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Mar 17, 2017 4:18:35 GMT Steelcan said:

Honestly I think the biggest problem is that game critics cut BioWare in general, and ME in particular, too much slack.

Were you to go solely by reviews you'd think ME3 was a perfect game with a slightly controversial ending

And on the flip side we have gamers who will raze bioware over littlest things. You'd think going through the comments that me a is an awful game with no redeeming qualities

Which is why I'm mostly baffled. The streamers I've seen casting ME:A have been enjoying the hell out of the game, both campaign and multiplayer.

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Post by sageoflife on Mar 17, 2017 4:27:24 GMT

Yes. Now stop yelling.

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Mar 17, 2017 4:14:28 GMT rahavan said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:09:09 GMT ryerye17 said:

Inquisition had the same reception on Early Access, tbh.
Just take it with a grain of salt.

I remember when they first showed us skyhold on stream and everyone was freaking out about the drum music constantly playing. It turned out it was a bug and the way the dev said that made it sound like he was dealing with a bunch of annoying little ~~shits~~ children. And some people wonder why the old forums were shutdown :rollseyes:

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And David Gaider was more...sarcastic than Ian.
Remember the whole the Inquisitor's ONLY casual outfit is a potato sack?

And people were like how hard is it to include casual customization, causing Gaider to snap and be like, "Oh, yeah, and pray, where should we put the resources for this?"

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Mar 17, 2017 4:28:05 GMT dutchsghost7 said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:09:09 GMT ryerye17 said:

Inquisition had the same reception on Early Access, tbh.
Just take it with a grain of salt.

Inquisition wasn't a good game.

I beg to differ.

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Mar 17, 2017 4:26:35 GMT dutchsghost7 said:

Mar 17, 2017 3:38:13 GMT Vikingblitz92 said:

Ive watched most of the ea access gameplay and the game looks good. Its not perfect but what is? Yet still people seem to irationally crap on it. Is it just overly high expectations? Nestalgia for the old games?

Mechanics are nice it's just the writing is terribly sloppy, bad and extremely CONTRIVED.

Plus you get less dialogue options in this game apart from stupid info dumps.

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Post by linksocarina on Mar 17, 2017 4:31:15 GMT

And on the flip side we have gamers who will raze bioware over littlest things. You'd think going through the comments that me a is an awful game with no redeeming qualities

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Haven't they been hearing it for years now?

I think it's a bit disengenuous to say they havent, hence the changes to their games and the taking of feed back into everything via over correction.

Hell, Frazier is on this forum collecting feedback now hopefully to fix the games glaring flaws.

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Post by Steelcan on Mar 17, 2017 4:33:22 GMT

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Haven't they been hearing it for years now?

I think it's a bit disengenuous to say they havent, hence the changes to their games and the taking of feed back into everything via over correction.

Hell, Frazier is on this forum collecting feedback now hopefully to fix the games glaring flaws.

Oh I'm sure they hear it, they just don't listen

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Post by swagmaster97 on Mar 17, 2017 4:33:59 GMT

And on the flip side we have gamers who will raze bioware over littlest things. You'd think going through the comments that me a is an awful game with no redeeming qualities

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

This is true. Future projects can benefit from negative feedback, or else BioWare will never grow and improve as a studio.

However the current vitriol circulating Twitter & Reddit seems a tad... excessive?

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Post by rahavan on Mar 17, 2017 4:34:27 GMT

And on the flip side we have gamers who will raze bioware over littlest things. You'd think going through the comments that me a is an awful game with no redeeming qualities

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Good thing they're asking for feedback on the forums here. From what I've seen of the feedback most of it has been well written which is what bioware needs more than ZOMG ANIMATIONS SUX WORST GME EV3R FK EA!11!!!

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Mar 17, 2017 4:30:53 GMT Steelcan said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:26:35 GMT dutchsghost7 said:

Mechanics are nice it's just the writing is terribly sloppy, bad and extremely CONTRIVED.

Plus you get less dialogue options in this game apart from stupid info dumps.

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Mar 17, 2017 4:33:59 GMT swagmaster97 said:

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

This is true. Future projects can benefit from negative feedback, or else BioWare will never grow and improve as a studio.

However the current vitriol circulating Twitter & Reddit seems a tad... excessive?

Then they shouldn't release half finished games

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Post by Steelcan on Mar 17, 2017 4:36:47 GMT

Mar 17, 2017 4:34:27 GMT rahavan said:

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Good thing they're asking for feedback on the forums here. From what I've seen of the feedback most of it has been well written which is what bioware needs more than ZOMG ANIMATIONS SUX WORST GME EV3R FK EA!11!!!

I'll believe they're actually listening and taking it into account when I see it

They did shut down their official forums after all

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Mar 17, 2017 4:33:22 GMT Steelcan said:

Haven't they been hearing it for years now?

I think it's a bit disengenuous to say they havent, hence the changes to their games and the taking of feed back into everything via over correction.

Hell, Frazier is on this forum collecting feedback now hopefully to fix the games glaring flaws.

Oh I'm sure they hear it, they just don't listen

That part I also don't buy either. I think they listen too much.

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Mar 17, 2017 4:36:59 GMT linksocarina said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:33:22 GMT Steelcan said:

Oh I'm sure they hear it, they just don't listen

That part I also don't buy either. I think they listen too much.

looking at the first glimpse of Eos I just can't agree

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Mar 17, 2017 4:34:27 GMT rahavan said:

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Good thing they're asking for feedback on the forums here. From what I've seen of the feedback most of it has been well written which is what bioware needs more than ZOMG ANIMATIONS SUX WORST GME EV3R FK EA!11!!!

Thanks for making me laugh (definitely need it after a day like this). You basically summed up Mass Effects Reddit page. I too have seen mostly positive player reviews here and surprisingly on the Reddit. :-D

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Mar 17, 2017 4:35:32 GMT Steelcan said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:33:59 GMT swagmaster97 said:

This is true. Future projects can benefit from negative feedback, or else BioWare will never grow and improve as a studio.

However the current vitriol circulating Twitter & Reddit seems a tad... excessive?

Then they shouldn't release half finished games

The game has bugs, not surprising. But people already saying it's the worst game of 2017.

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Post by rahavan on Mar 17, 2017 4:50:19 GMT

Mar 17, 2017 4:44:51 GMT swagmaster97 said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:34:27 GMT rahavan said:

Good thing they're asking for feedback on the forums here. From what I've seen of the feedback most of it has been well written which is what bioware needs more than ZOMG ANIMATIONS SUX WORST GME EV3R FK EA!11!!!

Thanks for making me laugh (definitely need it after a day like this). You basically summed up Mass Effects Reddit page. I too have seen mostly positive player reviews here and surprisingly on the Reddit. :-D

Glad to make your day

Also I'm proud to sum up reddit users when I have looked at reddit in over two years, really making strides in their community it seems.

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Post by malgus on Mar 17, 2017 4:51:24 GMT

true, but I think BioWare needs to hear the negative feedback more than the positive

Haven't they been hearing it for years now?

I think it's a bit disengenuous to say they havent, hence the changes to their games and the taking of feed back into everything via over correction.

Hell, Frazier is on this forum collecting feedback now hopefully to fix the games glaring flaws.

For his own sanity, I would suggest Ian to not go over here for the next 2 weeks. Coming here is quite brave of him.

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Post by Steelcan on Mar 17, 2017 4:52:11 GMT

Mar 17, 2017 4:49:12 GMT smilesja said:

Mar 17, 2017 4:35:32 GMT Steelcan said:

Then they shouldn't release half finished games

The game has bugs, not surprising. But people already saying it's the worst game of 2017.

Of course its far too early for that and we need to see what post launch support looks like.

That said, bugs/= shoddily done animation, its also the larger principle that worries me. If they couldn't be bothered to ensure the characters' eyes don't go chameleon on us it doesn't bode well for more subtle aspects of the game.

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