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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2018 0:22:22 GMT
I can't make my mind about her reaction. I think she might possibly just be very surprised (not in a good way) but manage to handle things diplomatically. I don't have deep enough feeling or understanding about her character. How would you imagine hers?
She would want to stop Solas since his plan will kill countless people, but like before she wouldn't support an ends justifies the means approach to it but instead try diplomacy but if that fails then at least remain civilized rather than becoming like the monster you're trying to stop. You see them interact in the comic series Dragon Age: Knight Errant. It takes place after Trespasser. Oh, I do not have access to that comic. How is it then their relationship? The comic's take on the DA2 companion relationship is nice, but nothing would give as much enjoyment as seeing them in game with their VA  Well, Varric tells Vaea on the way there his personal opinion of Sebastian, saying "Nice guy, but pious as hell and boring as shit." Sebastian in private says Varric is an old of sorts. When they do meet they seem to get along well enough, calling each other by either their first name or nickname rather than their titles. That said, Sebastian tells Varric that he knows they were never really close. So overall I'd say they are in the situation where while they aren't friends they are friendly. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2018 0:26:51 GMT
I vouch for dual protag!! 😆 It got me into thinking though.. what if, tearing down the fade it self will be kinda 'harmless' (save for the mass panic, chaos, hysteria and such due to the drastic megaton changes in everything and everyone..) .. But the actual danger comes from the Evanuris being free ? I'm betting they would WANT war to just vent up their anger, not to mention wanting to exact revenge (especially for being depraved of coffee for Ages beyond counting! Imagine that!) If that should happen... it'll be interesting to see what'll happen next? Maybe it can be the next setting for DA5 where everyone's faith is practiced more openly? I guess? 😶 YES!
YES YES YES!
I would actually love to see if Mythal is indeed part of Andraste, because damn that would make the Chantry mad! Imagine spending centuries and milleniums trying to make the Elvhen Pantheon looks bad and then realizing Andraste has indeed received part of Mythal... That would possibly tear down Andrastian Chantry as well.
Plus, if the there is war of the Elvhen Pantheon vs the Forbidden One (what if they are the Old Gods?) XD
And Dual Protag. Like in Dishonoured XD. Can we just get Quizzy back? I suppose no, just technically think of all DW rogues, or S&S warriors. Although the concept is interesting it would be pretty hard to implement in game  They could just give the Inquisitor a prosthetic arm. They've toyed with the idea before, for example The Iron Bull almost had one and we see one in Trespasser. It can even explain why the Inquisitor is at Level 1 again: they need to relearn everything with this new arm. |
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Post by cerulione on Nov 13, 2018 9:35:17 GMT
YES!
YES YES YES!
I would actually love to see if Mythal is indeed part of Andraste, because damn that would make the Chantry mad! Imagine spending centuries and milleniums trying to make the Elvhen Pantheon looks bad and then realizing Andraste has indeed received part of Mythal... That would possibly tear down Andrastian Chantry as well.
Plus, if the there is war of the Elvhen Pantheon vs the Forbidden One (what if they are the Old Gods?) XD
And Dual Protag. Like in Dishonoured XD. Can we just get Quizzy back? I suppose no, just technically think of all DW rogues, or S&S warriors. Although the concept is interesting it would be pretty hard to implement in game They could just give the Inquisitor a prosthetic arm. They've toyed with the idea before, for example The Iron Bull almost had one and we see one in Trespasser. It can even explain why the Inquisitor is at Level 1 again: they need to relearn everything with this new arm. I love this idea  |
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Post by R2s Muse on Nov 13, 2018 10:01:47 GMT
I'm still big on the theory on cole and Solavellan's Lavellan (that crazy Lavellan) may be the only way to keep that last bit of humanity (humanity-elf? elfity) within him. That last scene on Trespasser, it seems that although he respects all high approval quizzy, only on romanced Lavellan he does admit that it changes everything to find someone like her that change all his view of the world. I agree that a romanced Lavellan influenced him in DA:I. But... she doesn't get to do much as an NPC in the new game. That ... distresses me, because you, the player, no longer get to be Solas's girlfriend and change his heart any more. What's done is done, and any further changing would likely have to happen by your new PC and for all players (who mostly despise Solas). On the whole Thedas turn into something without regular reality, Bad Future Redcliffe is already one no? We sees things floating on the sky, spirits getting out of no where.
What bugs me is that, if that is what really happens how the heck Solas didn't actually manage to do something to Corypheus already? Flemythal would do something, seriously. How can Solas end up in a cell in redcliffe castle???!
Hmm, good point. I guess that was a world where the hole in the Veil grew too big and sort of failed, but somehow I guess I had assumed that fully uninstalling the Veil would be different than it getting broken and becoming unstable. That the world before the Veil was more like what we saw in the Crossroads, with a little more solidity thrown in. But who knows. And, I guess Solas got captured in Redcliffe because he hadn't taken Mythal's power yet? But, yeah, why wouldn't Flemeth have done something; dunno. A common refrain, I think. |
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Post by R2s Muse on Nov 13, 2018 10:11:28 GMT
I vouch for dual protag!! 😆 So much this! If the game does let the Veil come down, then I bet it would have to be like that -- no big deal! But now everyone can use magic, and so old prejudices need to, ahem, realign. That would be fabulous! But probably the start of a new age. Magic Age?? LOL A Wizard Did It Age?  I *do* so want the Evanuris freed and wreaking havoc, with only our PC and an uneasy alliance with Solas to stand in the way. I would also hope for a crisis of faith if it becomes widely known that "real" gods are now walking the earth, smashing all the elven mythologies. But, I hope the devs stick to their guns and never reveal the Maker as just some powerful dude running around Thedas marrying singing women. |
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Post by R2s Muse on Nov 13, 2018 10:15:34 GMT
They could just give the Inquisitor a prosthetic arm. They've toyed with the idea before, for example The Iron Bull almost had one and we see one in Trespasser. It can even explain why the Inquisitor is at Level 1 again: they need to relearn everything with this new arm. I love this idea Agree; I would love this. And The Witcher 3 handled Geralt and Ciri as temporarily dual protagonists, so I suppose we could get a little. I do wonder, tho, how newbies to the series would feel about that, tho. "Who is this new character and why do I care about him/her?" |
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Post by cerulione on Nov 13, 2018 13:29:08 GMT
On the whole Thedas turn into something without regular reality, Bad Future Redcliffe is already one no? We sees things floating on the sky, spirits getting out of no where.
What bugs me is that, if that is what really happens how the heck Solas didn't actually manage to do something to Corypheus already? Flemythal would do something, seriously. How can Solas end up in a cell in redcliffe castle???!
Hmm, good point. I guess that was a world where the hole in the Veil grew too big and sort of failed, but somehow I guess I had assumed that fully uninstalling the Veil would be different than it getting broken and becoming unstable. That the world before the Veil was more like what we saw in the Crossroads, with a little more solidity thrown in. But who knows. And, I guess Solas got captured in Redcliffe because he hadn't taken Mythal's power yet? But, yeah, why wouldn't Flemeth have done something; dunno. A common refrain, I think. Or, actually is it really "time magic" at all?
This is wild guess, butwhat if everything that happens in redcliffe is actually not the "real" Redcliffe in the "bad" future, it is simply it is not the future at all but a completely separate dimension created to manipulate the Quizzy and Dorian into taking certain actions? It is indeed the revelation in Here Lies the Abyss that gives the Quizzy an insight on assasination plot in Orlais. The Quizzy acted in consequence to anticipate Halamshiral's events in WEWH.
We know that the ancient elves are powerful enough to create a world in between the other world, as seen in the Crossroads of the Eluvians. Somewhere in the middle, somewhere in between the world that wakes and the world that dreams.
We think it is a bad "Future" because Dorian is persuaded it is so. But the power of suggestion is very strong. For a guy who spends possibly years working on very enticing magical theory with his mentor, of course his mind would jump to "this is the future!" subconsciously and I don't think it's difficult to manipulate him into believing that. Of course, since he believes that truly, Quizzy would also be easily persuaded since Dorian is supposed to know the theory (at least) and all "evidence" pointed so. Yet, the time they actually spend there isn't that long. It's not like they spend weeks or months on simple observation that possible discontinuities can be detected with critical eyes. Both Quizzy and Dorian are in "this is urgent!! Let's act NOW!" mode.
What if actually what the quizzy and Dorian sees in the "bad" future is simply a manipulation of the situation, where someone (possibly Flemythal?) simply creates a limited dimension with only Redcliffe Castle's decor in a world/dimension similar to a completely separate in between time? Dorian only guesses that they had travelled in time since he worked with the theory, but never actually saw it really happening.
What if Flemythal simply create a dimension with "fake" people in it, actors in the other world, either with spirits mimicking real people? We know spirits are capable of this, we had seen it in Here Lies the Abyss with the Divine and also in Champion of the Just with Lord Seeker Lucius, and Fiona in Val Royaux. Solas is already powerful enough before joining the Inquisition to manipulate a very powerful ancient Tevinter magister that creates the Venatori/Red Templar, Flemythal would probably be able to manipulate all this.
Hence, either a "real" Solas acting in the Bad Redcliffe Future, either a spirit mimicking Solas.
The goal of FLemythal is to play the chesspiece that is the Quizzy into following certain steps that finally would allow Solas to gain power to achieve what he needs to do, or at least what he thinks he needs to do.
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Post by cerulione on Nov 13, 2018 13:55:24 GMT
I vouch for dual protag!! 😆 So much this! If the game does let the Veil come down, then I bet it would have to be like that -- no big deal! But now everyone can use magic, and so old prejudices need to, ahem, realign. That would be fabulous! But probably the start of a new age. Magic Age?? LOL A Wizard Did It Age? I *do* so want the Evanuris freed and wreaking havoc, with only our PC and an uneasy alliance with Solas to stand in the way. I would also hope for a crisis of faith if it becomes widely known that "real" gods are now walking the earth, smashing all the elven mythologies. But, I hope the devs stick to their guns and never reveal the Maker as just some powerful dude running around Thedas marrying singing women. If ever they go with Andraste was once Mythal (or carries part of Mythal), I would be very much amused if the Maker is actually Elgarnan XD |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2018 16:45:14 GMT
I love this idea Agree; I would love this. And The Witcher 3 handled Geralt and Ciri as temporarily dual protagonists, so I suppose we could get a little. I do wonder, tho, how newbies to the series would feel about that, tho. "Who is this new character and why do I care about him/her?" I’m sure there would be a brief scene explaining each of the protagonists for new players. Bioware’s done that before with returning protagonists like Shepard. |
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 13, 2018 23:20:20 GMT
"A wizard did it Age" LOLOLOL... 😂 I thought that title has already been stolen by Solas 😆. I mean, he DID drastically changed the natural state of the world.. 😄
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".. [snip] I *do* so want the Evanuris freed and wreaking havoc, with only our PC and an uneasy alliance with Solas to stand in the way. I would also hope for a crisis of faith if it becomes widely known that "real" gods are now walking the earth, smashing all the elven mythologies. But, I hope the devs stick to their guns and never reveal the Maker as just some powerful dude running around Thedas marrying singing women.. "
Omg verymuch thiiiiis.
I guess the one thing I want is for Thedas to really witness and experience for REAL that Evanuris trully exist that no one can deny anymore.. and the world comes to know that the Veil is made by Fen'Harel not the Maker.
.. And something what Cerulion said about that Mythal and Andraste. Because I also found this codex of an old legend that says Andraste has the ability to 'sing' to dragons and callming them down.. (I think it was lying on some place in Crestwood near the dragon/healer quest) could be that they're connected. Or she could be the Maker's idea of a Dragonborn 😆
In this respect I wish to see how the Andrastrian faith changes to adapt. They got some things right (Blight) and some things not (Veil). I wonder if the Chantry will need to change some of it's canon and it will be interesting because now it's in the hands of the Divine we knew personally.
And lastly... about the veil being torn down completely.. I don't think many would like it if the world setting drastically changed and forces everyone to be 'mage' 😅. PROBABLY just create a dent big enough from on the veil for the rest of the Evanuris to do a jailbrake.
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 14, 2018 2:12:16 GMT
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"..[snip] Gosh it would be fun if Varric starts calling Cullen Mr [Insert Quizzy's Nickname] and for quizzy, Mrs Curly."
Juuust right after the wedding [Headcanon teritory]
Varric : "Sooo... Curly. How does it feels like to be the new nobility in Kirkwall? Your family is a big thing there, since your wife holds one of the Key to the city chain.." 😆
I'm not sure how Cullen will react to that 😅 but I can imagine my Hawk laughing it off with the rest of her crew 😁
As to HoF's fate.. I'm in for more stories about him/her, but not sure if the devs will go there except for a few text maybe (since HoFs are just widely diverse in their origin/game choices, I can imagine it can be a nightmare to try make a continuation out of that 😧)
My HoF is a seriouuusss Dalish guy and one whom Lavellan could relate well (looking at their origin and their duties. Plus, Leliana 😁) Would be cool however, if HoF / Hawk / IQ could meet in a way, but I'm not sure Thedas can survive their antics put together 😅
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And thanks for everyone's insight to the post tresspasser idea on Solas and stuff 😊 appreciate it.
Makes me want to hit the 'fastforwad' button and suddenly DA4 time already.
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 14, 2018 2:21:49 GMT
[/quote] If ever they go with Andraste was once Mythal (or carries part of Mythal), I would be very much amused if the Maker is actually Elgarnan XD [/quote] I'm not sure about Elgar'Nan being the Maker, but it will be highly amusing if what the Chantry believed to be 'the seat of the Maker' is just actually Elgar'nan's favourite chair 😁 At this point, my Inquizzy will just pat Cassandra in the back and tell her, "It's okay, buddy.. completely understand. The Dalish got many things wrong too concerning our history and such.." |
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Post by eliscous on Dec 4, 2018 9:52:35 GMT
A little question concerning Cullen's romance. He seems to be a very private man, not the kind of man to expose his personnal life in front of everybody so why in the hell did he kiss each time the Inquisitor on the battlements in front of every guards passing by?!! He is the one commanding these guards, he knows where they are. It always make me laugh because it seems so out of character. A side of him not well known.
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Post by R2s Muse on Dec 4, 2018 17:44:42 GMT
A little question concerning Cullen's romance. He seems to be a very private man, not the kind of man to expose his personnal life in front of everybody so why in the hell did he kiss each time the Inquisitor on the battlements in front of every guards passing by?!! He is the one commanding these guards, he knows where they are. It always make me laugh because it seems so out of character. A side of him not well known. LOL Yeah, it's pretty silly. I'm sure it's just because it's picturesque to hold the woo breaks on the battlements. Plus... I think I got walked in on more times in Cullen's office than on the battlements.  |
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 7, 2018 10:38:02 GMT
*snerks* He may not want people to 'talk' about it, but he made damn sure that everybody in Skyhold knows 😁
But other companions are guilty of the same thing too, I guess
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 7, 2018 10:46:40 GMT
*snerks* He may not want people to 'talk' about it, but he made damn sure that everybody in Skyhold knows 😁 But other companions are guilty of the same thing too, I guess Me thinks Cullen is just sick and tired of being cock blocked that when the Quizzy says: if you need to go he's like...oh no you don't! (then swoops in for that satisfying kiss )
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Post by Iddy on Dec 7, 2018 11:08:11 GMT
Do you think DAI Cullen still has any prejudice towards mages?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 7, 2018 11:19:46 GMT
Do you think DAI Cullen still has any prejudice towards mages? hm...good question
He's more adamant toward recruiting the Templars then he is the Mages, but I wouldn't say he's prejudiced towards mages perse  Hell, given the fact he can romance a mage...I'd say he's warming toward them again
and given the fact what he's been through during Origins and DA II...yeah, anyone would be prejudiced toward wacky people who go 'graah! I'm an abomination!', just a guess
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 7, 2018 13:29:06 GMT
Imagine having prejudice towards your wife 😆
And there's a specific romance dialogue where he regrets making a 'that kind of impression' to the IQ.
I think by the time of DAI he's just Andrastrian but holds little (or no) respect towards the Chantry.
I guess it just felt more natural for him to vouch for the Templars (since it's a territory very familiar to him and he knows what to expect).
Sometimes I think him joining the Inquisition is partly due to him being sick and tired about the whole Mage vs Templar war and sort of just 'F*** it, I'm out!'
You can hear it in his voice when the mages and templars of the Inquisition had a heated argument, how he resents being called on his former title (Knight Commander/Captain) and proceeds to tell them they are not Templars anymore.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 7, 2018 13:56:28 GMT
Imagine having prejudice towards your wife 😆 And there's a specific romance dialogue where he regrets making a 'that kind of impression' to the IQ. I think by the time of DAI he's just Andrastrian but holds little (or no) respect towards the Chantry. I guess it just felt more natural for him to vouch for the Templars (since it's a territory very familiar to him and he knows what to expect). Sometimes I think him joining the Inquisition is partly due to him being sick and tired about the whole Mage vs Templar war and sort of just 'F*** it, I'm out!' You can hear it in his voice when the mages and templars of the Inquisition had a heated argument, how he resents being called on his former title (Knight Commander/Captain) and proceeds to tell them they are not Templars anymore. I actually think he'd be very excited if he and the Quizzy were to have a kid who turns out to be a mage 
I think the dialogue you mean is in this vid, starting around 1.40
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Post by Catilina on Dec 7, 2018 14:01:00 GMT
Do you think DAI Cullen still has any prejudice towards mages? Absolutely. He sees the Inquisitor is an exception. He says in his romantic scene: "Whatever I fear of magic, I see none of that in you." But his love is a mage, just like the others. He have to work on his views yet. He works on it, but he should to try it harder. And the conversation in his office with a mage Inquisitor: |
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 7, 2018 14:16:08 GMT
Imagine having prejudice towards your wife 😆 And there's a specific romance dialogue where he regrets making a 'that kind of impression' to the IQ. I think by the time of DAI he's just Andrastrian but holds little (or no) respect towards the Chantry. I guess it just felt more natural for him to vouch for the Templars (since it's a territory very familiar to him and he knows what to expect). Sometimes I think him joining the Inquisition is partly due to him being sick and tired about the whole Mage vs Templar war and sort of just 'F*** it, I'm out!' You can hear it in his voice when the mages and templars of the Inquisition had a heated argument, how he resents being called on his former title (Knight Commander/Captain) and proceeds to tell them they are not Templars anymore. I actually think he'd be very excited if he and the Quizzy were to have a kid who turns out to be a mage
I think the dialogue you mean is in this vid, starting around 1.40
I love how kind and reassuring he is toward the Inquisitor Pretty much yes 😊 And then by Tresspasser, he decided to propose and "Lets just get married before the Exalted Council meeting starts".. 😆 I bet he knew marrying the IQ will cause waves (as confirmed by Cas) and he clearly doesn't give a damn. How very.. Ferelden of him 😆 |
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Post by cerulione on Dec 7, 2018 21:14:40 GMT
GUYS!! I'v just seen it!!! DRAGON AGE 4 TEASER!!! Gosh I wish he would be there too, or at least stay with his wife if he is out of screen. I don't want to see my wee little elf not with him after losing her clan |
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(when that guard interrupts them)
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