Character cards needed to fully level up your characters' skills...

around 10+
From what I see. It does 2 things.
It either level the character. Or The characters gain Extra Skill Points for gaining a new card of themselves.
Either format is fine and is not that annoying. At least these character cards "add stats" more so than "Colors"

If it's hard to get a N7 character fine with me. It's nothing to moan over though. Credits are again "easier" to get in shorter time.
Also again the "points" for automatic goodies for sure are still there so N7 Stuff will prob appear there. I have no idea why again we're pulling "I played longer" card when it means nothing to me. Anyways, It's all not a big deal day 1 anger over this stuff is "pointless"

Dude...there are SOOOO many cards now it becomes tedious.

Four words: Pistol Melee Enhancer X

Or Aasault Rifle Stock X.

Yea...they are real.

It's just a pointless grind to get something you should have when you initially get a character to level 20. I could understand it if they made it harder to get character cards and they gave you enough to do like a maxed out 66666 build not to just get 66653, although I didn't see Salarian Operative X anywhere in the pictures posted. It's going to be a pain in the ass for UR characters if they truely drop at an UR rate, and if that rate remains at the ME3 level.

I could agree but...I'm also in a neutral state.
I would suggest getting all the bronze teir soldiers to "see"
And honestly Equipment going to level X is fine to me...None of it is UR quality.
No the real question is what happens when you "max out" all the Gold/Silver/Bronze

Before we start up on the big train of it all "Play for like a week" and get True evidence.

I'm not arrogant etc. But we need data before we spout "OMG HOW DARE YOU"

It's not that hard really it isn't too hard to just get some hard evidence by earning up lower teir cards.

Also what proof is it that all "N7 Characters" are the same drop rate? In ME3 they were not the same drop rate and had fairly higher than N7 Guns.
We don't have "data" yet and I suggest waiting for it instead of flat beliefs of these "numbers"

I will experiment etc. but it'll take me 1-2 weeks cause the...friggin net code can be a hassle more so than ME3 ever was and I can't do solo runs yet.

Thank you. I just don't enjoy watching scandals form of how horrid something is before proof.
I'm working fairly bit on map exploits atm. "They seem to have been more careful" about Firebase White/Firebase Ghost ...though Ghost had 2 exploit rooms and only 1 got patched and became the Rocket Runner map. I'm gathering some data up but I don't like using a VPN at all. I'm a grinaholic so I'll get some data on my packs as I aim to max out my Bronze teir stuff and I'm already closing in on how to do silver effectively. I only completed 3 silver runs atm and failed a few due to..."PUG" errors and with iffy rubber banding -sigh- so close. But it looks and feels like they did make our money MUCH more pooling than original ME3.

Just gonna chime in here that in ME3MP even the "Ultra Rare" kits were popping up left and right as I maxed two separate manifests.

The term "Ultra Rare" is entirely relative, and an Ultra Rare Kit could still have a higher drop rate than an Ultra Rare weapon.

I have never gleaned one useful bit of information from a Prima "guide".

Oh wait, did you know that Sakura is "Capcom's teen scream"?  Thanks, Prima.

Trying to get a handle on these skill points, if I understand the above, in my case I have a kit at level 20 and three cards, he is a 6/1/6/4/4 build, I won't be able to get the last two skills to 6 unless I get the other 7 cards?

This is an absolutely retarded system.

Preface: I land squarely in the "truly hardcore" demographic, as much as it pains me to say it that way. I'm an unemployed college student, and even though the game doesn't interest me nearly as much as ME3MP did, Andromeda MP is really the only thing I have that I can play for more than an hour or so before losing interest. Put two and two together, and I've probably put more hours into it in the first two days than most people will have by the end of the week. I am not bragging about this, in fact it makes me a little uneasy, but those are the facts.

I've been grinding my ass off ever since the game unlocked for me Tuesday morning, and I've maxed out all my commons. Weapons, characters, mods, all of it. I've racked up about seven or eight Gold extractions now, and even with that substantial flow of credits, I still do not have any notable progress with unlocking Uncommon stuff. By my estimation, there are six Uncommon characters and ten Uncommon weapon mods. That's 160 cards without counting the myriad of Uncommon weapons, unlocked one at a time. Gold extractions award 50-55k depending on how many people make it out. This is enough to buy two of the Uncommon packs per match, sometimes three depending on how your change adds up.

Each Gold game takes around 25 minutes, or 18-20 if I'm playing with my friends. That works out to around six packs per hour of pugging, or just shy of eight while playing with a stacked team. If I split the difference and call it seven packs per hour, that works out to almost 23 hours of playtime just to unlock and max out those characters and weapon mods. This assumes that I'm diligent enough to stick to the progression model that makes the most sense (max commons > buy next pack up > max uncommons > etc). Again, that's 23 hours of Gold, or 60 matches, averaging something around 22-23min per match just to max Uncommon characters and weapon mods. If we add in all the Uncommon weapons, that total goes up to 250 cards, 36 hours, and 96 matches. Absolute insanity.

Now let's compare that to ME3. 11 Uncommon weapons, 6 Uncommon characters, and 10 Uncommon weapon mods. Pretty similar numbers to Andromeda, right? Well, in ME3, Uncommon weapon mods and characters cap out at Rank 5, which brings us to a total of 195 Uncommon cards. In ME3, the middle-tier pack also cost 20,000 Credits, but unlike MEA, a Gold extraction awards around 80,000 Credits. This means that instead of buying two packs per 20 minutes with some change left over, we can now buy twice that at four. Instead of buying 7 packs per hour, we can now buy 11. This reduces the total time needed to max out Uncommons to 18 hours, including weapons, or 48 matches.

"But wait!" you say, "ME3 had the Gear slot and that had a shitload of Uncommons in it!", and you'd be right. There's 15 Uncommon Gear items in ME3, and those cap out at Rank 5. That's 75 cards. Let's add that into our existing ME3 numbers and see how that changes things. Adding in all the Gear cards brings the grand total to 270 - more than MEA. Again, assuming we can buy 11 packs per hour, this brings us up to 26 hours to max Uncommons, or 70 matches. Now we're getting close to MEA territory, but it's still right around 30% fewer matches to unlock an extra 20 cards over what Andromeda has to offer for Uncommons.

See the problem here? The real kicker is that until you get your characters to around Rank 5 or 6, you are severely gimped compared to how they were in ME3. I don't know the exact numbers, but I want to say you're going to have on average 10 or 12 fewer skill points. When you're talking about Gold-level play, every single skill point matters while you're still unlocking weapons and mods and such, because you're not going to be able to fall back on your Eviscerator or Claymore with a maxed barrel mod and/or smart choke.

These numbers will go up exponentially as the rarity of the desired unlocks increases. God help anyone who wants to use Ultra-Rares.

And to top it all off, neither Armor-Piercing Ammo nor Warp Ammo, the absolute godsends for weak manifests, made the 600-year journey to Andromeda for whatever reason. I guess whoever was in charge of requisitions really fucking hated all the people going.

I'm going to need more if I'm going to get through this grind without shooting myself.