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Post by stysiaq on Mar 13, 2017 6:14:18 GMT
Trollong or no having control over companions equipment doesn't make a game an RPG. It's just common in them. If that's what is required to make it an RPG for you then to fuckin' bad as far as I'm concerned. Go play some PnP and try to dictate what everyone should be doing. Stripping an 'RPG' out of features that are characteristic to the RPGs makes it less and less of an RPG. ME:A is now more of a platformer than RPG.
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Post by Adhin on Mar 13, 2017 6:27:17 GMT
Trollong or no having control over companions equipment doesn't make a game an RPG. It's just common in them. If that's what is required to make it an RPG for you then to fuckin' bad as far as I'm concerned. Go play some PnP and try to dictate what everyone should be doing. Stripping an 'RPG' out of features that are characteristic to the RPGs makes it less and less of an RPG. ME:A is now more of a platformer than RPG. While I agree with your primary statement, your follow up I call bullshit on. MEA from what we've seen has 'more' RPG elements in it then any past game. Telling your squadmates what they should be using or wearing is just a common thing in cRPG's but isn't some mandatory feature that makes an RPG what it is. It just happens to be common. Our skill customization and item customization is far more varied then it has been. Conversations are still a thing, player choices in the narrative is still a thing. This whole can't equip squadies with what weapon you want them to use is a bummer from a player control stand point, but doesn't make it less of an RPG. It does, however, mean the squadies have more concrete sense of them selves that doesn't exist when you can make them use and wear whatever the shit you feel like. I mean you can make Cassandra in DAI run around naked with no weapons equipped. That's completely bullshit to her character, if anything thats anti-RPG. But games have just happened to let you do that so it's a standard. Does the lack of control suck? Sure, for some, but at least call it for what it is, not some hyperbole pile of made up shit like everyone else seems to be doing.
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Post by Fredward on Mar 13, 2017 6:39:56 GMT
Somehow I think they'll be okay without your money OP.
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Post by bshep on Mar 13, 2017 6:58:07 GMT
And another troll...
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 13, 2017 6:59:17 GMT
You really gotta wonder how shitty, uninteresting and miserable some people's lives are; so much so that they get this upset (for pathetic reasons) and feel the need to make posts like this that are honestly filled with such incredible fuckwittery, you just have to believe that they're trolling. If they are really trolling, then their lives must be just as shitty to drive them to aggravate on people on the internet for entertainment. Assuming you are mentally deficient and therefore being serious... that's never going to happen. Either buy the full game, experience it, and THEN make your opinions - or don't, and fuck off. byee hahahahahahaha Yet your perfect life was triggered by my thread. Point taken, champ.
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 13, 2017 7:43:54 GMT
I was hoping no one would notice haha
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 13, 2017 7:48:13 GMT
If this thread is locked, it will be because the vast majority of you cannot argue with my post in any intelligent way beyond flaming.
Getting called a cunt, for example, because I have a different opinion about how this game is turning out to be upon release, and how I would pay for the portion of it that I want to play... Is classy.
Stay classy, fanboyolas
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 13, 2017 7:58:33 GMT
I'm kinda disappointed they made so sure about not having MP have any influence in SP. Sometimes you have incentivize people to see all the goodies and you can't experience combat gameplay when you run through the SP in story mode.
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Post by vynticator on Mar 13, 2017 8:17:13 GMT
Of course, the fanbois think I'm trolling. Having an opinion that disagrees with yours = trolling. Yay. If they want my money, they should consider selling the portion of the game I am interested in. Yeah, not sure they want your money, mate. Off you go. We'll force ourselves to play this game and pretend we're having fun but you'll be sitting on your sofa knowing you were so, so right about it even without playing.
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Post by vynticator on Mar 13, 2017 8:22:50 GMT
I'm kinda disappointed they made so sure about not having MP have any influence in SP. Sometimes you have incentivize people to see all the goodies and you can't experience combat gameplay when you run through the SP in story mode. You do get bonus SP resources from the MP missions, the strike teams ones, think they're called Apex missions. They may add in more SP/MP crossover - one of the devs seemed receptive to the idea that habitat viability might be boosted a bit by regular MP maintenance of the area in a comparable way to 'war readiness'.
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Post by Garo on Mar 13, 2017 8:45:07 GMT
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 13, 2017 8:47:44 GMT
Yeah, not sure they want your money, mate. Off you go. We'll force ourselves to play this game and pretend we're having fun but you'll be sitting on your sofa knowing you were so, so right about it even without playing. They are in the business of selling games, right? Of course they want my money. Insert
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Post by n7vakarian on Mar 13, 2017 8:48:33 GMT
If this thread is locked, it will be because the vast majority of you cannot argue with my post in any intelligent way beyond flaming. Getting called a cunt, for example, because I have a different opinion about how this game is turning out to be upon release, and how I would pay for the portion of it that I want to play... Is classy. Stay classy, fanboyolas If you don't want the game don't buy it, that's all I can say really but you know they won't sell the mp solo. Either suck it up and buy the game or just leave it. But that's your opinion about the game not being good not others. All I can say really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 8:50:57 GMT
I don't think you are trolling, but what is amazing to me is that you know the single player is going to suck without having read a single review of it, heard from fans or even played it yourself. You can see into the future, yes? Lets say that it will indeed be terrible based on what information we have, that doesn't change the fact that the SP/MP are linked and it would never make sense to sell them separately.
It is an Interesting concept though, and it is something they should try with very popular MP series like Call of Duty and Battlefield. Difference there is that the campaign is only 5 - 10 hours long, not a 100 which might be the case from Andromeda. My advice, get EA access for 5 bucks, play the MP a lot and see if it is to your liking. If its not then don't buy the game at all as it seems you don't want to or will like the SP.
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Post by Kantr on Mar 13, 2017 9:02:40 GMT
Yeah, not sure they want your money, mate. Off you go. We'll force ourselves to play this game and pretend we're having fun but you'll be sitting on your sofa knowing you were so, so right about it even without playing. They are in the business of selling games, right? Of course they want my money. Insert No. They're in the business of making story based character role playing games with multiplayer tacked on as an after thought. EA is in the business of selling games and they did not budget for making "Battlefront Mass Effect" as well as ME:A. You want a seperate game? Go talk to EA's board or buy up all their shares and then get them to get Bioware to create a multiplayer game that probably wouldn't get many sales.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 13, 2017 9:24:57 GMT
I'm kinda disappointed they made so sure about not having MP have any influence in SP. Sometimes you have incentivize people to see all the goodies and you can't experience combat gameplay when you run through the SP in story mode. You do get bonus SP resources from the MP missions, the strike teams ones, think they're called Apex missions. They may add in more SP/MP crossover - one of the devs seemed receptive to the idea that habitat viability might be boosted a bit by regular MP maintenance of the area in a comparable way to 'war readiness'. If people liked the Armax Arena that might work out for them as well.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 13, 2017 9:29:00 GMT
They are in the business of selling games, right? Of course they want my money. Insert No. They're in the business of making story based character role playing games You see, I used to be an idealist like you. Then I took the ME3 storyline and DAI to the knee. They got my money for years without a moment's hesitation. I used hyperbole in the OP to foment a frothy discussion. The SP community did not fail me. I know nothing with surety about the quality of the SP game on release day, but from everything they've shown us, I for one am not buying it. But that was not the point of my post. The point was, Biower could tell us what proportion of the budget went into the current form of MP and is projected to cost through all planned DLC, and from that make a pro-rated MP-only .exe. I for one would be very interested to see those numbers. As for MP being tacked-on, that was certainly the case with ME3MP -- and it turned out to be better than most of the SP and far more replayable. ME:AMP is expected to be more... And the SP gameplay seems to be based off of it. Do you really think this MP of your precious new game is just a thrown-in afterthought? I find it far more likely to be the only successful part of the game, and a far greater focus than any true Bioware fan would actually want.
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Post by si_r84 on Mar 13, 2017 10:02:54 GMT
As Akrabra said take out Origin Access play 10 hours on multiplayer during early access then if you think to yourself you know what this is actually worth the price in the way Overwatch is go ahead and by and if it is really just a stripped down add on to a SP game then don't buy. All you have lost in that is the price of one month of Origin Access.
As for if SP will be any good, guess what, I have no idea as the game isn't out yet so I haven't played it. Even reviews aren't out but as we know a review is someones opinion so a reviewer could see the game as amazing or crap but it doesn't mean you would agree and might honestly find it the complete opposite.
Yes the Mass Effect Trilogy evolved over its lifespan in ways that were both good and bad and I am fortunate in that the endings didn't ruin it for me, I loved the journey and still do love going back every now and then to experience the vibe of the game. Again DA:I got alot of flack of which I don't entirely agree with though can appreciate some of the views so I am luck in that I still enjoy it. Are BioWare as good as their heyday? Even as a fan I would accept probably not. Are they now a bad game making company? No definitely not. If anything I do believe we as a community at times put far to much pressure on the games to which no game could match so we will therefore be disappointed.
All I know is I have pre-ordered and I will be keeping the pre-order as I know even if ME:A isn't utter amazeballs best game of the whole human race in like forever it will still be a world I can get lost in after a hard days work when both my young kids are asleep and I get that one maybe two hours of time alone to relax and for that I will be thankful. Does that make me a fanboy or a realist, I don't know, but I am a gamer as as a gamer I always have hope and faith in developers and their games regardless of if they are my cup of tea.
I just realised I went off on a bit of a tangent there people, apologies lol
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 13, 2017 10:05:31 GMT
No. They're in the business of making story based character role playing games ME:AMP is expected to be more... And the SP gameplay seems to be based off of it. Do you really think this MP of your precious new game is just a thrown-in afterthought? I find it far more likely to be the only successful part of the game, and a far greater focus than any true Bioware fan would actually want. I'll actually respond to that part. The SP has always, and will always, be the primary focus in a Bioware game (more specifically Mass Effect and Dragon Age game). The multiplayer, while not a thrown in feature, is definitely not the focus. If you honestly think, that then you've missed the past...2 (?) years of trailers, information and other such things leading up to the launch of the game. Its true they took some ideas from ME3 MP in order to give more variety to the SP combat but a good majority of the game is just a continuation of features brought up in ME3 and Inquisition. As for it being the 'only successful' part of the game....pre-reviews would prove you wrong. ACTUAL reviews, both consumer and media, will prove you wrong as well. While you may not be buying the game for its single player component, a VAST majority of people will be buying it for that very reason and I would bet whats in my bank account that the SP will be praised quite highly outside of a few visual bugs. You want to know why people are calling you a troll and whatnot? Its because you specifically chose the wording in the OP to piss people off. You were baiting them, very clearly too. It wouldn't have been hard for you to have just said "I wish they sold the MP component on its own". Its true you have every right to your opinion but at the least try putting more effort into it other than just "hurr durr, single player is literal trash". Anyway, while I do think it would be an interesting idea for them to sell the MP component on its own I don't think it would make very much sense when its designed to link into SP...even if that link isn't 'that' important. It would need to be reworked slightly in order to work and I just dont see them putting in that work when only a very small number of people think the way that you do.
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Post by n7vakarian on Mar 13, 2017 10:15:31 GMT
No. They're in the business of making story based character role playing games As for MP being tacked-on, that was certainly the case with ME3MP -- and it turned out to be better than most of the SP and far more replayable. ME:AMP is expected to be more... And the SP gameplay seems to be based off of it. Do you really think this MP of your precious new game is just a thrown-in afterthought? Again that's your opinion not fact
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Mar 13, 2017 10:19:44 GMT
Okay... I'll support this, I'll support YOU OP 😉 I AM an MP'r after all
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