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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 17, 2017 21:01:33 GMT
No, AP had 4 dialogue options all the time, it also had the most stupid AI I have ever seen in a game, plus MEA graphics is not that bad. I liked how most characters look in AP, I loved Mina (I hope I remember her name correctly lol) Ah and yeah, AP was also very buggy. You liked Mina? I shot her the second I learned she betrayed me. Kept Darcy alive, sailed off into the sunset with Scarlet.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Mar 17, 2017 21:05:58 GMT
AP was a rough diamond; but at least it was well elaborated, worked as a RPG despite its many flaws. MEA feels way more sloppy.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 17, 2017 21:12:09 GMT
No, AP had 4 dialogue options all the time, it also had the most stupid AI I have ever seen in a game, plus MEA graphics is not that bad. I liked how most characters look in AP, I loved Mina (I hope I remember her name correctly lol) Ah and yeah, AP was also very buggy. You liked Mina? I shot her the second I learned she betrayed me. Kept Darcy alive, sailed off into the sunset with Scarlet. But... scarlet also betrays you. :S SIE is the only friend.
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Post by empirex on Mar 17, 2017 21:22:11 GMT
If Andromeda is undone, it'll be because of hate for Bioware/EA, not for the game. The game is great. As with all Bioware games, it has flaws. But aside from some derpy animations and minor gripes, I'm loving the game. I don't get the fixation on small flaws. I'm never a fan of deflecting valid criticism (and there are plenty) but I found a lot of anger against Bioware games since DA2 has been a mixture of overreaction and very personal hatred. It's like watching an individual rage against EVERY SINGLE THING his or her ex did... It's clear that Bioware isn't the company they loved before so why are you spending so much energy in hating them? Move on. I did that for Dragon Age. I did that for Rare games. I did that for Halo. If Bioware games ain't for you, then congrats! You saves some hard-earned cash. Move on.
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Post by jivedj on Mar 17, 2017 21:51:55 GMT
God I loved Alpha Protocol... not gonna lie, the hawaiian shirt and tramp beard is half the reason I'm in love with AP. Seriously though, I think it goes to show how good storytelling and characters can overcome technical issues for a lot of people. I wish AP is revived one day.
And this is why DAI was a fail for me (except Tresspasser). It was technically proficient for the most part, but some very odd design and player quality of life decisions, coupled with lack of emphasis on proper story and character devlopment killed it for me. And the total lack of any detailed attention to side narrative put the nail in the coffin. I don't play BW games for an OCD collecathon, and I sincerely hope that MEA hasn't followed the same formula. It's a deal breaker for me.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 17, 2017 21:59:13 GMT
Alpha Protocol is an unpolished gem, good game.
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Post by armass81 on Mar 17, 2017 22:02:44 GMT
AP was a rough diamond; but at least it was well elaborated, worked as a RPG despite its many flaws. MEA feels way more sloppy. Okay i cant take you seriously anymore, if you were serious.
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Post by wolfsite on Mar 17, 2017 22:10:18 GMT
Now I have to install my copy of Alpha Protocol and play again...... but Andromeda........ DAMN IT!.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 17, 2017 22:15:42 GMT
A great game with fun gameplay and good story that is undone by outdated graphics and an reviewers that was expecting something else? Alpha protocol is the game i've played the most iin my life. 14 playthrough and i've finished them all... So i' ok with this saying
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Post by llandwynwyn on Mar 17, 2017 22:18:18 GMT
AP was a rough diamond; but at least it was well elaborated, worked as a RPG despite its many flaws. MEA feels way more sloppy. Okay i cant take you seriously anymore, if you were serious. Let me help you on that: block me. Have a nice day!
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Post by wolfsite on Mar 17, 2017 22:44:10 GMT
I caved and re-installed the game on my PC (I got a physical copy which I bought Day 1)
Took a few minutes to find a site with an updated download link for the 1.1 patch.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 17, 2017 22:52:33 GMT
Of all the things that were praised about Alpha Protocol, gameplay was not one of those things.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 17, 2017 22:56:07 GMT
You liked Mina? I shot her the second I learned she betrayed me. Kept Darcy alive, sailed off into the sunset with Scarlet. But... scarlet also betrays you. :S SIE is the only friend. Scarlet has shot me more than once
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Post by Iakus on Mar 17, 2017 22:57:54 GMT
You liked Mina? I shot her the second I learned she betrayed me. Kept Darcy alive, sailed off into the sunset with Scarlet. But... scarlet also betrays you. :S SIE is the only friend. Don't forget Steven. He's not like Wen. So sir, not like Wen at all...
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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 17, 2017 23:33:04 GMT
The gameplay in AP is good. It is not a shooter. If you try and play it as a shooter you will have a bad time. Play it stealth and pistol and the game and its mechanics are great. The game is an RPG not a shooter. Your accuracy is based on skill points not your ability to point the sights on an enemy.
Edit: Also very glad to see I inspired people to go back and play AP! One of my fav games ever. Was so sad about how much critics and gamers craped all over it.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 17, 2017 23:59:27 GMT
The gameplay in AP is good. It is not a shooter. If you try and play it as a shooter you will have a bad time. Play it stealth and pistol and the game and its mechanics are great. The game is an RPG not a shooter. Your accuracy is based on skill points not your ability to point the sights on an enemy. Edit: Also very glad to see I inspired people to go back and play AP! One of my fav games ever. Was so sad about how much critics and gamers craped all over it. Best flirting scene on a plane ever!
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Post by boyaki on Mar 18, 2017 0:35:03 GMT
If Andromeda is undone, it'll be because of hate for Bioware/EA, not for the game. The game is great. As with all Bioware games, it has flaws. But aside from some derpy animations and minor gripes, I'm loving the game. I don't get the fixation on small flaws. I'm never a fan of deflecting valid criticism (and there are plenty) but I found a lot of anger against Bioware games since DA2 has been a mixture of overreaction and very personal hatred. It's like watching an individual rage against EVERY SINGLE THING his or her ex did... It's clear that Bioware isn't the company they loved before so why are you spending so much energy in hating them? Move on. I did that for Dragon Age. I did that for Rare games. I did that for Halo. If Bioware games ain't for you, then congrats! You saves some hard-earned cash. Move on. After I'd seen a lot of comment claiming that ME;A should somehow apologize for ME3 ending, I would say that valid criticism is not so common. And even when they are valid critism those are blown out of proportion. I mean we know the colonial official has no animation at all and it is extremly disturbing, but after seen tens of video showing this again and again it becomes old quickly. There is probably something else to do in the game than talking to one particular npc.
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Post by LilTIM on Mar 18, 2017 1:13:57 GMT
Alpha Protocol is one of those few modern rpgs where the devs had the courage to give the player some agency, creating different paths. I'd consider Witcher 2 divergent paths to also count there.
I haven't played AP in years, but i still remember all the fuss with the different characters, i think its one one of the best crpg games.
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 18, 2017 1:18:17 GMT
You liked Mina? I shot her the second I learned she betrayed me. Kept Darcy alive, sailed off into the sunset with Scarlet. But... scarlet also betrays you. :S SIE is the only friend. She won't if you have a higher influence with her, or if you fight against Westridge (which I do.) Plus, I start with SIE. I just dump her for Scarlet.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 18, 2017 1:23:46 GMT
The main complaints towards alpha protocol was it's gameplay, which was complete crap. Don't get me wrong absolutely love the game for it's story, characters, and choices, but gameplay was the real reason why it was never received well. I really wish that alpha protocol was given another chance though for a sequel. I still linger on hopes that a remake would be done sometime in my life lol. media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66ibf7uDj1qk12n6.gif
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Post by kino on Mar 18, 2017 2:39:22 GMT
I think this boss fight is mandatory for Alpha Protocol threads Whoo! Autograph! Can't completely hate a game that has the absolute cajones to use "Turn Up the Radio" for a boss fight.
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 18, 2017 2:42:19 GMT
Alpha Protocol is trash, even Mr Chris Avellone couldn't save it. Truly Obsidian's lowest point.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 18, 2017 3:23:14 GMT
I kinda had an epiphany with all this Alpha Protocol talk. I fucking love janky-ass AAA releases! This gives me more hope of enjoying MEA in the end. ME1 is in many ways my favorite original Mass Effect game and in no small part due to just how unabashedly it featured barren environments with repeated assets just to deliver quests and atmosphere. I loved AP because it has a smart plot with some really silly humor here and there and great dialogue mechanics and I fucking loved Deadly Premonition which is one of the craziest things to ever be a thing in gaming.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 18, 2017 3:27:01 GMT
If anyone is depressed or crying over how disappointing Andromeda is when they've finished it, I suggest you get this and Zelda and you'll forget everything about it. Alpha Protocol is like 8-10 hours long but the branching paths are awesome and while it can appear unappealing the characters are rather deep. I really, really want the whole world to give AP a chance and brush aside the bad gunplay. Yeah, I've been curious about that game, and I'll admit that seeing the actual combat in videos has been a major deterrent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 3:58:13 GMT
If Andromeda is undone, it'll be because of hate for Bioware/EA, not for the game. The game is great. As with all Bioware games, it has flaws. But aside from some derpy animations and minor gripes, I'm loving the game. I don't get the fixation on small flaws. This. If bioware had released the witcher 3 the internet right now would be full of videos of ZOMG no character creator at all Voice actor is astrocious geralt sounds almost emotionless (hes supposed to) Horse constantly gets stuck cancelling pre-order Combat is shit its more like geralt does ballet But it isn't made by BioWare so was judged on the gaming experience as a whole and justifiably loved by most and even those who don't like the style acknowledge its a good game. While it is true that gamers are often willing to cut other developers a lot more slack than they give Bioware, Bioware itself is to blame for any lingering ill-will towards it. It is the result of multiple development misfires (Dragon Age 2, ME3's endings, DA:I being polarizing) and the company's abysmal public relations.
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