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Post by Cypher on Mar 10, 2017 0:38:35 GMT
It is no excuse. It is fact. I have managed to get a 1MBs connection -$50 a month (highway robbery but nothing to do) shame is its the only provider in the area -unless I want dial-up. And with a speed like this...that does not even stay that high constantly 0.75 seems baseline max continuous. Pre-load is annoying and in my case pointless: 0.75 MBs=96kBs.... 4GB in 12 Hours 8GB in 24 Hours 16 GB in 36 Hours 32 GB in 48 Hours 64 GB in 60 Hours Yep. That is nearly a three day pre-load. That is fine you say? Right. Sure it is -If you have nothing to do but sit and wait. I on the other hand have to use my internet for work so there are days this would not be able to run. So a three day preload turns into about a three week pre-load. www.salsaybachata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/NO.pngSo Bioware/EA should spend potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars more in order to accommodate a very, very, VERY small number of consumers like you?....and not because you CAN'T get the game, but because it would be an inconvenience to your situation? Never, ever gonna happen, and in 2017, the sympathy to plights like yours are shrinking faster than those who complain about a lack of Uber drivers in their area. I wouldn't say the 40 million people who live in Canada and the populations that don't live in NYC, LA, or Seattle are a small number of people. It's not just about speed, it's about obtuse data caps, of which the vast majority of people either have or will be getting within the next year or so.
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Post by laxian on Mar 12, 2017 10:51:30 GMT
What I have learned from this thread is that the USA is a backwards ass place. Dayumn. Those speeds, the amount payed for them. I almost feel sorry for you guys and gals. Not only the US, I am from Europe (Germany) and we have regions with bad internet still (despite our politicians preaching about bringing high speed internet to every household for over a decade now (and they keep sending money to the corporations, especially Deutsche Telekom (a formerly state owned company that even got the telecomunications network more or less as a gift from the state (meaning the old copper telephone cables etc.), sadly they squandered this gift instead of working tirelessly to make their infrastructure better etc...IMHO the network should be taken back by the state and only loaned/rented to the companies, especially the ones who control the market (which Telekom does in Germany!)) I myself have decently fast internet, but I am nowhere near the top of the internet-speed-food-chain! (can't expect that in a small village...I hope I'll be able to leave here soon...I would probably be happier in the city anyway!) greetings LAX
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Post by laxian on Mar 12, 2017 10:56:55 GMT
Yes they do hate them and they should. It is all the pc players faults we got the me3 ending, it was going to be a good ending but just to screw with the elite, pretentious posers that are pc players Bio changed it. Mustard race indeed. Gimme some of those drugs man! I am truly jealous if you think ME3's ending was good (I hated it and I still do, extended cut DLC does nothing for me but prolong the agony! I have played ME1 and 2 at least 10 times from start to finish (of not double that), but I've only done 3 runs of ME3 (and the last one I only did because I finally caved - couldn't wait for Andromeda and needed to play something (and I can recite a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2 from memory...at least when playing) - and got me the ME3 DLC...and I still dread the ending (I stopped after the mission to the Cerberus Base for the Prothean VI)...I doubt I will finish this run!) So yeah, I am jealous if you truly liked that ending (for me it ruined the experience and IMHO they should have gone with either: The Indoctrination Theory or they should have re-done ME3 (with a price drop for every player who already owns the crappy ME3 they released!) with the old writers and the dark energy plotline!) greetings LAX
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Post by laxian on Mar 12, 2017 11:03:20 GMT
My concern is that the game won't be optimized for M+KB because it's gonna be another console port (always optimize for the weakest hardware) and the devs are clearly console peasants who can't even play on PC without a controller. The video game shills "journalists" who get to release exclusive gameplay footage are peasants AND shit at video games. I have yet to see gameplay footage where someone plays with M+KB, even though it's all on PC to make the graphics look better than they are on consoles. Rest assured, they won't feature M+KB gameplay in marketing. It's been the tradition of AAA titles. In fact I think ever since DAI they are semi-forcing you to play with a controller since M+KB is so unplayable. Controller is unplayable for me (unless we are playing something like Mario Kart)! I can't hit the frontside of a large unmoving barn with a controller, while I am a decent enough sniper on PC greetings LAX ps: Yeah, I'd love to see them us KB and Mouse when showing the game at least sometimes (especially when they are already playing crappily like in that PAX Stream where that dev died several times )
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 12, 2017 12:46:07 GMT
Yes they do hate them and they should. It is all the pc players faults we got the me3 ending, it was going to be a good ending but just to screw with the elite, pretentious posers that are pc players Bio changed it. Mustard race indeed. Gimme some of those drugs man! I am truly jealous if you think ME3's ending was good (I hated it and I still do, extended cut DLC does nothing for me but prolong the agony! I have played ME1 and 2 at least 10 times from start to finish (of not double that), but I've only done 3 runs of ME3 (and the last one I only did because I finally caved - couldn't wait for Andromeda and needed to play something (and I can recite a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2 from memory...at least when playing) - and got me the ME3 DLC...and I still dread the ending (I stopped after the mission to the Cerberus Base for the Prothean VI)...I doubt I will finish this run!) So yeah, I am jealous if you truly liked that ending (for me it ruined the experience and IMHO they should have gone with either: The Indoctrination Theory or they should have re-done ME3 (with a price drop for every player who already owns the crappy ME3 they released!) with the old writers and the dark energy plotline!) greetings LAX Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite.
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 12, 2017 12:50:45 GMT
Gimme some of those drugs man! I am truly jealous if you think ME3's ending was good (I hated it and I still do, extended cut DLC does nothing for me but prolong the agony! I have played ME1 and 2 at least 10 times from start to finish (of not double that), but I've only done 3 runs of ME3 (and the last one I only did because I finally caved - couldn't wait for Andromeda and needed to play something (and I can recite a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2 from memory...at least when playing) - and got me the ME3 DLC...and I still dread the ending (I stopped after the mission to the Cerberus Base for the Prothean VI)...I doubt I will finish this run!) So yeah, I am jealous if you truly liked that ending (for me it ruined the experience and IMHO they should have gone with either: The Indoctrination Theory or they should have re-done ME3 (with a price drop for every player who already owns the crappy ME3 they released!) with the old writers and the dark energy plotline!) greetings LAX Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite.I wouldn't say it was bad, I thought the ending was pretty well received by reviewers and players alike.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 12, 2017 13:03:05 GMT
Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite.I wouldn't say it was bad, I thought the ending was pretty well received by reviewers and players alike. Depends on wheither he refers to the game including the DLC or on its own.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 12, 2017 14:38:24 GMT
Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite.I wouldn't say it was bad, I thought the ending was pretty well received by reviewers and players alike. It was when the game was released, but I have found over the years and even between the six months after the game was released and I went back to it opinions on the game shifted. I think the reviews had the same problem as Mass Effect 3 by the reviewers didn't complete the game prior to writing the review. Now I won't speak for anyone but myself, so the issues with the endings could be mine and mine alone. I think how I was treated by the community made it worse as well for when talking about it I would get responses that would say "I didn't understand the ending" and spent pages trying to explain to me why I was "dumb" and didn't understand it why never addressing my problems with it. In fact it was similar to Mass Effect 3, when my stance was "it was a mediocre ending, but that is what I was expecting" and people tried to explain why I was wrong and it was the worse thing ever.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 12, 2017 14:39:28 GMT
I wouldn't say it was bad, I thought the ending was pretty well received by reviewers and players alike. Depends on wheither he refers to the game including the DLC or on its own. I know I played the DLC, but I can't really remember much outside the premise of it. I rushed through it since it was part of my Steam pre-order since there were enough pre-orders to reach tier three of the bonuses, but really by the time they finally released it I was done with the game.
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Post by Jacket on Mar 12, 2017 14:40:13 GMT
Aaaand that's why I am slowly shifting back to consoles.
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Post by TormDK on Mar 12, 2017 14:41:03 GMT
Aaaand that's why I am slowly shifting back to consoles. HERESY!
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 12, 2017 14:43:57 GMT
I wouldn't say it was bad, I thought the ending was pretty well received by reviewers and players alike. It was when the game was released, but I have found over the years and even between the six months after the game was released and I went back to it opinions on the game shifted. I think the reviews had the same problem as Mass Effect 3 by the reviewers didn't complete the game prior to writing the review. Now I won't speak for anyone but myself, so the issues with the endings could be mine and mine alone. I think how I was treated by the community made it worse as well for when talking about it I would get responses that would say "I didn't understand the ending" and spent pages trying to explain to me why I was "dumb" and didn't understand it why never addressing my problems with it. In fact it was similar to Mass Effect 3, when my stance was "it was a mediocre ending, but that is what I was expecting" and people tried to explain why I was wrong and it was the worse thing ever. You could be right, unfortunately I did not play it when it first came out. Not to drift off topic too much but I did enjoy the ending and thought the game overall was excellent. For some reason or another I never touched it on release because all the hype during 2013 was about The Last of Us and GTA V.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 12, 2017 15:26:29 GMT
Yes they do hate them and they should. It is all the pc players faults we got the me3 ending, it was going to be a good ending but just to screw with the elite, pretentious posers that are pc players Bio changed it. Mustard race indeed. Gimme some of those drugs man! I am truly jealous if you think ME3's ending was good (I hated it and I still do, extended cut DLC does nothing for me but prolong the agony! I have played ME1 and 2 at least 10 times from start to finish (of not double that), but I've only done 3 runs of ME3 (and the last one I only did because I finally caved - couldn't wait for Andromeda and needed to play something (and I can recite a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2 from memory...at least when playing) - and got me the ME3 DLC...and I still dread the ending (I stopped after the mission to the Cerberus Base for the Prothean VI)...I doubt I will finish this run!) So yeah, I am jealous if you truly liked that ending (for me it ruined the experience and IMHO they should have gone with either: The Indoctrination Theory or they should have re-done ME3 (with a price drop for every player who already owns the crappy ME3 they released!) with the old writers and the dark energy plotline!) greetings LAX I think you had an irony detection fail there.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Mar 12, 2017 15:34:58 GMT
Gimme some of those drugs man! I am truly jealous if you think ME3's ending was good (I hated it and I still do, extended cut DLC does nothing for me but prolong the agony! I have played ME1 and 2 at least 10 times from start to finish (of not double that), but I've only done 3 runs of ME3 (and the last one I only did because I finally caved - couldn't wait for Andromeda and needed to play something (and I can recite a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2 from memory...at least when playing) - and got me the ME3 DLC...and I still dread the ending (I stopped after the mission to the Cerberus Base for the Prothean VI)...I doubt I will finish this run!) So yeah, I am jealous if you truly liked that ending (for me it ruined the experience and IMHO they should have gone with either: The Indoctrination Theory or they should have re-done ME3 (with a price drop for every player who already owns the crappy ME3 they released!) with the old writers and the dark energy plotline!) greetings LAX Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite. Because playing the Mass Effect trilogy was the video game equivalent of eating a full course dinner at a Michelin 3-star restaurant and then having a moldy slice of bread for dessert. A superbly well-done series which had a terrible ending. If the games were no good, no one would've cared. But the games were fantastic and ended in such a terrible fashion, to the point where it's become the poster child for what not to do if you're a dev team. People love Mass Effect, which is why its grease stain of an ending will never be forgotten.
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Post by Milady on Mar 12, 2017 15:42:50 GMT
Too bad on those with bad internet connection at preload, but as the years pass downloading a game is getting much more 'mainstream' rather than to buy it physical. Also you keep the money you'd spent otherwise thus could use it for better means (making a game for instance )
BUT wether it is console or PC; one has something that the other laks and there is no masterrace or priviledge or bioware/companies 'hating'. Deal with it
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 12, 2017 15:55:11 GMT
Going with either of those type of endings would have divided the playerbase just like Mass Effect 3, if not more. I really don't understand how people can't just let go of the endings of Mass Effect 3. There have been plenty of bad endings over the years including Assassin's Creed 3 and BioShock: Infinite. Because playing the Mass Effect trilogy was the video game equivalent of eating a full course dinner at a Michelin 3-star restaurant and then having a moldy slice of bread for dessert. A superbly well-done series which had a terrible ending. If the games were no good, no one would've cared. But the games were fantastic and ended in such a terrible fashion, to the point where it's become the poster child for what not to do if you're a dev team. People love Mass Effect, which is why its grease stain of an ending will never be forgotten. Imagining you are eating at a three star restaurant and then coming down to reality for the desert doesn't mean it is the fault of the meal. All three games had issues so I won't consider them to be at the level of a "three star restaurant". I hated the combat and exploration in the first game, the second game had no major development of the plot and removed almost any RPG aspects of the first, and the third catered too much fan service combined with at best a mediocre ending.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Mar 12, 2017 16:27:36 GMT
Because playing the Mass Effect trilogy was the video game equivalent of eating a full course dinner at a Michelin 3-star restaurant and then having a moldy slice of bread for dessert. A superbly well-done series which had a terrible ending. If the games were no good, no one would've cared. But the games were fantastic and ended in such a terrible fashion, to the point where it's become the poster child for what not to do if you're a dev team. People love Mass Effect, which is why its grease stain of an ending will never be forgotten. Imagining you are eating at a three star restaurant and then coming down to reality for the desert doesn't mean it is the fault of the meal. All three games had issues so I won't consider them to be at the level of a "three star restaurant". I hated the combat and exploration in the first game, the second game had no major development of the plot and removed almost any RPG aspects of the first, and the third catered too much fan service combined with at best a mediocre ending. Speak for yourself. At the time ME3 was released, ME2 was probably my favorite video game and Mass Effect was my favorite series. In early 2012, I was losing sleep over the impending release of ME3. And then the game came out. And then I found out about the endings. I was extremely disappointed. I made a thread about it (the infamous "So we can't get the ending we want after all?" one). I still played ME3 and especially the MP, but the luster was gone. The series, as much as I enjoyed the games, was never the same. And I still love the games for what they are, but that ending and the subsequent blowback and lack of a real solution from the devs has utterly tainted it as far as I'm concerned. In my experience, the food analogy is exactly what happened. I don't know who else in particular feels that way, but I know a lot of people felt similarly.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 12, 2017 17:01:53 GMT
And.... This is why I prefer console. Show up at 11:45 at my local GameStop, pick up my game at about 12:05, and pop it in by about 12:15. Cook some pizza rolls while I wait for the obligatory Day One patch, and I'm usually looking at the main menu screen by 12:30. No muss, no fuss, no need to worry about System Specs, nor UI optimization, nor KB/M porting. If I email you will you send me a pizza roll in the mail?
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 12, 2017 17:05:57 GMT
What I have learned from this thread is that the USA is a backwards ass place. Dayumn. Those speeds, the amount payed for them. I almost feel sorry for you guys and gals. Not only the US, I am from Europe (Germany) and we have regions with bad internet still (despite our politicians preaching about bringing high speed internet to every household for over a decade now (and they keep sending money to the corporations, especially Deutsche Telekom (a formerly state owned company that even got the telecomunications network more or less as a gift from the state (meaning the old copper telephone cables etc.), sadly they squandered this gift instead of working tirelessly to make their infrastructure better etc...IMHO the network should be taken back by the state and only loaned/rented to the companies, especially the ones who control the market (which Telekom does in Germany!)) I myself have decently fast internet, but I am nowhere near the top of the internet-speed-food-chain! (can't expect that in a small village...I hope I'll be able to leave here soon...I would probably be happier in the city anyway!) greetings LAX )) FTFY
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 12, 2017 17:10:23 GMT
Because playing the Mass Effect trilogy was the video game equivalent of eating a full course dinner at a Michelin 3-star restaurant and then having a moldy slice of bread for dessert. A superbly well-done series which had a terrible ending. If the games were no good, no one would've cared. But the games were fantastic and ended in such a terrible fashion, to the point where it's become the poster child for what not to do if you're a dev team. People love Mass Effect, which is why its grease stain of an ending will never be forgotten. Imagining you are eating at a three star restaurant and then coming down to reality for the desert doesn't mean it is the fault of the meal. All three games had issues so I won't consider them to be at the level of a "three star restaurant". I hated the combat and exploration in the first game, the second game had no major development of the plot and removed almost any RPG aspects of the first, and the third catered too much fan service combined with at best a mediocre ending. 3-star restaurant peasant problems
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Post by Urizen on Mar 12, 2017 18:09:19 GMT
All I ask for is no Omnibutton. #biovarpls Greetings LAX I would say that the internet excuse for digital downloads is a little antiquated now. There's preloading now and people need to be able to download patches anyways. Internet connection is really a necessity for a video gaming hobby in 2017. No, it isn´t. As has become clear in this very thread, not everyone is blessed with highspeed internet. At 50Mbit/s I need 60 minutes for 20 Gigabyte, read, I have MEA in a bit less than 3 hrs. A person with only 1MBit/s will already need a bit less than 150 hrs, or almost a week! And that is if said person doesn´t use the internet for other things. By comparison, most day one patches only weigh in at a couple of Gigabyte ( IIRC for fallout 4 I only needed to download around 2GB . That´s 6 minutes at 50 or 300 minutes at 1 MBit/s ). And then you will most likely have to reinstall the game at one point or another. Even 1 DVD9 can, with the right compressionrate, shave off 12 to 18 GB.
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Post by merlin217 on Mar 12, 2017 18:54:04 GMT
Rest assured, they won't feature M+KB gameplay in marketing. It's been the tradition of AAA titles. In fact I think ever since DAI they are semi-forcing you to play with a controller since M+KB is so unplayable. Controller is unplayable for me (unless we are playing something like Mario Kart)! I can't hit the frontside of a large unmoving barn with a controller, while I am a decent enough sniper on PC greetings LAX ps: Yeah, I'd love to see them us KB and Mouse when showing the game at least sometimes (especially when they are already playing crappily like in that PAX Stream where that dev died several times ) I was like you when it comes to controllers just 2 months ago. I couldn't even walk straight with a controller. But everything has a learning curve, if u r willing to get used to it, within 10 hours of gameplay u will start to appreciate how little effort it takes to use a controller.
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