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Post by Basquemercat117 on Mar 10, 2017 0:34:09 GMT
One of the things that has bothered me about the arks and the nexus is there construction, or how fast they were built. Now we know that the ark Hyperion is 1.7 km long, and the nexus is about 15 km long. we an assume that the other arks are the same size. i believe that there is no way the could have been built in the 10 years from the start of the project to launch with its access to only private benefactors.
Before i get to my issues, let me give some context through comparisons to other ships and stations in the mass effect universe. the largest ship the alliance ever built was the SSV Aconcagua dreadnought at 1km and took 3 years to build. the largest ship built by any of the council races is of course the Asari destiny accession at 2km, and we dont know how long it took to build that ship. there ships that bigger such as the Qurian live ships 2.817 km long, but we know that the qurians re purpose and recycle ships, so their live ships could be built and worked apon over decades, maybe longer. Since we only know how long one of these take to be built ( the SSV Aconcagua) we can compare that to the arks. Now the Nexus is abit easier to compare because there only one thing we can compare the Nexus to: the Crucible. you could say the citadel, but we have no idea how long the reapers took to build the citadel, and anything else such as the geth station or the any other station because we dont know long it took for them to be built. So the crucible is the closest thing we can compare it too. the crucible is about 10 km long and took from the start of the reaper war to the end to be built, so about 6 months.
with that context out of the way, the arks compared to our alliance dreadnought is .7 km longer, and the arks are way more advanced than our dreadnought. we dont know what type of armament and armor the arks, but we do know the arks have to keep together and being operable for over 600 years at ftl speeds, support 20,000 people in cyrostatsis in the arks (in comparison the destiny Ascension had a crew of 10,000), and then support any colony efforts after that 600 year journey. Not to mention that the Arks has experimental hydrogen engines that were years ahead of its time, especially compared to any other naval star ship at the time minus the Normandy. To add to the arks case, the arks were designed and built to have the idea in mind that they could not go to a space dock to get major repairs for over 600 years, so they had to be built with much higher quality than the dreadnought. dreadnoughts could easily take more punishment and have more firepower. but at longest that dreadnought would be in service for 100 years, with in comparison constant repairs in space docks. With that being said if the alliance supported the initiative i do believe they could have built a ark in three years. however the alliance didnt support the initiative, only private benefactors did. who these groups were we dont know, but there is no way it could have been at the same level as the alliance military industrial complex. and even if only the initiative made the arks one at a time at a rate of 1 every three years, it would have taken 12 years to build the arks alone (ill get to the nexus later). So realistically it would have to be on every race to build their own arks, which would be difficult without help from the council. that being said i dont believe that they could have built an ark in 3 years, at shortest it would take at minimum 5 to 6 years to be built each, and then they would have 5 to 4 years to test the arks. But thats assuming if each species built their own ark, and thats the best case scenerio. if only the initiative was building them, there is no way they could have been built in time.
Then we have the Nexus. now the case can be said that the crucible is not only more complicated and advanced than the nexus, but also took only 6 months to be built. but that was only done with the help from everything the galaxy could offer under the threat of the reapers, which is not fair to compare to the nexus. the nexus was built in a time of relative peace and only had private benefactors to give it resources. now i know the nexus wasnt complete in the milky way, but the part that was built was 15 km long and longer than the crucible. And in that 15 km it has to also go ftl speeds and support 100,000 crew and colonists without any repairs for that 600 years. the crucible is practically a galaxy wide WMD,so there is the case that the Nexus is far more complicated than the crucible. But in the case of the crucible Admiral Hacket said the crucible is the largest project the alliance has ever under taken, so the Andromeda initiative would have a struggle building something even bigger and could be said more complicated. However one could say that if a group like Cerberus could do alot by being funded private benefactors, . Cerberus was able to build numerous large stations and a sizable fleet. The issue is this logic is that Cerberus is more than likely larger as an orginzation and has more resources than the initiative does and has been around for about twice as long. We have no idea how long it took them to build anything worth comparing to. Even still Cerberus is considerably smaller than the alliance so they would not be able to build something like the arks or nexus at the same rate at the Alliance could
In conclusion there is no way the initiative could have built 4 arks and the nexus all in 10 years just by private benefactors alone. They most have gotten help for another larger force and i would not be surprised if the alliance is somehow secretly involved with the Andromeda initiative. But what do yall think?
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 10, 2017 1:09:07 GMT
One of the things that has bothered me about the arks and the nexus is there construction, or how fast they were built. Now we know that the ark Hyperion is 1.7 km long, and the nexus is about 15 km long. we an assume that the other arks are the same size. i believe that there is no way the could have been built in the 10 years from the start of the project to launch with its access to only private benefactors. Before i get to my issues, let me give some context through comparisons to other the largest ship the alliance ever built was the SSV Aconcagua dreadnought at 1km and took 3 years to build. the largest ship built by any of the council races is of course the Asari destiny accession at 2km, and we dont know how long it took to build that ship. there ships that bigger such as the Qurian live ships 2.817 km long, but we know that the qurians re purpose and recycle ships, so their live ships could be built and worked apon over decades, maybe longer. Since we only know how long one of these take to be built ( the SSV Aconcagua) we can compare to the arks. Now the Nexus is abt easier to compare because there only one thing we can compare the Nexus to: the Crucible. you could say the citadel, but we have no idea how long the reapers took to build the citadel, and anything else such as the geth station or the any other station because we dont know long it took for them to be built. So the crucible is the closest thing we can compare it too. the crucible is about 10 km long and took from the start of the reaper war to the end to be built, so about 6 months. with that context out of the way, the arks compared to our alliance dreadnought is .7 km longer, and the arks are way more advanced than our dreadnought. we dont know what type of armament and armor the arks, but we do know the arks have to keep together and being operable for over 600 years at ftl speeds, support 20,000 people in cyrostatsis in the arks (in comparison the destiny Ascension had a crew of 10,000), and then support any colony efforts after that 600 year journey. Not to mention that the Arks had experimental hydrogen engines that were years ahead of its time, especially compared to any other naval star ship at the time minus the Normandy. To add to the arks case, the arks were designed and built to have the iea in mind that they could not go to a space dock to get major repairs for over 600 years, so they had to be built with much higher quality than the dreadnought. dreadnoughts could easily take more punishment and have more firepower. but at longest that dreadnought would be in service for 100 years, with in comparison constant repairs in space docks. With that being said if the alliance supported the initiative i do believe they could have built a ark in three years. however the alliance didnt support the initiative, only private benefactors. who these groups were we dont know, but there is no way it could have been at the same level as the alliance military industrial complex. and even if only the initiative made the arks one at a time at a rate of 1 every three years, it would have taken 12 years to build the arks alone (ill get to the nexus later). So realistically it would have to be on every race to build there own arks, which would be difficult with help from the council. that being said i dont believe that they could have built an ark in 3 years, at shortest it would take at minimum 5 to 6 years to be built each, and then they would have 5 to 4 years to test the arks. But thats assuming if each species built their own ark, and thats the best case scenerio. if only the initiative was building them, there is no way they could have been built in time. Then we have the Nexus. now the case can be said that the crucible is not only more complicated and advanced than the nexus, but also took only 6 months to be built. but that was only done with the help from everything the galaxy could offer under the threat of the reapers, which is not fair to compare to the nexus. the nexus was built in a time of relative peace and only had private benefactors to give it resources. now i know the nexus wasnt complete in the milky way, but the part that was built was 15 km long and longer than the crucible. And in that 15 km it has to also go ftl speeds and support 100,000 crew and colonists without any repairs for that 600 years. the crucible is practically a galaxy wide WMD,so there is the case that the Nexus is far more complicated than the crucible. But in the case of the crucible Admiral Hacket said the crucible is the largest project the alliance has ever untaken, so the Andromeda initiative would have a struggle building something even bigger and could be said more complicated. However one could make the case of Cerberus being able to do so much off of private benefactors. Cerberus was able to build numerous large stations and a sizable fleet. The issue is this logic is that Cerberus is more than likely larger and has more resources than the initiative does and has been around for about twice as long. And we have no idea how long it took them to build anything worth comparing to. And even still Cerberus is considerably smaller than the alliance so they would not be able to build something like the arks or nexus at the same rate at the Alliance could In conclusion there is no way the initiative could have built 4 arks and the nexus all in 10 years just by private benefactors alone. They most have gotten help for another larger force and i would not be surprised if the alliance is somehow secretly involved with the Andromeda initiative. But what do yall think? This is a theory but its quite probable the andromeda initiative might have begun before the 2170s but perhaps it was renamed the andromeda initiative in the 2170s under Jien Garson. They probably began the project in the 2160s in anticipation of the reapers. Shepard was not the first person to learn about the reapers. For example, in the codex, a dead reaper starship known as the leviathan of dis was discovered by the batarian hedgemony who proceded to do research on reaper technology 20 years before ME1. If certain individuals such as the shadowbroker or the illusive man learnt of the relevance of the leviathan of dis in 2162, not long after humanity discovered the protheon mars ruins, they might have orchestrated construction of the nexus and arks as an escape plan. It would also explain why the AI was a secret until much later. The shadow broker was killed and the illusive man was indoctrinated in the game so they never went. If something like that happened, it might begin to explain the reason of the andromeda initiative. And why they were in such a rush to get out of the milky way without even finishing construction of the nexus.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Mar 10, 2017 1:37:11 GMT
it is possible that they could have rebranded, but going any eariler that the first contact war humanity would not have had the ability to even think about going to Andromeda. hell the only way they got to the level they did was by the protean archives. Sure there were people who knew about the reapers, but the reapers really made sure there was little evidence of their existence. and i doubt the alliance would have disagreed with shepard about the threat of the reapers if they knew what they could do. Also at the point of the first contact war the alliance had only "several dreadnoughts that were split between two fleets" and those were the Everest class dreadnoughts which was smaller than the Kilimanjaro class dreadnought (888 meters compared to 1000 meters respectively) so the alliance would not be able to build a 1.7 km long ship and a 15 km space station, let alone 4 of them.
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Post by jalis on Mar 10, 2017 2:45:06 GMT
Mar 10, 2017 2:09:07 GMT 1 theorigcylonhybrid said:
This is a theory but its quite probable the andromeda initiative might have begun before the 2170s but perhaps it was renamed the andromeda initiative in the 2170s under Jien Garson. They probably began the project in the 2160s in anticipation of the reapers.
some facts ; first contact war ; 2157 humans in Council as observer ; 2165 Humans member of the councils and first reaper reported ; 2183
It is very unlikely AI could start before the 70s. In the 60s humans had first to integrate new technologies and adapt + learn from other races and establish diplomatic and economic relation.
It is already not very credible humans start to dev an experimental new engine like ODSY when less than a generation earlier intra galatic travel was unknow.
Sorry to say that, but explanation is simply bioware in need of a connection with mass effect had to give a start date between about 2165 and 2183. It is possible to use Mars archives to explain AI is a human project. You can also use it to explain some people could have been aware of reapers before 2183. Eventually you can even explain that secret of ODSY really come from Mars archive to explain the outstanding technologic progress.
However for the cost, the little time take to build such colossal fleet, and super Bill gates who pay for all, I fear it is a bit to much for Mars archive. For this specific point I think the best to do if no answer exist is ; to say nothing. Chronology makes AI cant start before about 2165 and must leave not later than 2183/2185, even it is not credible.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 10, 2017 3:04:12 GMT
Mar 10, 2017 2:09:07 GMT 1 theorigcylonhybrid said:
This is a theory but its quite probable the andromeda initiative might have begun before the 2170s but perhaps it was renamed the andromeda initiative in the 2170s under Jien Garson. They probably began the project in the 2160s in anticipation of the reapers. some facts ; first contact war ; 2157 humans in Council as observer ; 2165 Humans member of the councils and first reaper reported ; 2183 It is very unlikely AI could start before the 70s. In the 60s humans had first to integrate new technologies and adapt + learn from other races and establish diplomatic and economic relation. It is already not very credible humans start to dev an experimental new engine like ODSY when less than a generation earlier intra galatic travel was unknow. Sorry to say that, but explanation is simply bioware in need of a connection with mass effect had to give a start date between about 2165 and 2183. It is possible to use Mars archives to explain AI is a human project. You can also use it to explain some people could have been aware of reapers before 2183. Eventually you can even explain that secret of ODSY really come from Mars archive to explain the outstanding technologic progress. However for the cost, the little time take to build such colossal fleet, and super Bill gates who pay for all, I fear it is a bit to much for Mars archive. For this specific point I think the best to do if no answer exist is ; to say nothing. Chronology makes AI cant start before about 2165 and must leave not later than 2183/2185, even it is not credible. Well then who says it was humans who initiated the project which came to be known as the andromeda initiative? Just because Jien garson lead the project in 2176 doesn't mean it was originally a human idea if it was rebranded..
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 10, 2017 3:07:30 GMT
it is possible that they could have rebranded, but going any eariler that the first contact war humanity would not have had the ability to even think about going to Andromeda. hell the only way they got to the level they did was by the protean archives. Sure there were people who knew about the reapers, but the reapers really made sure there was little evidence of their existence. and i doubt the alliance would have disagreed with shepard about the threat of the reapers if they knew what they could do. Also at the point of the first contact war the alliance had only "several dreadnoughts that were split between two fleets" and those were the Everest class dreadnoughts which was smaller than the Kilimanjaro class dreadnought (888 meters compared to 1000 meters respectively) so the alliance would not be able to build a 1.7 km long ship and a 15 km space station, let alone 4 of them. Why do you think humanity originally came up with the idea of the andromeda initiative? Maybe Jien Garson lead the project in 2176 when it first appeared but hypothetically, say the shadow broker or someone like him who isn't human began the project in the 2160s, then it was rebranded as a human initiative to facilitate cooporation between private investors because a single race would not be able to do the project on their own, they required collaboration.
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Post by kpsia518 on Mar 10, 2017 3:10:25 GMT
china's super fast high rise hotel construction in china tv news reviews
China build 57 storey skyscraper in record 19 days,so fast ship build in MEA why not ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 3:18:06 GMT
Reapers coming, let's get the fuck out... Speed this up, people!
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 10, 2017 3:20:40 GMT
It bothers me that people care about such insignificant details.
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Post by jalis on Mar 10, 2017 3:33:10 GMT
Why do you think humanity originally came up with the idea of the andromeda initiative? .
Nevertheless it is cristal clear ; Founded in 2176, Project founder Jien Garson. And right like you said he is not only the founder but also the leader. It is basically a human project, joigned by other races.
I m not sure bioware will give explanations, anyway. Like said dev need clean the past, but keep a connection with the licence. So for the question is it constructed too fast, my opinion is, probably yes. But bioware have probably not a better choice. For this question perhaps they have to force squares into circle for it works, but once in the game people will forget it.
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 10, 2017 3:44:49 GMT
It bothers me that people care about such insignificant details. And how do you 'know' that these details are insignificant? I've had more than a few books and movies that I stumbled because something didn't add up very well. In this instance, there's no direct link between the Mass Effect trilogy, so we are starting from scratch with Andromeda. And while I really don't expect a prequel to Andromeda, there's possible DLC and Andromeda Part 2... All unknown. But we won't know until we play the game and read all the novels. It might be explained in the story, codex or even one of the novels. The one title, coming out in June, "Mass Affect Andromeda: The Lost Ark," might have some explanatory background. And a year from now we can bury most of the speculation.
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 10, 2017 3:56:51 GMT
Could you just wait until the game is out before complaining that something doesn't add up? You don't even have half the facts right now, wait until we get the game and then you can dissect the information we get in the codex.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 3:58:26 GMT
Let's not even talk about logistics. The whole thing is a contrivance to the point of farcical laughter, but let's just run with it and start putting on the nitpicky glasses once the Andromeda setting has been entered... at least, that's what I'm doing.
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Post by colejj on Mar 10, 2017 4:53:41 GMT
So... The crucible, a highly advanced, giant, random thing that no one has ever built before gets, discovered, planned, and built and is operational all within ME 3 is completely believable.
A few really big ships get built over the course of a decade: OMG my immershunz!
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 10, 2017 4:55:49 GMT
Why do you think humanity originally came up with the idea of the andromeda initiative? .
Nevertheless it is cristal clear ; Founded in 2176, Project founder Jien Garson. And right like you said he is not only the founder but also the leader. It is basically a human project, joigned by other races.
I m not sure bioware will give explanations, anyway. Like said dev need clean the past, but keep a connection with the licence. So for the question is it constructed too fast, my opinion is, probably yes. But bioware have probably not a better choice. For this question perhaps they have to force squares into circle for it works, but once in the game people will forget it.
Its just we know so little about the game, its not 100% certain that this is set in stone until we play it. All i'm saying is that its possible there will be such a twist in game to explain the initiative and it would make a lot of sense based on what we know as of today. Because based on what we know right now about the AI without further information, it seems like very bad writing. They've had 5 years with experienced writers to come up with some logical reason as to why the initiative began and only took 10 years to build which is what I've just explained and it took me 1 minute.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 10, 2017 5:01:32 GMT
china's super fast high rise hotel construction in china tv news reviews China build 57 storey skyscraper in record 19 days,so fast ship build in MEA why not ? Pretty this; with enough prefabricated pieces--of which they'd likely have because it makes the most sense--large scale projects can be done quickly. There's videos online of prefab two story homes being thrown up in a day, and that'd take conventional construction weeks or months.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Mar 10, 2017 8:33:06 GMT
So... The crucible, a highly advanced, giant, random thing that no one has ever built before gets, discovered, planned, and built and is operational all within ME 3 is completely believable. A few really big ships get built over the course of a decade: OMG my immershunz! i mean the crucible already had blue print so they didn't have to develop it on their own, and Shepard started with most of the alliance working on it, and depending on your choices you can have literally every species in the galaxy to build it. with the added benifit of the being motivation by you know complete genoicide by the reapers. And what does it do? it powers the citadel and turns it into a galactic WMD. That is 10km long. The nexus has to be able to travel FTL speeds without the assistance of a mass relay for over 600 while carrying 100000 crew. And has to account for not being able to go to dry dock for over 600 years. And have the ODSY experimental drive in there to. now build that from scratch with no blue print to go off of. Oh yeah and build 4 ships built that are only smaller than the Destiny Accession and Qurian live ships. that only have hold 20,000 people crew, but still has to go FTL speeds for 600 years without the help of a mass relay, and no chance of dry dock repair. all from scratch. without any blueprints. oh and by the way you have a no where near the resources that even the alliance has, let alone any other military. And do all this in a year. So yeah the AI is abit more involved than the crucible.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Mar 10, 2017 8:49:18 GMT
china's super fast high rise hotel construction in china tv news reviews China build 57 storey skyscraper in record 19 days,so fast ship build in MEA why not ? Pretty this; with enough prefabricated pieces--of which they'd likely have because it makes the most sense--large scale projects can be done quickly. There's videos online of prefab two story homes being thrown up in a day, and that'd take conventional construction weeks or months. This assumes that the AI did that, but they still had to design the ship. and im pretty sure that chinese building took months if not a year of planning, not to mention a ton of time building on the parts to the buiding. and a comparison of a building with replicated patterns and simplified design is nothing compared to a spaceship that has to survive a journey of 600 years at faster than FTl speeds. grant i wouldn't be surprised if they simplified and replicated certain designs in the arks, but you have to start somewhere and still could be difficult to build.
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 10, 2017 9:18:27 GMT
Pretty this; with enough prefabricated pieces--of which they'd likely have because it makes the most sense--large scale projects can be done quickly. There's videos online of prefab two story homes being thrown up in a day, and that'd take conventional construction weeks or months. This assumes that the AI did that, but they still had to design the ship. and im pretty sure that chinese building took months if not a year of planning, not to mention a ton of time building on the parts to the buiding. a nd a comparison of a building with replicated patterns and simplified design is nothing compared to a spaceship that has to survive a journey of 600 years at faster than FTl speeds. grant i wouldn't be surprised if they simplified and replicated certain designs in the arks, but you have to start somewhere and still could be difficult to build. That isn't the best reasoning, safe to say our technology pales in comparison to the Mass Effect universe. Some species like the Asari have been space faring for thousands of years, I don't think it's implausible that with the combined might of the Citadel races that they can build them. I don't think this matters at all in the grand scheme of the story anyway but each to their own.
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 10, 2017 9:21:53 GMT
We're talking about a universe where, if you have enough money, you can raise a man from death. And clone him too, in adult form nonetheless.
So I'm sure the answer to your problem is 'a lot of money'.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 10, 2017 9:40:42 GMT
Pretty this; with enough prefabricated pieces--of which they'd likely have because it makes the most sense--large scale projects can be done quickly. There's videos online of prefab two story homes being thrown up in a day, and that'd take conventional construction weeks or months. This assumes that the AI did that, but they still had to design the ship. and im pretty sure that chinese building took months if not a year of planning, not to mention a ton of time building on the parts to the buiding. and a comparison of a building with replicated patterns and simplified design is nothing compared to a spaceship that has to survive a journey of 600 years at faster than FTl speeds. grant i wouldn't be surprised if they simplified and replicated certain designs in the arks, but you have to start somewhere and still could be difficult to build. Why wouldn't they move in that direction when: 1. We're literally moving in that direction in real life because it's more efficient in terms of build time, but also more efficient since you're not wasting material on site and they're nearly 200 years in the future with advanced alien technology to make prefab building a hell of a lot faster. 2. Prefab structures are known to be used in-lore. Yes, design process can take time, but if you know that you're going to need X amount of square feet for people to walk around in, you can go ahead and cut out floor tiles in a factory and ship them out to a construction site and toss them into your ship/building/whatever faster than you could simply ship raw materials out to your construction site--measure, cut, place, measure again because 76% of what you just laid is off center but it's still stable so you're not going to pull everything up and start from scratch, cut, lay, and then repeat the same process for everything else because your build is off center from the original plans. Prefab makes everything into giant lego, even if architects spent 6 months to a year and a half drawing up blueprints. And since the four arks and the Pathfinder scout ships all share the same exact design, it makes far more sense that parts were prefabbed and then construction workers slapped it all together than it does for them to have raw material shipped out to the moon and for them to cut, measure, lay, etc a bunch of times. edit: Also, a skyscraper is the perfect example since spaceships would be similar in length to skyscrapers; just imagine that they had jet engines and whatnot slapped inside. Plus, they have a larger workforce pool, and with zero-gs in space, plus mass effect fields, you won't have the logistical nightmare of having to move huge ass pieces that were constructed in separate locations. So they could have three places use prefab parts and build sections of the ship and then send it off to where it gets put together a hell of a lot faster than it would take for a single set of construction workers on a site slugging it away on their own. If construction workers in New York, Shanghai, and Sydney could build the tallest skyscraper in the world by each city having their own third of the skyscraper built and then shipped off to a central location where the whole thing could be assembled with no issues, that would be a hell of a lot faster than just Sydney construction workers doing the project themselves, prefabbed parts or not.
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 10, 2017 9:49:00 GMT
Was Alliance involved? Pretty much guaranteed. Is it realistic lore-wise? No. Possible lore-wise? "Resources".
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Post by Xerxes52 on Mar 10, 2017 10:35:05 GMT
Yes, given what little we know about the various ME governments' industrial output, it does seem odd that they can crank out four multi kilometer arks and a fifteen kilometer space station in such a short time. Unless it's built by some NGO Superpower like Cerberus or somebody finally figured out the magic of mass automation instead of "people with hammers", it doesn't make much sense. Who knows, maybe it was funded by Weyland-Yutani.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 10, 2017 10:40:06 GMT
It's typical of Mass Effect, really.
Humanity got super speedy in technological advacment, territorial expansion and political power in ME universe as well. Bioware just has no sense of time.
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Post by shepherdcommander on Mar 10, 2017 10:48:01 GMT
I'm going to say... everything fell into their laps... a spin on the dark ark theory explains the arks away...
then take part of my me3 ending theory: the crucible had been used by a previous cycle and the 'spent cartridge' was recovered by an ancient alien species then passed down to the protheans. I hadn't thought about the implications of this fully before: in the destroy and synthesis endings the citdadel is destroyed, if the catalyst had been used by a previous cycle it would mean that the citadel had been destroyed before, maybe multiple times.
it could be that the nexus is a part of a previous cycles' citadel that was destroyed when they tried/failed to use their crucible.
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