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Post by Tawneys Bimorph on Mar 19, 2017 13:47:33 GMT
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So Manveer Heir, the racist who worked in Bioware is no longer working there. I think that this was most likely mundane post-project downsizing, especially since Heir was not a core member of the team. Having said that, Good Riddance Manveer...
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Post by 10k on Mar 19, 2017 13:52:07 GMT
Finally the bigoted piece of trash is out the door.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 19, 2017 13:52:19 GMT
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Post by vonuber on Mar 19, 2017 13:54:50 GMT
Seriously? Who gives a fuck! Get a bloody life.
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 19, 2017 13:55:58 GMT
Yeah this will probably get locked as well. But racism of any kind should be condemned and I'm glad to see him gone.
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Post by urkibalurki on Mar 19, 2017 13:58:34 GMT
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 19, 2017 14:01:11 GMT
In before lock
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 14:04:32 GMT
No sympathy (if let go of course but probably went elsewhere).
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 19, 2017 14:11:37 GMT
He was never really fully part of Bioware anyway. He was always a contractor and his contract expired a while ago with neither party having a desire to extend the contract.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 19, 2017 14:17:31 GMT
He was never really fully part of Bioware anyway. He was always a contractor and his contract expired a while ago with neither party having a desire to extend the contract. You wouldn't know it from the way so-called News Media listed him as a 'key' and 'lead' designer for MEA. Which I thought was hilarious, as I'd never heard of him before this whole shitstorm happened.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 19, 2017 14:27:05 GMT
Hmmm, no fights yet? ok, it is at least topical news, so let's see where this goes, though a lock is 'on standby' if things overheat. To the honest, all the thread locking was mostly to do with the fact that there were fights, that the threads rarely went anywhere and there was nothing new to say. Personally I find it unreasonable to tar the whole of BioWare for racism, particularly given their record supporting diversity. Similarly, the 'alternative' fact that he single-handedly wrote and designed the game is foolish. I'd feel a twinge of sympathy if he didn't seem to appear to actually invite the hate. This is from twitter yesterday: King Curry Thunder @manveerheir 1h I guess this is a good time to mention I left a month ago, as soon as we finished, & have started an indie studio doing amazing things
King Curry Thunder @manveerheir 1h And if you think people mad at me now... oh boy just you waaaaaitPersonally, I think this is a good outcome for BioWare, they should be judged for the games, not any personal views of specific employees. This was a really good video on the subject, filmed before it was known that Manveer had gone.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 19, 2017 14:30:39 GMT
Never even heard of the guy until yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 14:41:29 GMT
Some good news for once.
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Post by sky on Mar 19, 2017 14:49:02 GMT
Why is this so important anyways? From what I've seen, this guy gets his kicks from peoples reactions off his twitter. I wouldn't have even heard of this guy until people like OP kept circulating his name. Keep giving him attention though, and one day his name will be as known as Mac Walters and Casey Hudson.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 19, 2017 14:53:54 GMT
He was never really fully part of Bioware anyway. He was always a contractor and his contract expired a while ago with neither party having a desire to extend the contract. You wouldn't know it from the way so-called News Media listed him as a 'key' and 'lead' designer for MEA. Which I thought was hilarious, as I'd never heard of him before this whole shitstorm happened. Yeah, he was one of the few Gameplay Designer. While important position, far from leadership position. Also he had very little influence to do story and characters anyway. So his misguided political views, to say at the very least, couldn't have affected ME:A.
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Post by yeegrek on Mar 19, 2017 15:02:43 GMT
Why is this so important anyways? From what I've seen, this guy gets his kicks from peoples reactions off his twitter. I wouldn't have even heard of this guy until people like OP kept circulating his name. Keep giving him attention though, and one day his name will be as known as Mac Walters and Casey Hudson. Seriously. People like MH feed off attention, which actually makes it kind of ironic that fellow attention wh*re Milo (among the other types of wh*re he is) is the one driving so much traffic to his twitter feed. The only power Manveer has is the power people give him.
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Post by pdusen on Mar 19, 2017 15:11:59 GMT
Finally we no longer will see any threads about this perfect nobody. Oh my sweet summer child.
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Post by midasear on Mar 19, 2017 15:14:05 GMT
Why is this so important anyways? From what I've seen, this guy gets his kicks from peoples reactions off his twitter. This. Manveer is a garden-variety internet troll. He's not even a very clever troll. Twitter just happens to provide an awesome technological platform for a relatively mediocre troll to thrive if he finds a sufficiently hypersensitive target audience. I get why people allow themselves to be worked up into a froth over Bioware's long time employment of Manveer, under the assumption that this meant Bioware and/or EA were indifferent to his antics, or even approved. "Why don't they fire him?" But me? I have no idea what its like for a corporate entity to fire someone in Quebec. Most places in the world do not have true at-will employment, especially for large employers. You have to be able to justify the reasons, drawn from a fairly narrow list, that you let an employee go in front of a judge or employment tribunal if you don't want to get socked with a nasty legal judgment. I assume Quebec is one of those place. I suspect EA/Bioware is the biggest victim of Manveer's trolling. They may have even been his real target.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 19, 2017 15:23:03 GMT
Why is this so important anyways? From what I've seen, this guy gets his kicks from peoples reactions off his twitter. I wouldn't have even heard of this guy until people like OP kept circulating his name. Keep giving him attention though, and one day his name will be as known as Mac Walters and Casey Hudson. Exactly all Heir is a attention seeking troll trying to get a rise out of people. He's gone and now can we please move on with our lives?
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 19, 2017 15:23:49 GMT
... I have no idea what its like for a corporate entity to fire someone in Quebec. Most places in the world do not have true at-will employment, especially for large employers. You have to be able to justify the reasons, drawn from a fairly narrow list, that you let an employee go in front of a judge or employment tribunal if you don't want to get socked with a nasty legal judgment. I assume Quebec is one of those place. ... This.
Here's an article on Canadian employment law (which seems much closer to European style than American 'at will'): My favorite excerpt was: "The labour arbitrator appointed to hear the case held that despite the foreman’s actions of setting his co-worker on fire, Dryco did not have sufficient cause for dismissal and Dryco was ordered to reinstate the foreman back to work." I recommend drinking strong coffee before opening the link. Firing your employee for good reason may be more costly than you thinkglobalnews.ca/news/806651/firing-your-employee-for-good-reason-may-be-more-costly-than-you-think/
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 19, 2017 15:26:30 GMT
Why is this so important anyways? From what I've seen, this guy gets his kicks from peoples reactions off his twitter. I wouldn't have even heard of this guy until people like OP kept circulating his name. Keep giving him attention though, and one day his name will be as known as Mac Walters and Casey Hudson. Exactly all Heir is a attention seeking troll trying to get a rise out of people. He's gone and now can we please move on with our lives? Move on with our lives? I won't have this blasphemous talk within these walls.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 19, 2017 15:28:15 GMT
Exactly all Heir is a attention seeking troll trying to get a rise out of people. He's gone and now can we please move on with our lives? Move on with our lives? I won't have this blasphemous talk within these walls. I speak blasphemous fluently.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 19, 2017 15:31:49 GMT
Manveir Heir? Not anymore, he ain't.
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Post by 10k on Mar 19, 2017 15:37:39 GMT
That's all valid, and I'd agree with it. But the thing is, you do have to ask yourself what would have happened if an employee was to tweet out the exact tweets he did, only replacing every "white" with practically any other group, and especially something like: "blacks", "gays", "Muslims", etc.
Something tells me that the shitstorm would have been apocalyptic, and that Bioware wouldn't have been as forgiving. Racism should be treated with the same disdain, no matter which group it is directed at.
You're spot on. I'm not even white and found this just appalling. It's sad that society has such a double standard, and the notion that darker skinned people can't be racist is idiotic. No doubt if he was speaking about another group besides white people the community and BW in general would be up in arms. But because he was talking about the "white man" everything is okay and what he said doesn't matter
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