The Old Guard (Ye Olde Cullen Thread v4.0 + gen discussion)

I really like Blackwall as character, I love these kind of characters who have a dark past and they are in a path of redemption (Xena big fan here). Lol about Blackwall being bi, sometimes I want the characters to be playersexual (Alistair & Cullen) and sometimes I don't care, I'm bipolar about this XD

I have to see all the party banter on youtube, because the way that it was handled in Inquisition was a mess, I have a mod to hear them every 15 minutes installed but...

That would be awesome indeed And bait for haters for sure, the shitstorm would be unleashed, it would be really fun, but who cares! XD As I said, I'm bipolar about this because I totally support writers's view on established sexualities for the characters, and in other hand I think, fuck it this a game and I hate when the options don't do it for me. With Alistair I got so frustrated because I couldn't play legitimately the story that I wanted, just like it was in my mind, so I headcanonized that this dorky templar just went demisexual for my Warden, because they went through a lot together yada yada yada, but I can not avoid to think that my story is not that real because I used mods, so I sacrificed my Warden to make a solid story for future sequels. My frustration for Cullen is due the damn time restraints and that pisses me off a lot more, oh well.
So as you can see my opinion about this is like the Fade, changing and inconstant

I don't know who this Curmudgeons guy is, but I don't get all the hate for DA2 to be honest, there are only four people in the entire gang who happen to be bisexual, why is that less real? Sadly, heteronormativity is very deep in the collective imagination in our society, lgtba people have been invisible for millennia, if a guy is -socially/established speaking- manly we are going to think he only likes girls, that group of people who we know nothing about?, of course everyone are going to think that they all are straight, because "is" "the normal state of things", and so on so on... When I read the old topic "restore Cullen bisexuality" in the deceased Bioware forums, I remember some nasty comments about how bisexuality doesn't stick with Cullen's character because you know he is a manly-archetype-knight-in-shining-armour-virtuous-prince-man, and I'm like whaaaat? Ok mate.


What do you mean about rewritting Thedosian culture? Dorian?

Oh I have the opposite opinion about Dorian's backstory, I really think that having real world problems in fiction gives a really awesome depth to the story, in my view is a form to educate people. But I can totally understand your point because that character will always have a good amount of avoidable angst, however the way it was handled with Dorian I think it was pretty good. What disappointed me a little is that Dorian is like the stereotypical (not in a histrionic way, but a cool way) gay made in flesh, he seems like a character out of the "Queer as Folk" tv show (which I love), this is one of the reasons I will always weep over Cullen not being a option for us, weeping like brat I'm telling you XD The sad thing about this is that maybe Bioware will give us a KISA in the next game, but that KISA will never be Cullen, that ship has sailed, for good... so I'm leaving to cry a little in my room, I'll be right back

About that line about Fenris and Hawke, I totally agree, it was really odd. Maybe Hawke know how homophobic Tevinter can be?

Question for those who play lady inquisitors: does Mother Giselle question you about your relationship with Dorian? Just wondering. I always felt like she was implying that people thought my male inquisitor was involved with him and that that would be "scandalous" (WHY??? If it is b/c he's Tevinter then okay, but if it's because he's gay... screw you, writers! lol)

(And I'll never forgive Gaider for the "Is it because I'm a man?" question Hawke can ask Fenris after they sleep together. NEVER.)

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(And I'll never forgive Gaider for the "Is it because I'm a man?" question Hawke can ask Fenris after they sleep together. NEVER.)

This is why Dorian isn't my favorite. (And I agree with Artemis about Dorian's backstory, but I wrote this so many times already, that I'm boring from myself too...)
Yes, Mother Giselle worries about femInquisitor's relationship with Dorian as well, because Dorian from Tevinter. Mother Giselle appear in the library only if the Inquisitor's relationship with Dorian "too good", and it can mean also friendship, not necessarily love (a friend also able to exert too big influence, and this can be dangerous). This is understandable from her viewpoint, because Tevinter hardly can be called a friendly country, especially according the Chantry's opinion. in this case the concern is legitimate. I think, Giselle don't have any reason to trust, in fact, I think, in Inquisition nobody have any reason to trust, because they don't know each other.
 

My first run with a female Inquisitor, it felt like she was wrapping up her homophobia in an anti Tevinter package. When I was romancing Dorian with my guy... Starscream - I let my son name him  ... it felt a whole lot more homophobic than anti Tevinter. Maybe I was more sensitive to the tone? I don't think the dialog was much different if you in a romance with him, was it? Hm... 
At any rate, after that happy little convo, Giselle was on my "do not resuscitate" list.  

I remember when you "come out" to Dorian and tell him you had sex with men before, he says how scandalous. So I assume its a scandal for male herald of Andraste to sleep with men?