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Post by Addictress on Mar 22, 2017 15:26:38 GMT
For some reason, only Jaal and maybe three or four other Angara have a strong "accent" (even though the accent chosen is some cliche, vague Hollywood African accent that might have more troubling implications in itself, but that's besides the point). Then all the rest of the NPCs and Angaran characters have standard "Hollywood British" accents.
It's incredibly lazy and shows they didn't care much for developing a consistent Angaran world.
Having consistent styles and rules regarding voice acting and mannerisms for each alien race is critical for world-building.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 22, 2017 15:36:01 GMT
Consistency is in short supply in the game in general... if it wasn't for the constant callbacks and recooked characters from the trilogy, it would be a total mess. Standing on the shoulders of giants and contributing to their work by shitting on their head... poetry.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Mar 22, 2017 15:55:54 GMT
Wait, really? Another accents thread? I'll just copy and paste relevant parts of my response from the last one:
Now then, different accents happen in sci-fi all the time, obviously because they get different actors who have different accents, yet are perfectly capable of acting the role as required. See: Babylon 5, Star Trek, pretty much every major sci-fi from which Mass Effect has drawn its influence. You can safely assume they have different regions/dialects or whatever as needed, without it needing to be explicitly stated.
And another point to consider- some species have thus far been voiced by one actor in their entirety. While I love Mark Meer, does that mean that we'd need to "explain" the casting of anyone else as a Hanar, vorcha or volus? Actually I'm pretty sure I've heard different volus VOs already...
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 22, 2017 16:17:57 GMT
There's... there's an explanation why they have different accents. In the game.
And there shouldn't be a damn explanation either, because aliens should have different damn accents from within species just like humans. But for some reason, people want for aliens to be monolithic.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 22, 2017 16:20:09 GMT
There's... there's an explanation why they have different accents. In the game. And there shouldn't be a damn explanation either, because aliens should have different damn accents from within species just like humans. But for some reason, people want for aliens to be monolithic. Earth accents... sure.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 22, 2017 16:22:27 GMT
There's... there's an explanation why they have different accents. In the game. And there shouldn't be a damn explanation either, because aliens should have different damn accents from within species just like humans. But for some reason, people want for aliens to be monolithic. Earth accents... sure. Almost as if all of the voice actors only come from Earth.
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Post by Addictress on Mar 22, 2017 16:23:18 GMT
There's... there's an explanation why they have different accents. In the game. And there shouldn't be a damn explanation either, because aliens should have different damn accents from within species just like humans. But for some reason, people want for aliens to be monolithic. You're not hearing the aliens speak directly. They're all using a universal translator. For all you know, Angarans actually speak in clicks and whistles. Consistency helps suspension of disbelief.
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Post by Addictress on Mar 22, 2017 16:25:14 GMT
Wait, really? Another accents thread? I'll just copy and paste relevant parts of my response from the last one: Now then, different accents happen in sci-fi all the time, obviously because they get different actors who have different accents, yet are perfectly capable of acting the role as required. See: Babylon 5, Star Trek, pretty much every major sci-fi from which Mass Effect has drawn its influence. You can safely assume they have different regions/dialects or whatever as needed, without it needing to be explicitly stated. And another point to consider- some species have thus far been voiced by one actor in their entirety. While I love Mark Meer, does that mean that we'd need to "explain" the casting of anyone else as a Hanar, vorcha or volus? Actually I'm pretty sure I've heard different volus VOs already... The volus all had one monolithic sound, and so did the hanar and vorcha. Those were strong standout races. Races in Andromed are by nature tropey. And if you wanted them to be more complex and deep then you'd have to open all the other cans of worms lying around in regards to their world-building. Considering the depth they're willing to tackle, however, presenting one uniform sound is essential.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Mar 22, 2017 16:30:40 GMT
The volus all had one monolithic sound, and so did the hanar and vorcha. Those were strong standout races. Races in Andromed are by nature tropey. And if you wanted them to be more complex and deep then you'd have to open all the other cans of worms lying around in regards to their world-building. Considering the depth they're willing to tackle, however, presenting one uniform sound is essential. It's a Rubber Forehead Alien crossed with Planet of Hats setting- every race is tropey. Remember the Quarians? Now if they had screwed up the modulation for one character or another, then yeah that'd be a bug/oversight whatever. But accents don't matter.
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Post by amehzing on Mar 22, 2017 17:19:49 GMT
This wouldn't be a problem for me for MW species (the Asari also have a lot of different accents) if they didn't specifically point out how diverse humans are.
For the Angara, it doesn't bother me. We seen Green, Blue, Grey, Pink, and Maybe-purple-maybe-I'm-colorblind Angara, so different accents is totally fine by me.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 22, 2017 17:50:59 GMT
This wouldn't be a problem for me for MW species (the Asari also have a lot of different accents) if they didn't specifically point out how diverse humans are.For the Angara, it doesn't bother me. We seen Green, Blue, Grey, Pink, and Maybe-purple-maybe-I'm-colorblind Angara, so different accents is totally fine by me. That's the funny thing, besides minor variation in facial structure, skin color, and size, there is so little diversity in humans. We all have the same number of parts, in the same places. Our diversity as a species is low, and race is a construct.
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 22, 2017 21:09:18 GMT
My God, do you ever stop complaining? It's explained right in the game why the accents are the way they are.
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Post by constructman on Mar 22, 2017 21:18:16 GMT
What's the explanation? I must have missed it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 22, 2017 23:25:41 GMT
For some reason, only Jaal and maybe three or four other Angara have a strong "accent" (even though the accent chosen is some cliche, vague Hollywood African accent that might have more troubling implications in itself, but that's besides the point). Then all the rest of the NPCs and Angaran characters have standard "Hollywood British" accents. It's incredibly lazy and shows they didn't care much for developing a consistent Angaran world. Having consistent styles and rules regarding voice acting and mannerisms for each alien race is critical for world-building. damnitI never felt quarians had consistent accents. Sometimes I thought they sounded Russian but others sounded British. For quarians, it's downright odd because they basically all live in close quarters and they wouldn't have much variance in accent. Other races who live on multiple planets could have differing accents. The Angarans live on multiple planets. Just because you might encounter a bunch of them in one place doesn't mean they were all raised there.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 21:01:50 GMT
Earth accents... sure. Almost as if all of the voice actors only come from Earth. I get what you are saying yet a good voice actor should be able to speak any accent, not just their native one.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 29, 2017 21:33:46 GMT
Almost as if all of the voice actors only come from Earth. I get what you are saying yet a good voice actor should be able to speak any accent, not just their native one. No, that's an unrealistic standard.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 23:32:07 GMT
I get what you are saying yet a good voice actor should be able to speak any accent, not just their native one. No, that's an unrealistic standard. That a Bioware professional voice actor might actually be good at his/her job. Yep you are right
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 29, 2017 23:56:27 GMT
No, that's an unrealistic standard. That a Bioware professional voice actor might actually be good at his/her job. Yep you are right Except they are good at their jobs. You in other hand have unrealistic standard they should be capable to voice act different accents to be considered good.
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Post by surelyforth on Mar 29, 2017 23:58:01 GMT
No, that's an unrealistic standard. That a Bioware professional voice actor might actually be good at his/her job. Yep you are right 1. There are literally hundreds of thousands of different accents for English alone, some of which would require a person to basically re-write the way their brains processes certain phonemes in order to not come across as overly broad/stereotypical/offensive. 2. There are BW regulars who are among some of the most talented artists in their fields, so this "sick burn" on behalf of them, and other hard working VAs, ranges from being ridiculous to uninformed to just mean. 3. Ultimately, knowing that the Angara are spread out across the Heleus cluster, I would find it weirder if they all had the same accent. Accents are highly variable even in relatively small geographic areas; it would stretch credulity if a race could maintain consistency across solar systems.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 30, 2017 0:05:30 GMT
Really, the accents are main problem with the Angara? Honestly, compared to fact that their just another really boring alien race that ironically enough don't really feel alien, their accents didn't even register in my mind. God, I miss the Geth.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 30, 2017 0:27:09 GMT
That a Bioware professional voice actor might actually be good at his/her job. Yep you are right 1. There are literally hundreds of thousands of different accents for English alone, some of which would require a person to basically re-write the way their brains processes certain phonemes in order to not come across as overly broad/stereotypical/offensive. 2. There are BW regulars who are among some of the most talented artists in their fields, so this "sick burn" on behalf of them, and other hard working VAs, ranges from being ridiculous to uninformed to just mean. 3. Ultimately, knowing that the Angara are spread out across the Heleus cluster, I would find it weirder if they all had the same accent. Accents are highly variable even in relatively small geographic areas; it would stretch credulity if a race could maintain consistency across solar systems. For the first 2 lets just agree to disagree. For the 3rd one, you are right I do NOT have a problem with them having different accents among there own race. However I do find it a bit strange, that they would have sliglty sounding Southern or Irish accents when speaking English. Personaly I think this is a very minor issue, I was just commenting on voice acting in general, and any time I can take a swipe at the 'new' Bioware I will
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Post by surelyforth on Mar 30, 2017 0:44:00 GMT
Personaly I think this is a very minor issue, I was just commenting on voice acting in general, and any time I can take a swipe at the 'new' Bioware I will Cool, as long as you realize you're swiping at people* who don't deserve to be swiped at and are on shaky rhetorical ground when you do so. *including a bunch of people who were involved with "old" BW, too
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 30, 2017 0:52:54 GMT
I think the voice acting is a problem for the Angara, but more because how it doesn't contribute to their supposed hyper emotional sensitivity
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Post by Raga on Mar 30, 2017 1:05:46 GMT
As a Southerner, I find it more frustrating (and amusing) that literally the only person in the entire series with a Southern accent went something like "Whoo, doggy, howdy-do, I'm from TEK-sus!"
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 30, 2017 1:32:13 GMT
As a Southerner, I find it more frustrating (and amusing) that literally the only person in the entire series with a Southern accent went something like "Whoo, doggy, howdy-do, I'm from TEK-sus!" Slim Pickens voiced an ME character?
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