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Post by Mythgar on Mar 10, 2017 15:11:38 GMT
Loved it. I personally enjoyed the choice of song, made it feel very movie-like in nature, which I don't think is a bad thing considering what they decided to show off. Definitely some bits of information in the trailer that we hadn't heard yet, which is intriguing. I'm not sure what is more unbelievable at this point: How excited I am for this game, or the fact that the game releases in less than 2 weeks.
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Post by bizantura on Mar 10, 2017 15:15:24 GMT
Human Effect: Humanomeda. Seriously, Mac, could you at least TRY to make the human exceptionalism less obvious? I don't mind "human exceptionalism" just that "delusional" big country solely on earth one.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 10, 2017 15:15:31 GMT
I love how Bioware is supposedly pandering to the gays and the womenz by having most of it's trailers featuring the white male protag and all the babes he can bang. Not that I take issue with that, cool trailer overall. Sara's animations are still bad tho. It's just the reality hitting you. You can hype up LGBTWHATEVER romances on social media and whatnot, but at the end of the day when you release an AAA game you want to pander to the biggest target demographic. Which are the white cishet devils (presumably in their teens and fresh off a Battlefield match). That's what I was saying, and I have no problem with it. Mass Effect probably gets most of it's sales from the bro shooter crowd anyway. Tho I could be wrong about that I have no actual stats. It's just funny to me how adding options for other people at all or talking about it at all is seen as pandering, but actual pandering in the trailers is fine. Like it is fine, it's business but still it's not the narrative about bioware being pushed.
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Post by pdomi on Mar 10, 2017 15:16:50 GMT
Hot damn! Would you mind sharing that? I'll try sending you the pic as a PM. Not ure if it has lost quality, it's a screenshot from the video.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 15:20:20 GMT
I wouldn't have minded humans being less important (the focus would've been on them anyway given the race of the pc), but it's not a big deal. The IP started and finished with humanity as the heroes that save everyone. They're just continuing towards that path.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 10, 2017 15:21:26 GMT
Human Effect: Humanomeda. Seriously, Mac, could you at least TRY to make the human exceptionalism less obvious? I don't mind "human exceptionalism" just that "delusional" big country solely on earth one. I still am waiting for a sci-fi space opera in which humanity features more Chinese people. I appreciated Firefly because of the fact Chinese was the lingua franca of that universe.
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Post by Dukemon on Mar 10, 2017 15:23:42 GMT
BoomBoomTrailer with ChartMusic (The song is from latest Bond movie Spectre, is not it?)
What I Don't like:
naked scene with Scott and an Asari instead of Sarah and Asari naked (I dont expect a naked Scene with Scott and Gil or Reyes, I would dont like it) a lot of boom a cutscene that says, this will happen no matter which decisions you have mad because there are no decisions to avoid this scene seems like Human saves the day-plot
What I do like:
Space serious looking Scott
nice graphic but this has no meaning, graphic power is not important and no reason to buy a game
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 15:26:59 GMT
God fucking dammit. ...I actually liked this trailer.
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Mar 10, 2017 15:26:59 GMT
I was hoping for some Eve Online style synth. Something kinda haunting and cold, melancholy, minamalist with no lyrics, just a soundscape etc... More in tune with a hard sci-fi atmosphere. But alas, the generic, lowest common denominator music choice detracted from the trailer for me. Rubbish song. But i have to admit people like me are not the target audience, Bioware doesnt really care about the hard science fiction nerd like me. They are never gonna release a mainstream trailer like what i would like(they'd have to complete re-cut this trailer for my music choice to work though).
But the trailer itself... Pretty meh to horrible. But then if you were already gonna buy the game, i doubt its gonna have much effect on you. This trailer is for the mass market, the Assasisins Creed/Fifa/Maden/COD/GTA/Battlefield crowd etc.. and on that basis i guess it does what it needs to do. Its a good trailer from that pov, not bad.
So yeah thats my 2 pennies.
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Post by dazzarlok on Mar 10, 2017 15:29:09 GMT
BoomBoomTrailer with ChartMusic (The song is from latest Bond movie Spectre, is not it?) What I Don't like: naked scene with Scott and an Asari instead of Sarah and Asari naked (I dont expect a naked Scene with Scott and Gil or Reyes, I would dont like it) a lot of boom a cutscene that says, this will happen no matter which decisions you have mad because there are no decisions to avoid this sceneseems like Human saves the day-plot What I do like: Space serious looking Scott nice graphic but this has no meaning, graphic power is not important and no reason to buy a game Sounds like the ME3 ending (jk)
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 15:31:18 GMT
It fits with the tone they've been going for. I did not like the first snippet they showed yesterday but this one, I kinda dug it. The added orchestral elements and cuts made it work and it fits with the youthful perspective of Ryder who is this "I'm gonna explore and show people what I can do!" kinda guy/girl. The "I'm only human" lyric fits perfectly as well.
I would've loved an atmosphereic vibe too, but it's been clear for a while that this game from a tone-POV is kinda off of ME3 in that it's very emotionally charged, it takes the popular aspects of ME2 like the space opera feel, and then it's rooted in some kind of sci-fi but the characters are going to be pretty chill about what is going on and I don't expect the Archon threat to feel like it's deserving of "haunting". I'm sensing another Corypheus in him. A generic bad dude who has a reasonable motive (if you look into it) but nonetheless he's just your average taunting, villanous bad guy who you beat near the end and that's that. Then there's probably some larger story like in DA:I that goes beyond simply what Archon is about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:31:37 GMT
I wouldn't have minded humans being less important (the focus would've been on them anyway given the race of the pc), but it's not a big deal. The IP started and finished with humanity as the heroes that save everyone. They're just continuing towards that path. Star Trek was pretty human-centric, without going all exceptionalist, though. One of my favorite moments in the series is when Picard tells Dathon the Tamarian captain (the 'Darmok' episode; 'Darmok and Jalad, at Tanagra' ... 'Temba, his arms wide', etc.) about the Epic of Gilgamesh, as an example of the human heritage. That moment gave me the chills, similar to when Vulcans talk about loving Mozart, etc. It's nice to be able to feel a bit of pride in our humanity as such, through our best achievements. I'd love to be able to tell an extraterrestrial: 'Yeah, I'm from the species one of whose members wrote Hamlet', etc. Though in Mass Effect we really didn't get that sort of pride in one's human heritage; it's more a matter of we learn faster than any of you, and we've got larger dicks to boot, you got nothing on us, haha type of 'pride'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:31:48 GMT
Cool trailer, poor musical choice IMO.
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Post by Dukemon on Mar 10, 2017 15:32:19 GMT
Well, the milky way plot is not finished yet. Bioware has chosed to avoid to develop an answer by the question 'How it goes on by destroy ending?' 'How it goes on after controll ending?' and so on.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 15:33:00 GMT
I am VERY happy that it shows BOTH Scott and Sara. Thank you BW! It does... but is Sara the playable version in this trailer or is that what happens to her if you don't play as her, is my question.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:33:42 GMT
I am VERY happy that it shows BOTH Scott and Sara. Thank you BW! It does... but is Sara the playable version in this trailer or is that what happens to her if you don't play as her, is my question. Pretty sure the twin you don't play is kidnapped and used because of SAM.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:34:57 GMT
Why I am always at work when the exciting stuff releases? (sigh) looking forward to watching it. As always.
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Post by bizantura on Mar 10, 2017 15:35:09 GMT
I don't mind "human exceptionalism" just that "delusional" big country solely on earth one. I still am waiting for a sci-fi space opera in which humanity features more Chinese people. I appreciated Firefly because of the fact Chinese was the lingua franca of that universe. And why not, Asian community is a big one. If anything computer games don't reflect earth's reality demographics at all.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 15:36:57 GMT
Well, the milky way plot is not finished yet. Bioware has chosed to avoid to develop an answer by the question 'How it goes on by destroy ending?' 'How it goes on after controll ending?' and so on. No story is ever about its epilogue. We know it's going to be safe and well and Synthesis is so impossible to answer (so impossible in concept in Mass Effect context) that they simply CAN'T answer it and nobody can unless they wanna outright show us how unlikeable the setting becomes then (in synthesis). Control and Destroy both hint well at what is to come. I think Wreav survived without Eve in my last playthrough and Shepard ominously says "We will safeguard the many from themselves" or something as it pans over Wreav, to show you that if some race think they can dominate, the Reapers will step in again. It's not BioWare's job to tell us what happens after those endings. Perhaps if they had taken a better approach to ME3's plot they could've had a fleshed out conclusion like Halo 3 (just an example) or MGS4 where you actually get a couple of scenes in the aftermath - I always pictured Shepard or his team being at Anderson's public memorial on Earth - and they'd have a few conversations that answer A) What's going to happen to the council species going forward and What will Shepard (if alive) do and what will his crew do? That was the kind of ending I was hoping the most for.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 10, 2017 15:37:20 GMT
That's not Peebee with Scott. That's Dr. Lexi. Just because they're both Asari doesn't mean they can be confused for one another
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:37:48 GMT
That's not Peebee with Scott. That's Dr. Lexi. Just because they're both Asari doesn't mean they can be confused for one another The black strip across the eyes proves it's PeeBee.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 10, 2017 15:38:18 GMT
It's just the reality hitting you. You can hype up LGBTWHATEVER romances on social media and whatnot, but at the end of the day when you release an AAA game you want to pander to the biggest target demographic. Which are the white cishet devils (presumably in their teens and fresh off a Battlefield match). That's what I was saying, and I have no problem with it. Mass Effect probably gets most of it's sales from the bro shooter crowd anyway. Tho I could be wrong about that I have no actual stats. It's just funny to me how adding options for other people at all or talking about it at all is seen as pandering, but actual pandering in the trailers is fine. Like it is fine, it's business but still it's not the narrative about bioware being pushed. Somebody recently postem ME1 launch trailers. I wish BioWare was still that company that tried to get you on the hook with the mysterious stuff. Right not I can only hope there will be bits and pieces of them present under the facade of Michael Bay / F&F movie.
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Post by vyndral on Mar 10, 2017 15:39:13 GMT
That's not Peebee with Scott. That's Dr. Lexi. Just because they're both Asari doesn't mean they can be confused for one another The black strip across the eyes proves it's PeeBee. Maybe it is a roleplay thing.... can you be PeeBee today?
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Post by luke on Mar 10, 2017 15:39:21 GMT
I absolutely loved the music choice. It looks like we're going to see the protagonist take a few hits, so it could be really fitting thematically if that's the case.
Also, anyone else see that Kett-ified Krogan? Could this confirm that the Kett we've seen and the Angara are in fact the same race?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:39:37 GMT
I still am waiting for a sci-fi space opera in which humanity features more Chinese people. I appreciated Firefly because of the fact Chinese was the lingua franca of that universe. And why not, Asian community is a big one. If anything computer games don't reflect earth's reality demographics at all. I'm saying this not in a confrontational way. This would be up to the Asians to create a universe and a story in which obviously their cultures have a leading role. As a westerner I'm kind of interested in seeing other cultures perspective on sci-fi. I would be totally digging a sci-fi novel or game made by Chinese or Russians. Sadly they aren't there yet.
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