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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 20, 2017 22:19:33 GMT
John Dombrow - you who wrote Tuchanka, ME3 Garrus, and the Citadel DLC - you were the co-lead writer on this? You were the chosen one!!!!!1 It was said that you would destroy what Mac Walters did to Mass Effect, not join him! Citadel was not well written, in the slightest. It was 4th wall breaking cringe, cliche, and ridiculousness. It simply came out during a time when we accepted it for the sake of emotional closure. btw, this game went through 3 lead writers, at least. probably explains a lot.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 20, 2017 22:20:23 GMT
Nah, EA will push a ME battlefield with frostbite 4.0 from DICE, problem solved. I'd take a Battlefield: Mass Effect spinoff myself. Lots of potential there, and the combat in Andromeda is already solid enough to support it. As for the OP, I doubt it. Bioware survived DA2, it will survive this. EA isn't axing studios over one game anymore, else DICE would have fallen prey to its jaws after Hardline. Sadly they came to this mindset too late for poor Maxis...I miss The Sims...
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 20, 2017 22:23:00 GMT
This game is not going to be a resounding week one or week two success story, it's safe to say. We have to hope that EA is content to collect long term revenue. They didn't fund it like their primary blockbuster, if funding claims made here on the BSN are accurate ($40M). It was developed by a new team, more or less, while the vets were allocated elsewhere. Maybe EA has tempered expectations for the first ME following ME3? Only time will tell, I imagine. (If we heard anything too soon, it would likely be bad news, as Deus Ex fans experienced.)
In the meantime, let's hope they patch this thing together and get it running smoothly. Hopefully, we will enjoy it more than most critics.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:12 GMT
John Dombrow - you who wrote Tuchanka, ME3 Garrus, and the Citadel DLC - you were the co-lead writer on this? Citadel was not well written, in the slightest. It was 4th wall breaking cringe, cliche, and ridiculousness. It simply came out during a time when we accepted it for the sake of emotional closure. btw, this game went through 3 lead writers, at least. probably explains a lot. I wonder what percentage of fans liked Citadel because of the 4th wall breaking and ridiculousness. I always thought ME was a bit ridiculous anyway, so piling it on didn't bother me.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:03 GMT
This game is not going to be a resounding week one or week two success story, it's safe to say. We have to hope that EA is content to collect long term revenue. They didn't fund it like their primary blockbuster, if funding claims made here on the BSN are accurate ($40M). It was developed by a new team, more or less, while the vets were allocated elsewhere. Maybe EA has tempered expectations for the first ME following ME3? Only time will tell, I imagine. (If we heard anything too soon, it would likely be bad news, as Deus Ex fans experienced.) Hey, what was the TW3 budget supposed to be?
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 20, 2017 22:29:47 GMT
This game is not going to be a resounding week one or week two success story, it's safe to say. We have to hope that EA is content to collect long term revenue. They didn't fund it like their primary blockbuster, if funding claims made here on the BSN are accurate ($40M). It was developed by a new team, more or less, while the vets were allocated elsewhere. Maybe EA has tempered expectations for the first ME following ME3? Only time will tell, I imagine. (If we heard anything too soon, it would likely be bad news, as Deus Ex fans experienced.) Hey, what was the TW3 budget supposed to be? 81 million. Twice as much.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 20, 2017 22:31:59 GMT
Hell, maybe ME:A is DA2 all over again. That is, it's EA trying to see if a low-cost development model can be made to work.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 20, 2017 22:36:23 GMT
Hell, maybe ME:A is DA2 all over again. That is, it's EA trying to see if a low-cost development model can be made to work. That's assuming that 40$ million is accurate - and that's without taking into consideration all the other differences with development and financing. I do agree that in some respect it is DA2 again - MEA had a lot to live up to, just like DA2 (and DAI) did. In some respect it was a near-impossible task - it doesn't excuse things that could be worked on, but puts things into perspective.
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Post by ravenous on Mar 20, 2017 22:38:46 GMT
Citadel was not well written, in the slightest. It was 4th wall breaking cringe, cliche, and ridiculousness. It simply came out during a time when we accepted it for the sake of emotional closure. btw, this game went through 3 lead writers, at least. probably explains a lot. I wonder what percentage of fans liked Citadel because of the 4th wall breaking and ridiculousness. I always thought ME was a bit ridiculous anyway, so piling it on didn't bother me. don't know about anyone else but to me Citadel DLC was completely cringe worthy except for the party at the end which I liked, what I do when I play through the Citadel till the party is mute the volume shove the difficulty to narrative so I can just speed through everything including the dialogue
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 22:57:39 GMT
I wonder what percentage of fans liked Citadel because of the 4th wall breaking and ridiculousness. I always thought ME was a bit ridiculous anyway, so piling it on didn't bother me. don't know about anyone else but to me Citadel DLC was completely cringe worthy except for the party at the end which I liked, what I do when I play through the Citadel till the party is mute the volume shove the difficulty to narrative so I can just speed through everything including the dialogue Mass Effect has never played by the rules as we know them. If Bioware is good at one thing, is finding new ways to subvert lore. I don't know what their agenda is, but it has nothing to do with logic's best interests. That being said, I still love this series, and I honestly think, from the videos I've seen, from playthroughs, from romance scenes, from side missions, that this is the best Mass Effect to date. Please fans, play the game, and write your own reviews. If you like it, show Bioware your appreciation. I don't think this game deserves half the hate it's getting. This is not the trilogy, this is not Shepard's story anymore. We have moved on from that. Think of it as a new thing, a new franchise, it might even surprise you.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 20, 2017 23:11:20 GMT
I wonder what percentage of fans liked Citadel because of the 4th wall breaking and ridiculousness. I always thought ME was a bit ridiculous anyway, so piling it on didn't bother me. don't know about anyone else but to me Citadel DLC was completely cringe worthy except for the party at the end which I liked, what I do when I play through the Citadel till the party is mute the volume shove the difficulty to narrative so I can just speed through everything including the dialogue The party itself is just as guilty of the ridiculousness and 4th wall nonsense, the "Shepaaaaaaaarrrrrrddddd" "Wrex, Grunt." scene comes to mind. The entire thing is guilty of it by and large, but we all mostly overlooked it, because we wanted that emotional goodbye that the game denied us.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 20, 2017 23:17:16 GMT
Mass Effect 3 was the death knell. "Mass Effect 4" is and always was an encore. You know when a product is based on "what does fans want to see?" it's not going to hit the same peaks as when BioWare themselves were their creative driving force.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 20, 2017 23:18:55 GMT
So quick question. If ME:A was made by B-Team. What is the A-Team doing for 5 years ? Finishing Dragon Age Inquisition in the first year of MEA's development and still developing a new IP and now also Dragon Age 4 with Patrick Weekes and Alexis Kennedy as primary writers.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 20, 2017 23:23:37 GMT
So quick question. If ME:A was made by B-Team. What is the A-Team doing for 5 years ? Finishing Dragon Age Inquisition in the first year of MEA's development and still developing a new IP and now also Dragon Age 4 with Patrick Weekes and Alexis Kennedy as primary writers. They're not sitting on their hands, that's for sure.
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 20, 2017 23:24:41 GMT
Bioware doesn't have an A-Team anymore.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 20, 2017 23:26:30 GMT
BioWare is just EA now with a few leftovers.
The real BioWare is Beamdog or the guys that made Banner Saga. Or HoloLens
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 20, 2017 23:31:18 GMT
What pisses me off is that there are people that want this IP to die. Even if you don't like what they have done with the last couple of games how the hell can you root against the IP? It's not like there are other space opera rpgs on the market.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 20, 2017 23:45:27 GMT
I wonder what percentage of fans liked Citadel because of the 4th wall breaking and ridiculousness. I always thought ME was a bit ridiculous anyway, so piling it on didn't bother me. don't know about anyone else but to me Citadel DLC was completely cringe worthy except for the party at the end which I liked, what I do when I play through the Citadel till the party is mute the volume shove the difficulty to narrative so I can just speed through everything including the dialogue I actually enjoyed the main campaign of that DLC way more than the party, which I honestly didn't care for (and almost never activate). I think that's due in large part to the combat being notably more satisfying than the regular campaign and has a better boss fight by far.
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 20, 2017 23:49:14 GMT
I thought Austin was the B team?
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Mar 20, 2017 23:51:18 GMT
Nah, EA will push a ME battlefield with frostbite 4.0 from DICE, problem solved. A Dice/Bioware joint project... yes!, i approve this.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 21, 2017 0:00:09 GMT
BioWare is just EA now with a few leftovers. The real BioWare is Beamdog or the guys that made Banner Saga. Or HoloLensThe whole "the real thing is here" or "there's no real thing anymore" has always amused me - it's an empty talk. So they released the game that isn't perfect and before that a title you didn't like (which I, as many others, actually like a lot). And suddenly they're the bad people. Sheesh. I wonder what people will say in case either Secret IP or DA4 gets decent reception. ...I have to admit this has me worried about my native CDPR. God forbid Cyberpunk is a so-so game, or CDPR decides to include social commentary *some* people don't like. I hope it won't happen, but if it does, it's not going to be pretty.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 21, 2017 0:10:50 GMT
..I have to admit this has me worried about my native CDPR. God forbid Cyberpunk is a so-so game, or CDPR decides to include social commentary *some* people don't like. I hope it won't happen, but if it does, it's not going to be pretty. I…..kinda hope that does happen, but I'm a sadist like that.
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Post by Quickpaw on Mar 21, 2017 0:14:05 GMT
All the haters said DA:I would bomb and it didn't, they still say it did because EA doesn't release sales figures so we only know it's place in charts for physical console versions and that EA said it was their best release or something. Anyway we don't know how this will do. Let's wait and see. Not to be off-topic (okay, to be completely off-topic), but are you going to share your profile pic Ryder? And if so, under what name? 'Cause CC limitations aside, that's damn impressive.
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Post by lezio on Mar 21, 2017 0:14:16 GMT
BioWare is just EA now with a few leftovers. The real BioWare is Beamdog or the guys that made Banner Saga. Or HoloLensThe whole "the real thing is here" or "there's no real thing anymore" has always amused me - it's an empty talk. So they released the game that isn't perfect and before that a title you didn't like (which I, as many others, actually like a lot). And suddenly they're the bad people. Sheesh. I wonder what people will say in case either Secret IP or DA4 gets decent reception. ...I have to admit this has me worried about my native CDPR. God forbid Cyberpunk is a so-so game, or CDPR decides to include social commentary *some* people don't like. I hope it won't happen, but if it does, it's not going to be pretty. If Cyberpunk is a so-so game people will cut them some slack and buy their next game. If the game after that is also so-so, and also have a huge backlash, people will start asking themselves some questions. If the game AFTER that is so-so (because 1. it can't even come close to the other big name coming out in the same period and 2. it reaches its highest point in an ending DLC) people may actually start to wisen up. If the game after that becomes famous, before its D-1, because of the intelligent-looking animations of its characters, well, i imagine something like this would happen This to say that, at this point, Bioware/EA doing stuff like this, they're just feeding the hate-wagon that started after DA2
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 21, 2017 0:23:46 GMT
..I have to admit this has me worried about my native CDPR. God forbid Cyberpunk is a so-so game, or CDPR decides to include social commentary *some* people don't like. I hope it won't happen, but if it does, it's not going to be pretty. I…..kinda hope that does happen, but I'm a sadist like that. Me too. Particularly the social commentary thing; I enjoy watch Gamergate clowns froth at the mouth a lot more than I ought to.
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