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Post by tziwen on Mar 20, 2017 10:19:44 GMT
What denial? Have you actually looked at the reviews? The only thing they can agree on is that the technical issues are a noticeable flaw. Otherwise none of them can agree on anything. Not the writing, not the characters, not the game world, not the combat. Not a goddamn thing. So there's nothing to deny. Also 75% is not even remotely a bad score or some death knell for the company. The writing is nearly full consensus of bad, dude... at least on the reviews I've been reading and I've read plenty of them already. And they are pretty universal on the combat too, although thankfully the consensus for this is that it is a good one. They are not pictured as bad but as "not as good as MET's" Not really the same
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 20, 2017 10:20:09 GMT
What denial? Have you actually looked at the reviews? The only thing they can agree on is that the technical issues are a noticeable flaw. Otherwise none of them can agree on anything. Not the writing, not the characters, not the game world, not the combat. Not a goddamn thing. So there's nothing to deny. Also 75% is not even remotely a bad score or some death knell for the company. The writing is nearly full consensus of bad, dude... at least on the reviews I've been reading and I've read plenty of them already. And they are pretty universal on the combat too, although thankfully the consensus for this is that it is a good one. I'm largely enjoying the writing so far (trial+videos). It is only inconsistent. Then beyond that, personally, minor complaints. But delivery of the lines can really suck because my god those animations.
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:23:21 GMT
What denial? Have you actually looked at the reviews? The only thing they can agree on is that the technical issues are a noticeable flaw. Otherwise none of them can agree on anything. Not the writing, not the characters, not the game world, not the combat. Not a goddamn thing. So there's nothing to deny. Also 75% is not even remotely a bad score or some death knell for the company. The writing is nearly full consensus of bad, dude... at least on the reviews I've been reading and I've read plenty of them already. And they are pretty universal on the combat too, although thankfully the consensus for this is that it is a good one. But they're not. Compare Forbes to Gamespot. Compare PC Gamer to Eurogamer. Night and day. The only consensus is either "technical issues are a thing" or "we can't agree on shit."
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 20, 2017 10:24:58 GMT
I agree except that even back in the day i don't believe ME1 deserves his 91%. And many people would argue that ME3 doesn't deserve its 93% It's 78 now on PC. It's not like it's getting a bad score but by Mass Effect standards it's not the score it should be getting. Though to be honest these critic scores don't necessarily mean crap when it comes to determining personal enjoyment. For all I know this could end up being my favorite one yet. Since a factor that a reviewer has to account for could be a nonfactor to any individual player. For instance I don't honestly give a crap about facial animations (I used to play a lot of oblivion) but a reviewer has to factor all aspects in.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on Mar 20, 2017 10:33:02 GMT
I doubt this game is trying to overthrow the first trilogy. I doesn't need to. It's a new start. OK, the scores are not in the 9's or 10's, but it's the start of a new series, and I'm sure it's going to get better overtime. Yeah it's not up there with the other 3, but why should it be. I was not expecting it to be. All I want is a Mass Effect game that is at the very least, good. It doesn't have to be great. That remains to be seen. All it has to be is a good addition to the franchise.
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Post by retro on Mar 20, 2017 10:36:54 GMT
*contains visual spoilers*
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:37:21 GMT
I don't this game is trying to overthrow the first trilogy. I doesn't need to. It's a new start. OK, the scores are not in the 9's or 10's, but it's the start of a new series, and I'm sure it's going to get better overtime. Yeah it's not up there with the other 3, but why should it be. I was not expecting it to be. All I want is a Mass Effect game that is at the very least, good. It doesn't have to be great. That remains to be seen. All it has to be is a good addition to the franchise. It's funny. Half the people who are fans seem to think is HAS to do at least as good as ME1 or it's a total garbage.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 20, 2017 10:38:43 GMT
Keep the shitstorm in your pants then. Because based in the scores the game is good. This post made me spill my morning, literal LOL!
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Post by guanxi on Mar 20, 2017 10:40:44 GMT
BioWare should hire me as a consultant. I'm brilliant: Here's my exciting 2 step plan to fixing the ME: Andromeda series:
1. Bring back Patrick Weekes 2. Bring back Dombrow
That is all. 3 million dollars please.
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Post by Fluffy on Mar 20, 2017 10:40:50 GMT
Alright so.. looking at metacritic. Lowest score being 5/10 and the highest being 9.5/10 it is really crazy how different peoples opinions can be of the same game. Some of the reviewers praise the story and character writing, putting it as one of the games strong points and others dislike the writing putting it as a weakness. So I don't think saying the ratings are 6-8/10 is completely accurate because it makes it seem like the game is getting 7/10s accross the board as a mediocre game. It is as of right now on the PC page 7.8/10 with 9 positive reviews and 1 mixed which is bringing down the score all by its lonesome. Most reviews are landing on average at 8/10 if you ignore the single 5.5/10 and the 9/10. Why would he give it a 5.5? From what I am reading he thinks the characters are ugly and that the game is riddled with bugs and techincal issues. Neither of these are clear to me, I don't think all characters are unattractive and wouldn't mind even if they were since I am not looking for a beauty contest. And secondly I didn't encounter a single bug during my 10-hour trial on PC. We shall see today when I get my hands on the rest of the game but looking at other reviews they don't seem to be game-breaking to the extent of giving the game a 5.5. Then he goes on to saying that "Mass Effect: Andromeda feels small and boring. It works like the series always has; you go around the galaxy, find characters, and take on missions. What that really comes down to is following a waypoint, talking to someone or fighting someone, and then getting a new one to follow." ... *slowly claps* congratulations that is the usual mechanics of video games. He then ends the review by saying "Worst of all, it’s going to disappoint fans of the Mass Effect series." As if we played the Mass Effect games for the completely bug-free parade/harem of models. And he literally just wrote that it works THE SAME as the original series? How can he say that at the same time as he is saying that it will disappoint the fans of said series?
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Post by vanillah on Mar 20, 2017 10:41:58 GMT
Start of new series ??? Top LUL! EA gonna take ME behind the barn and shoot it.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 20, 2017 10:42:26 GMT
Now we know why the BSN was nuked. Damage control... I'll admit that thought briefly flitted across my mind earlier. I wonder how things would be on BSN Prime now if we were still 'official BSN'?
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Post by vonuber on Mar 20, 2017 10:42:42 GMT
As a point of order, ME2 is certainly not as good as people think it is. I suspect that as it was the entry point for most, there's a lot of rose tinted glasses going on.
Anyway, I've enjoyed what I've played so far, but yes it does have technical issues. Those can be patched however.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 10:43:45 GMT
Now we know why the BSN was nuked. Damage control... I'll admit that thought briefly flitted across my mind earlier. I wonder how things would be on BSN Prime now if we were still 'official BSN'? The Meltdown would be on a scale not seen since ME3's ending.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 20, 2017 10:43:47 GMT
Alright so.. looking at metacritic. Lowest score being 5/10 and the highest being 9.5/10 it is really crazy how different peoples opinions can be of the same game. Some of the reviewers praise the story and character writing, putting it as one of the games strong points and others dislike the writing putting it as a weakness. So I do not think saying the ratings are 6-8/10 is really correct because it makes it seem like the game is getting 7/10s accross the board as a mediocre game when it is as of now in the PC page 7.8/10 with 10 positive reviews and 1 mixed which is bringing down the score all by its lonesome. Most reviews are landing on average at 8/10 if you ignore the single 5.5/10 and the 9/10. Why would he give it a 5.5? From what I am reading he thinks the characters are ugly and that the game is riddled with bugs and techincal issues. Neither of these are clear to me, I do not think all characters are unattractive and don't mind even if they were since I am not looking for a beauty contest. And secondly I didn't encounter a single bug during my 10-hour trial on PC. We shall see today when I get my hands on the rest of the game. But looking at other reviews they don't seem to be game-breaking to the extent of giving the game a 5.5. Then he goes on to saying that "Mass Effect: Andromeda feels small and boring. It works like the series always has; you go around the galaxy, find characters, and take on missions. What that really comes down to is following a waypoint, talking to someone or fighting someone, and then getting a new one to follow." ...He then continues to end the review by saying "Worst of all, it’s going to disappoint fans of the Mass Effect series." as if we played the Mass Effect games for the completely bug-free parade/harem of models. And he literally just wrote that it works THE SAME as the original trilogy? How could that mean the same thing as disappointing the fans of said trilogy? I'm surprised. Somebody's wise on this forum
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on Mar 20, 2017 10:46:40 GMT
I don't this game is trying to overthrow the first trilogy. I doesn't need to. It's a new start. OK, the scores are not in the 9's or 10's, but it's the start of a new series, and I'm sure it's going to get better overtime. Yeah it's not up there with the other 3, but why should it be. I was not expecting it to be. All I want is a Mass Effect game that is at the very least, good. It doesn't have to be great. That remains to be seen. All it has to be is a good addition to the franchise. It's funny. Half the people who are fans seem to think is HAS to do at least as good as ME1 or it's a total garbage. Hey, I may love Mass Effect, and it may be my favorite game series, but I'm not spoiled. Besides, my first impression, and first Mass Effect game was ME2 back in 2010. I didn't play ME1 til later that year. And just because Mass Effect is my favorite game series, doesn't mean I think it's the best looking. It's one of the bes. In my opinion, to this day, the Uncharted series is the best looking game series I've played so far.
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Post by Reznore on Mar 20, 2017 10:46:59 GMT
I'll admit that thought briefly flitted across my mind earlier. I wonder how things would be on BSN Prime now if we were still 'official BSN'? Wait for it. Reviews are one thing.People aren't playing yet. And it seems it is on the buggy side. Prepare the giant board explaining this place is not directly related to Bioware, also I propose to hide the devs posting here under the carpet or something.
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:47:09 GMT
And now the game is up to 78% on Metacritic. Up from 75%, which was up from 73%
Dutch where are you I think you need to start putting that foot in your mouth. Also this is out of 10 critic reviews.
What was that about Metacritic scores don't go up?
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 20, 2017 10:50:34 GMT
This thing looks like it might be Mass Effect's DA2. 75 now with still potential to go up to upper 70s, and then count say Gamespot out and it'd be low 80s. But that's a more optimistic view. Realistically, at least also relatively speaking, yes, this is ME's 'DA2' of sorts. Might be, yes... where DA2 was lacking in the the gameplay department, MEA will lack on the technical and narrative side... but in general, reading all the reviews, it seams that BW let handle an A list game by a sub par team. Some of the problems will eventually be fixed, but others...
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Post by ravagingfish on Mar 20, 2017 10:50:55 GMT
BioWare should hire me as a consultant. I'm brilliant: Here's my exciting 2 step plan to fixing the ME: Andromeda series: 1. Bring back Patrick Weekes 2. Bring back Dombrow That is all. 3 million dollars please. As it turns out, Dombrow is one of the lead writers. We could always use Weekes, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 10:52:54 GMT
As a point of order, ME2 is certainly not as good as people think it is. I suspect that as it was the entry point for most, there's a lot of rose tinted glasses going on. Anyway, I've enjoyed what I've played so far, but yes it does have technical issues. Those can be patched however. I've always thought ME3 was better than ME2 despite the bad endings, but I know that's not a popular opinion. I'd rank the original games in descending order.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 20, 2017 10:54:33 GMT
As a point of order, ME2 is certainly not as good as people think it is. I suspect that as it was the entry point for most, there's a lot of rose tinted glasses going on. Anyway, I've enjoyed what I've played so far, but yes it does have technical issues. Those can be patched however. I've always thought ME3 was better than ME2 despite the bad endings, but I know that's not a popular opinion. I'd rank the original games in descending order. Not in all aspects, but I agree... on the technical side, ME3 was definitely the best, and it had the benefit to bring to a close most of the stories set up in ME1+2.
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Post by guanxi on Mar 20, 2017 10:56:24 GMT
BioWare should hire me as a consultant. I'm brilliant: Here's my exciting 2 step plan to fixing the ME: Andromeda series: 1. Bring back Patrick Weekes 2. Bring back Dombrow That is all. 3 million dollars please. As it turns out, Dombrow is one of the lead writers. We could always use Weekes, though. I wonder if he writing any characters like Drack, or as a lead writer probably the broader narrative strokes/key missions. I was very impressed with his contributions in ME3 and am excited to see him working on this IP again.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 20, 2017 10:56:36 GMT
I'll admit that thought briefly flitted across my mind earlier. I wonder how things would be on BSN Prime now if we were still 'official BSN'? Wait for it. Reviews are one thing.People aren't playing yet. And it seems it is on the buggy side. Prepare the giant board explaining this place is not directly related to Bioware, also I propose to hide the devs posting here under the carpet or something. Let's see what happens. Any devs that come here on their own time are protected, just like anyone else. Picking up on the clever point that Fluffy made, it could be that we're looking at a more polarising game, with a greater love > hate spread...
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Post by lezio on Mar 20, 2017 11:00:49 GMT
Why would anyone care about the opinion of the BIG reviewrs? They're the same people who defended Bioware's "artistic integrity" back when ME3 came out vecause they were on EA payroll
Hell, DA2 actually has 80+ on all of them, and we all know reviewrs don't look at they story to judge a title
I will simply watch the stream of a guy a trust when this game comes out, and decide on that whether or not to buy it
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