The problem with the facial animations seem to be the eyes.
Mar 14, 2017 16:05:31 GMT
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Post by boyaki on Mar 14, 2017 16:05:31 GMT
So first and foremost animation are not great in andromeda, they are not worse than before but the low lightning level and overall better graphics do not help at all.
Then it is not fair to compare a game who has more than a thousand character and those with only a limited number. Moreover it is not fair to compare a premade character animation and one that has to work with a character creation model. The animation of main character (except for their eyes) is actually ok. They no longer stay stagnant with arm doing nothing while they speak.
This being said. The eyes are still the most important thing to animate, and in a game focusing on character design it is weird to see how bad that part is. The few npc we saw until now like serious overall animation, like that woman in the nexus guide saying "we are dying" but looking as a robot. We can see the limit of open world and the limit of Bioware. And that makes me thing that they are already not great at this and should not try to do an extensive world if they can't do human expression easily then they shouldn't do a thousand different npc as they claim.
Looking at other games : Witcher 3. If you play witcher 3 animation are really good (for an openworld game and the work it requires). Even standard npc do have expression and seems to be life like. But this came at a price. There are 3 kind of npc :
=> plot npc, with unique skin and good animation
=> classic npc for interaction, with not so unique skin (on some cutscene you could see 5 times the same guy on one shot) but it allows the dev to give them a bit love
=> classic npc without interaction.
Those are the npc walking in the street, common bandit and so on...you never see them in cutscene, because they don't get as much attention and are very mass effecesque looking if you what I mean.
Once again it is the proof that wanting to do too much result in little depth and diminish the pleasure of the player. That is one very comme scourge among the open world philosophy that somehow consider a big world should be stuff with as much content as possible. Resulting in map with 300 generic bandit camp.
Dragon age inquisition had good lightning and fewer npc in general. When you think about it you get cutscene mostly with your team and important npc. You never get to have a close up on merchant while you were talking to them. This allow the team to focus on those particular characters. In vast npc filled room you start seing clones without expression, hopefully most of them wear helmet and masks. They dealt with that issue better.
Then it is not fair to compare a game who has more than a thousand character and those with only a limited number. Moreover it is not fair to compare a premade character animation and one that has to work with a character creation model. The animation of main character (except for their eyes) is actually ok. They no longer stay stagnant with arm doing nothing while they speak.
This being said. The eyes are still the most important thing to animate, and in a game focusing on character design it is weird to see how bad that part is. The few npc we saw until now like serious overall animation, like that woman in the nexus guide saying "we are dying" but looking as a robot. We can see the limit of open world and the limit of Bioware. And that makes me thing that they are already not great at this and should not try to do an extensive world if they can't do human expression easily then they shouldn't do a thousand different npc as they claim.
Looking at other games : Witcher 3. If you play witcher 3 animation are really good (for an openworld game and the work it requires). Even standard npc do have expression and seems to be life like. But this came at a price. There are 3 kind of npc :
=> plot npc, with unique skin and good animation
=> classic npc for interaction, with not so unique skin (on some cutscene you could see 5 times the same guy on one shot) but it allows the dev to give them a bit love
=> classic npc without interaction.
Those are the npc walking in the street, common bandit and so on...you never see them in cutscene, because they don't get as much attention and are very mass effecesque looking if you what I mean.
Once again it is the proof that wanting to do too much result in little depth and diminish the pleasure of the player. That is one very comme scourge among the open world philosophy that somehow consider a big world should be stuff with as much content as possible. Resulting in map with 300 generic bandit camp.
Dragon age inquisition had good lightning and fewer npc in general. When you think about it you get cutscene mostly with your team and important npc. You never get to have a close up on merchant while you were talking to them. This allow the team to focus on those particular characters. In vast npc filled room you start seing clones without expression, hopefully most of them wear helmet and masks. They dealt with that issue better.
