this before, and I explained it then too. It's simple: people are tired of the constant Witcher 3 comparisons that are thinly veiled excuses to shit on other games/developers. Discussion and legitimately comparing the positive and negative points of W3 and another game is great and all, but most often it's just an overdone circlejerk. People are tired of it, and are reacting against it.
I agree and also disagree.
I agree that it's great to have legit conversations about 2 of the best RPG franchises ever, Mass Effect is space adventure perfected and The Witcher 3 is an exemplary open world RPG which is more the direction of Andromeda, so of course comparisons between these titans are always going to be mentioned by people with deep love for excellent RPGs and ties to both.
I disagree that it's more often than not a circlejerk: I think true passion for TW3 is often misconstrued as hate for ME, although there is some of that about (I admit the odd hater just jumps in, disses Shep and Co. with a TW3 comparison shitpost then leaves).
Reacting for the sake of reacting (the mere mention of the ghastly word 'Witcher') shouldn't be a thing, although reacting to people shitting on ME and using TW3 as an innocent tool for said shitting should definitely be pounced upon with gusto: that's wack as fuck and deserves hate. This is a BioWare fan forum so people jumping in and saying that "this that and the other is shit in Mass Effect since it's not like The Witcher" aren't doing it right: constructive comparisons should be allowed without the equally annoying Anti-Geralt brigade jumping on a brother/sister.
You're basically saying that any mention of the game deserves hate since some people (there are plenty not included in the all encompassing blanket group of 'people') feel Mass Effect is threatened by comparisons to a great game: when really, we know Mass Effect is just as great, and is an amazing gaming franchise that we love (that's why we're here, no?), and these comparisons shouldn't be able to shake our steadfast love for the ME Universe, but enhance it with great conversation in a cool community.
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2017 5:53:47 GMT by Ivory Samoan
There is a moment of sheer panic when I realize that Anderson's apartment overlooks the Presidium... and is obviously more expensive than mine.
Just be careful what you wish for by always bringing up The Witcher, next time we won't be able to choose the appearance of our character and not have any squad members due to people wanting the game to be more like The Witcher. We saw that with Skyrim and Dragon Age 2.
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