What Did You Do Today in Andromeda

LOL, you did indeed. If I was going to do an insanity run again maybe I'd change back to Soldier but its too much fun being a Sentinel on Normal. 

Why not Insanity Sentinel?

As an aside to this I kind of felt like they pushed Reyes hard. Like they only sort of wanted to give you a choice. Sloane when you meet her treats you like crap, when you help with the kett like crap, when she is asking for backup she again treats you like crap. And yeah she’s pretty much horrible all around. I give even odds for if there is a mea2 they get rid of her anyways.

Edit to add many seem to see some honor in her. I don’t see it though yeah I never read the book. My impression is shed turn on you and the initiative colony in a second if it suited her. I get the same impression from Reyes but I get the impression Reyes wants it to work, I think she wants it to fail so she has an excuse to murder everyone.

Why not Insanity Sentinel?

EDIT: Ugh, my great enemy autocorrect has inserted apostrophes and misspelled words. I can’t truly edit on my phone, so I’ll just have to accept the errors as they are.
Secondly, I wrote most of this in a quasi-in-game, stream of thought fashion. I’m not actually calling any of my friends, fools, dummies, etc.. All opinions are valid on the topic and deserving of respect. I wanted to clarify after reading my impassioned defense of the merits of Ms. Sloane Kelley. (What a lady, right? 😆)

dazk , I wish I could get quote to function correctly. It will make a rebuttal more challenging. I disagree with your interpretation of the events before and after the exile.

She absolutely was offered an out and could’ve stayed on as Security Director. Tann was content to (rightfully and accurately) pin it all on Calix Corvanis and his inner circle. If Sloane had sided with him, he’d have been relieved and satisfied. She forcefully took a stand to protect the future-exiles from Tann’s heavy hand. That same heavy hand was largely responsible to begin with for the mutiny.

You say that Sloane decided to fight leadership by killing Krogan, but that’s a huge over-simplification. Tann allowed Spender to awaken a Krogan Warlord and unleash Nakmor’s warriors on a bunch of engineers, scientists and dock workers. The Krogan were gleefully eviscerating and dismembering people all around her. She picked up a gun and killed a single Krogan before he could stomp yet another nearby human. She can hardly be said to have participated in some major armed resistance.

Sloane wisely tried to diffuse the crisis before it became violent. Unfortunately, she decided she had no time to tell Addison where she was going. (You gotta love plot-driven foolishness. It’s every screen-writer’s go-to.) While she tried to save lives and act non-violently, Tann’s dumbass was letting Spender make unauthorized deals and awaken the aforementioned Krogan warclan. Addison also bears some blame, as she too often moped and hid. She decided to finally get involved in the 11th hour, after mostly hiding or moping whenever she was needed. Sloane ruefully wished that Addison had been more reliable and decided to act swiftly and alone. Obviously, that didn’t end well.

You completely skip the part where she altruistically chose exile in order to at least try to keep the hopelessly unprepared engineers, scientists and dock workers alive.

You say she got lucky and stumbled upon Kadara Port, but that’s not what happened. She kept her crew alive for months with no known habitable planets near. She raided Kett vessels and built trade relationships with Angara. Her angaran trade partners told her about Kadara Port. She was looking for a safe port. She found Kett penning and processing Angara. The exiles took the Kett by surprise and annihilated them nearly to the last Kett. She then assumed leadership by universal assent.

Things were looking hopeful until the planet proved inhospitable. The free settlement she encouraged proved impossible, and everyone had to squeeze into the insufficient space of the Port settlement. Necessities and resources were scant, so freedoms were restricted and taxation became harsh. The Angara grew resentful for three reasons. One, where they used to live free they were now taxed and controlled. Two, Sloane didn’t allow them into her organization because she feared Roekarr infiltrators. Three, those aforementioned Roekarr spread discontent. Unhappy or not, the Angara were treated no worse than anyone else.

Kadara Port society became pretty harsh. You wanna live here in the Port? Great, but we can’t afford free rides. You need to pay. Wanna drown your regrets in drugs? Cool. It’s your life to live or waste as you see fit. We can at least make some money off those drugs to support the Port for the rest of us who aren’t looking to OD. Wanna be a homicidal asshole? Not here, buddy. Take your crazy ass to the badlands.

Sloane held together a harsh society under terrible circumstances. We know they lost a ton of the original exiles to Kett and deprivation before ever finding Kadara. The deprivation didn’t exactly end there, either. The exiles were fighting hard to survive. In societies like that, might makes right starts to rear it’s ugly head. It’s still better than having the Johanns of the galaxy running amok. We haven’t even considered the fact that many of the exiles were beginning to suffer neurological issues and behavioral abnormalities due to cryosickness, deprivation or some combination.

In come the opportunist mobsters calling themselves The Collective. You think they want Kadara Port do they can one day reintegrate into Nexus society? Riiiighht. They want a port of trade and a base of operations. They’re not just trying to survive, but to thrive at all costs, as all criminals do. They’re led by much smarter, better equipped people than Sloane’s lot. These guys have stolen and repurposed some pretty serious Ai tech across Heleus. They’re willing to start a war on Kadara in order to achieve their goals. The sabotage, torture, murder, spread discontent and do all the assorted things insurgents do. Anyone who trusts such a diabolical group is a fool. Worst case, Sloane’s group wants be left alone. (Sloane seems open to reintegration if and when Tann is no longer in charge; though it will take time to heal some divides.) The Collective? Why the hell would the mob ever turn over their holdings to the law? It will never happen. These guys are potentially a threat to the broader goals of the Ai. Their ambitions and capabilities seem substantial, and remain unknown.

I can’t see how so many discount everything Sloane accomplished. There’s be nothing but death out there had she not stepped up and saved a good portion of the Ai’s personnel. She led them through horrors to do it, so it was never going to be sweet and pretty. Even more amazing is that many willingly gulp down Reyes’ propaganda and BS despite being explicitly shown and told what it is. He lied to and manipulated Ryder the entire time they’re involved. His Angara leader for the Port is a puppet and a lie. He explicitly doesn’t want the Angara on Aya knowing the truth. Everything he offers Kadara Port is the same shit that Sloane offered, but more cleverly packaged and presented. He’s a liar, a con and a crime boss. He’s way too crafty to ever be trusted. I like the character, but I’m not a blind fool. Dude is the Kingpin of Andromeda, or well on his way in some game saves.
Not insane enough to drink his BS Kool-Aid.

I’m pretty much considering the book fan fic at this point. From Element Zeros description everyone is so out of character for how they are in the game and the events are so much more extreme than depicted in the game it just seems like mirror universe where the book is where they all got the villain beard.

Yeah Morda was so damn intimidating even in a book, she was supposed to be significantly taller, smarter and more cunning yet the game makes a mockery of her.

What always amazes me is that Addison or Kandros or someone around at the time just didn't "not" wake Tann. Seriously they knew they needed a new motivational leader with the Death of Jien, why didn't someone make an executive decision like Sloane or Addison to wake someone like August Bradley? Hell Addison and Sloane would have handled the job far better on their own rather than with Tann constantly screwing things up.

I know you are summing up a book in a page so a lot is lost but to me that doesn't sound like the characters I saw in the game. Is Tann a pretty bad leader sure, but he actually is the most competent leader you meet on the nexus. And overall a decent person. He isn't a psychopath who sends out Krogan to murder people left and right. Which by the way if Kesh was like Tann made a deal with us to stop the uprising so we started butchering everyone and then Tann reneged I'd be like, well geez maybe because you are a bunch of psychotics. He isn't a incompetent idiot constantly making mistakes, his big flaw is he is lame and uninspiring.

From what I saw in the game Sloane is just a thug who oppresses people for personal power not out of necessity. Addison wasn't necessarily indecisive or anything in the game she was just petty clinging onto her status even if it hurt the initiative.

I still think the worst decision in the game was having the nexus show up a year earlier than you. If I have to read a prelude book to understand what is going on you are fucking up. I assume its a accident, because it would be a even dumber decision than most of the AI decisions to have your pathfinders show up a year after the bulk of the colonists. And honestly you just don't feel like a pathfinder if the paths were already found.

Learned in another thread of the bugged Karaoke "mission" in the Nexus' Vortex bar.