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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 20, 2016 16:14:22 GMT
Unlikely it'll be Armando-Owen Bailey, himself Bailey mentions having an ex-wife, a daughter, and a son. During Thane's loyalty mission, Bailey replies to Shephard's shock to help Thane, by saying "You think he's the only man who ever screwed up raising a son?" Likely implying Bailey Sr & Bailey Jr don't see eye to eye. Bailey also loses contact with his family after the comm buoys went down. Likely the Bailey kids boarded an ARK and could appear in Andromeda. Just a thought. Especially since Bioware said we may see minor characters from the trilogy, but likely no main characters.
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Post by dalinne on Aug 20, 2016 17:46:16 GMT
YES! I WANT HIM. Other people I want: Barla Von Maeko Matsuo Lorik Qu'in However... All depends on the moment we depart to Andromeda
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Post by ClarkKent on Aug 20, 2016 17:47:10 GMT
I could see a *wink wink nudge nudge* moment like that happening in Andromeda. A character will introduce him or herself as Mary/Fred VERNER and we'll be like 'eh mer gerd'.
Not sure if it will be specifically Bailey though.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 20, 2016 18:38:06 GMT
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That isn't a bad choice. You would need some internal security forces.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 20, 2016 18:38:42 GMT
Its possible, but I doubt it.
I doubt his family would volunteer to go to Andromeda without knowing what happened to their father and former husband
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Post by Monk on Aug 20, 2016 19:03:19 GMT
Unlikely it'll be Armando-Owen Bailey, himself Bailey mentions having an ex-wife, a daughter, and a son. During Thane's loyalty mission, Bailey replies to Shephard's shock to help Thane, by saying "You think he's the only man who ever screwed up raising a son?" Likely implying Bailey Sr & Bailey Jr don't see eye to eye. Bailey also loses contact with his family after the comm buoys went down. Likely the Bailey kids boarded an ARK and could appear in Andromeda. Just a thought. Especially since Bioware said we may see minor characters from the trilogy, but likely no main characters. I personally wouldn't expect the whole family to uproot and essentially ditch him but the son might from being out of fucks to give. YES! I WANT HIM. Other people I want: Barla Von Maeko Matsuo Lorik Qu'in However... All depends on the moment we depart to Andromeda Editing my favorite side characters list, i also wouldn't mind seeing one or more of them, or even a relative of, on one of the Arks: - Gianni Parasini
- Shepard VI
- Niftu Cal, the Biotic God
- Detective Anaya
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Post by dalinne on Aug 20, 2016 22:24:47 GMT
- Gianni Parasini
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 21, 2016 0:20:02 GMT
Its possible, but I doubt it. I doubt his family would volunteer to go to Andromeda without knowing what happened to their father and former husband Well it depends. Like I said, Bailey makes a comment (likely referring to himself) about doing a bang up job at being a dad. Not to mention, in the ME comic "Inquisition" Bailey tells Udina he's going to Earth for vacation to see his kids. However Udina gives Bailey a job to arrest Palin, who gets shot, and promoted to Commander and not going on vacation. Point being, it's likely his family gave up on him, and by the sound of it, his son's likely distant too. Add comm buoys going down, they likely writ Bailey off and went to start anew.
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Post by yan on Aug 21, 2016 3:37:43 GMT
Do not worry about the lack of character from old trilogy in Andromeda. Bioware can resist in that first game and perhaps in the Andromeda 2, but they will not resist to put their preferred blue mary sue waifu in the third.
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THIS ISN'T THE PRESIDIUM *slams palm on desk*
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Post by Arcian on Aug 21, 2016 12:19:09 GMT
No one from ME3 can appear in MEA because the Arks left before ME3 started.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 21, 2016 12:48:25 GMT
Its possible, but I doubt it. I doubt his family would volunteer to go to Andromeda without knowing what happened to their father and former husband <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... I was going to put that in myself.... but my keyboard was running out of letters...
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 21, 2016 13:49:13 GMT
No one from ME3 can appear in MEA because the Arks left before ME3 started. Um... Bailey's family wasn't in ME3, they're on Earth, and could be in MEA. He (As I mentioned already) hasn't been in contact with them for some time. So like I said in first line, Bailey himself will likely not return (voice actor's a different story), but his kids could. Anyways, was it confirmed they left before ME3? I only remember them saying MEA's prologue, will be before major choices of ME3. The only major choices would be the ending. The Asari councillor, after Thesia, mentions about making preparations. What preparations? Also here's something that contradicts your statement. Adm. Hackett, during the Crucible's construction, says "It's massive, unlike anything we've seen before." It's believed by some fans, that there's an orb in the center of an Ark that looks like the Crucible. So if the Ark was made before and is larger than the Crucible, Hackett's comment about "It's unlike anything we've seen." wouldn't make sense.
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Post by dalinne on Aug 21, 2016 16:00:27 GMT
No one from ME3 can appear in MEA because the Arks left before ME3 started. That depends on WHEN we leave to Andromeda. If we leave before the events of ME3 start, Bailey cannot be there because he is present in the Citadel in ME3, altough other characters from ME1 and ME2 such as Maeko Matsuo, Lorik Quiin, etc. can appear. If we leave before the ME3 ending, Bailey can be there (because since we start Cronos Assault, we don't know anything about him) and other characters such as Barla Von etc. can be there too. That's why it would be sooo nice if devs tell us WHEN the story starts... Also, if we leave BEFORE ME1, no characters we know can be present. If we leave in the lapse of time between ME1-ME2, only characters from ME1 which don't reappear later in the next games can be present. If we leave in the lapse of time between ME2-ME3, it's the same as above.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2016 16:03:18 GMT
From what the trailer shows, Earth is in good condition. No fires are seen from orbit like in ME3 suggesting the ships leave the Milky Way before the events of ME3
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Post by Monk on Aug 21, 2016 17:13:04 GMT
Yeeah, i had a feeling that one or more on the list would die sometime before the departure of the Arks, hence the "relative of" loop hole. Because i'd be surprised, if Parasini had a sister, she wasn't as awesome as Gianni herself.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 21, 2016 20:46:21 GMT
From what the trailer shows, Earth is in good condition. No fires are seen from orbit like in ME3 suggesting the ships leave the Milky Way before the events of ME3 But was it really Earth and not an Earth like planet?
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Post by Arcian on Aug 21, 2016 20:55:22 GMT
No one from ME3 can appear in MEA because the Arks left before ME3 started. Um... Bailey's family wasn't in ME3, they're on Earth, and could be in MEA. He (As I mentioned already) hasn't been in contact with them for some time. So like I said in first line, Bailey himself will likely not return (voice actor's a different story), but his kids could. He mentioned not having heard from them since the Reapers destroyed the interstellar comm buoys, which implicitly means he was in contact with them shortly before the destruction of said comm buoys occurred. In other words, they were still on Earth by the time the Reapers invaded. And do you honestly think his family would go on a one-way trip to Andromeda without telling him first? Estranged or not, that's literally the biggest dick move anyone could pull against a father. Anyways, was it confirmed they left before ME3? I only remember them saying MEA's prologue, will be before major choices of ME3. The only major choices would be the ending. They confirmed it by showing us the fully built Arks being boarded in orbit around a decidedly non-invaded and non-burning Earth. As you may recall, Earth is invaded and set on fire in the first five minutes of ME3, and remains invaded and on fire for the remainder of the game. That implicitly means the Arks embark pre-ME3. As for setting the game AFTER Mass Effect: The Turd? As much as I would want them to set the game after ME3, there's no way to avoid the game's galaxy-impacting choices in such a scenario, least of all Synthesis. The Asari councillor after Thesia mentions about making preparations. What preparations? Who the hell knows. She sure as fuck wasn't talking about the Arks, though. We already know they don't leave during the Reaper War, leaving only the time period AFTER the war... which would be pointless, as there's no need to flee the galaxy if the Reapers have been defeated. Also here's some that contradicts your statement. Adm. Hackett, during the Crucible's construction, he says "It's massive, unlike anything we've seen before." It's believed by some fans, that there's an orb in the center of an Ark that looks like the Crucible. So if the Ark was made before and is larger than the Crucible, Hackett's comment about "It's unlike anything we've seen." wouldn't make sense. Yeah, I think the integrity of my argument can stand up pretty well to baseless fan speculation. The cost of one Crucible collapsed the galactic economy - there's just no way they were able to build multiple, even larger devices.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 21, 2016 21:29:37 GMT
The Asari councillor after Thesia mentions about making preparations. What preparations? Who the hell knows. She sure as fuck wasn't talking about the Arks, though. We already know they don't leave during the Reaper War, leaving only the time period AFTER the war... which would be pointless, as there's no need to flee the galaxy if the Reapers have been defeated. Also here's some that contradicts your statement. Adm. Hackett, during the Crucible's construction, he says "It's massive, unlike anything we've seen before." It's believed by some fans, that there's an orb in the center of an Ark that looks like the Crucible. So if the Ark was made before and is larger than the Crucible, Hackett's comment about "It's unlike anything we've seen." wouldn't make sense. Yeah, I think the integrity of my argument can stand up pretty well to baseless fan speculation. The cost of one Crucible collapsed the galactic economy - there's just no way they were able to build multiple, even larger devices. The hell's with the hostility? There's been no confirmation when MEA starts, just the "before ME3's major choices" That's pretty vague, which major choices? All we have to go on is assumptions, even your claims are baseless, because we know absolutely nothing about MEA than what little has been said. As for the economy, how would creating 1 project put the galaxy in the whole, when creating 4-5 (whatever the number was during the trailer) massive ships, big enough for just about every species in the galaxy, not?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2016 21:32:28 GMT
From what the trailer shows, Earth is in good condition. No fires are seen from orbit like in ME3 suggesting the ships leave the Milky Way before the events of ME3 But was it really Earth and not an Earth like planet? If you want to say it wasn't Earth to support that its possible for Bailey's family members to be on the ships to go to Andromeda, that's fine. I will stick with that its Earth and the ships leave before the events of ME3
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 22, 2016 0:14:26 GMT
But was it really Earth and not an Earth like planet? If you want to say it wasn't Earth to support that its possible for Bailey's family members to be on the ships to go to Andromeda, that's fine. I will stick with that its Earth and the ships leave before the events of ME3 Fair enough. *sighs* We won't truly know till November-March? This is going to be a long wait... all my awaited games don't come out till Oct-Feb T-T... With exception of Attack on Titan. Btw I wouldn't take the trailer to heart, as there's the trailer of Grunt, Thane, and Shepard on Horizon. Yet don't you find them, at least Thane after Horizon? So, I take trailers with a grain of salt.
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Post by Arcian on Aug 22, 2016 0:16:53 GMT
Who the hell knows. She sure as fuck wasn't talking about the Arks, though. We already know they don't leave during the Reaper War, leaving only the time period AFTER the war... which would be pointless, as there's no need to flee the galaxy if the Reapers have been defeated. Yeah, I think the integrity of my argument can stand up pretty well to baseless fan speculation. The cost of one Crucible collapsed the galactic economy - there's just no way they were able to build multiple, even larger devices. The hell's with the hostility? What hostility? There's been no confirmation when MEA starts, just the "before ME3's major choices" That's pretty vague, which major choices? All we have to go on is assumptions, even your claims are baseless, because we know absolutely nothing about MEA than what little has been said. They've already confirmed it in the E3 trailer by showing the Arks in orbit around a non-invaded, not-burning Earth. As it is under invasion and on fire for the entirety of ME3, and they've strongly implied the exodus takes place before the big ME3 choices, that leaves pre-ME3 as the only possible setting for that trailer scene. As for the economy, how would creating 1 project put the galaxy in the whole, when creating 4-5 (whatever the number was during the trailer) massive ships, big enough for just about every species in the galaxy, not? That's for BioWare to answer. I personally doubt they ran the numbers when they picked this logical clusterfuck of a premise.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Aug 22, 2016 0:31:51 GMT
The hell's with the hostility? What hostility? There's been no confirmation when MEA starts, just the "before ME3's major choices" That's pretty vague, which major choices? All we have to go on is assumptions, even your claims are baseless, because we know absolutely nothing about MEA than what little has been said. They've already confirmed it in the E3 trailer by showing the Arks in orbit around a non-invaded, not-burning Earth. As it is under invasion and on fire for the entirety of ME3, and they've strongly implied the exodus takes place before the big ME3 choices, that leaves pre-ME3 as the only possible setting for that trailer scene. As for the economy, how would creating 1 project put the galaxy in the whole, when creating 4-5 (whatever the number was during the trailer) massive ships, big enough for just about every species in the galaxy, not? It just seemed hostile. As for the trailer, as I mentioned to mikefest, I don't take trailers as truths. Because there's the ME2 Horizon trailer, with Grunt, Thane, and Shepard. If I remember right, don't you find Thane after Horizon? If so, why was he in the trailer? The E3 trailer didn't confirm anything aside from what the default female Ryder and 1 new alien, looks like. So while in the trailer, that might be Earth, but like ME2 Horizon trailer, when the game comes out, the Arks are board at some distant planet.
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Post by Arcian on Aug 22, 2016 1:28:18 GMT
What hostility? They've already confirmed it in the E3 trailer by showing the Arks in orbit around a non-invaded, not-burning Earth. As it is under invasion and on fire for the entirety of ME3, and they've strongly implied the exodus takes place before the big ME3 choices, that leaves pre-ME3 as the only possible setting for that trailer scene. It just seemed hostile. As for the trailer, as I mentioned to mikefest, I don't take trailers as truths. Because there's the ME2 Horizon trailer, with Grunt, Thane, and Shepard. If I remember right, don't you find Thane after Horizon? If so, why was he in the trailer? The E3 trailer didn't confirm anything aside from what the default female Ryder and 1 new alien, looks like. So while in the trailer, that might be Earth, but like ME2 Horizon trailer, when the game comes out, the Arks are board at some distant planet. The entire squadmate roster of ME2 was initially supposed to be available from the get go as evident by fully fleshed out dialogue options in early missions for squadmates not recruitable at that point in the released game (for example Legion having dialogue in Garrus, Mordin and Jack's recruitment missions, despite being found in the penultimate main mission of the game), but for some reason BioWare decided to gate some of them behind important story missions. With that said, there's a slight difference between a trailer showing a squadmate present in a mission in which they were intended to be available at the point the trailer was made but which later changed for reasons, and a trailer which shows scenes that affect the underlying plot premise for the entire game. Your suggestion that the content might change is the equivalent of BioWare showing Shepard dying in the ME2 trailer and then not having that scene at all in the final game. It's kind of an important scene that affects the entire plot of the game. The same is true for that shot of an uninvaded, unburning Earth being orbited by Arks.
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