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Post by zeph on Mar 24, 2017 8:21:01 GMT
This was something I learned the hard way on ME3 and so far has worked now that i've started on ME:A MP.
Initially and I'm sure many have been or are continuing to do so, are focusing on purchasing gold and premium cases. Sure you get a high chance of getting rare or ultra-rare, but do you really want to take up those odds with so many common and uncommon items that can reduce your chances? Better your odds by thinning out the common and uncommon items (characters, weapons, mods) by purchasing basic crates (5k per) You unlock at least one maybe two commons and if you're lucky even an uncommon. Initially I was getting just commons but now that i am almost maxed out of common items, basic packs are now giving uncommon at a higher rate.
I expect, just like in ME3, that the basic crate will eventually become an exhausted resource only giving out supplies and boosters. With majority of maxed out common weapons and characters I've been able to play silver and gold with a high rate of success which in turn used to buy more basic crates. The idea is that by the time I begin purchasing silver crates I'll be able to unlock more uncommon items, maybe even gold at a higher rate, cheaper price and not worry about a common item taking up a slot.
In a nutshell, buy basic packs until common items are maxed out and begins giving you uncommon. Once uncommon is maxed out, I believe you will be able to unlock a gold item through the silver crate at a higher rate, etc. going up the crate list.
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Post by kruella1981 on Mar 24, 2017 8:27:44 GMT
Yep, but it's pretty dull to buy basic packs since there's so many blues. Advanced packs are better imo.
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Post by xianese on Mar 24, 2017 8:38:04 GMT
I've mostly been doing this - only bought one advanced crate, and received the other one from the tutorial reward. I got better items in my Basic Crates (more uncommons) than from the two advanced crates, so I'll likely keep this up until all common characters are unlocked, then move to Advanced Crates and so on.
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Post by kruella1981 on Mar 24, 2017 8:39:48 GMT
I've mostly been doing this - only bought one advanced crate, and received the other one from the tutorial reward. I got better items in my Basic Crates (more uncommons) than from the two advanced crates, so I'll likely keep this up until all common characters are unlocked, then move to Advanced Crates and so on. Hmm, maybe i've just been unlucky with my Basics. Guess i'll focus on that from now on then.
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Post by xianese on Mar 24, 2017 8:42:07 GMT
I've mostly been doing this - only bought one advanced crate, and received the other one from the tutorial reward. I got better items in my Basic Crates (more uncommons) than from the two advanced crates, so I'll likely keep this up until all common characters are unlocked, then move to Advanced Crates and so on. Hmm, maybe i've just been unlucky with my Basics. Guess i'll focus on that from now on then. It is hard to know exactly, but I've done probably 15 basic packs, and got plenty of uncommon items (compared to what I was expecting) yet the Advanced Crates gave me nothing neat.
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Post by zeph on Mar 24, 2017 8:57:47 GMT
Hmm, maybe i've just been unlucky with my Basics. Guess i'll focus on that from now on then. It is hard to know exactly, but I've done probably 15 basic packs, and got plenty of uncommon items (compared to what I was expecting) yet the Advanced Crates gave me nothing neat. Exactly! As you begin to max out your common items, more uncommon items will be unlocked just by purchasing basic. True, it is a grind but I am pursing the challenges so I'm not constantly swapping weapons. Max one out then i move to another. It also depends on the class you use. I started out with soldier class and utilized turbocharge skill...man what a lifesaver that skill was especially with such a low ranked weapon (M8) at the time. I eventually got to rank X M8 and have moved on to the cyclone and now the thorkin as I climb the challenege tree in assault rifles.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Mar 24, 2017 13:18:15 GMT
The underlying assumption is that once the common pool is exhausted, uncommons and rares wilk fill those spots.
In ME3 it just backfilled your packs with supplies, boosters n garbage. (omg another character card and 50k exp for a maxed out character? yaaaaasssssssss!)
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Post by smeckie on Mar 24, 2017 13:27:53 GMT
The underlying assumption is that once the common pool is exhausted, uncommons and rares wilk fill those spots. In ME3 it just backfilled your packs with supplies, boosters n garbage. (omg another character card and 50k exp for a maxed out character? yaaaaasssssssss!) I'd rather pull some tier two supplies and boosters from my advanced packs than some common gun, character. Same with the uncommon shit from my rare packs. That stuff is what is going to make Silver and Gold easier to survive.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Mar 24, 2017 13:36:00 GMT
It will not increase your rare/ultra rare drops from the packs. But you get the important weapon mods much faster, get a lot of supplies and consumables. Once you move on in terms of advanced packs, higher difficulties, you have enough items to speed up your games. No, using consumables will not make you a better skilled player (or a bad player), but games will finish faster, you can spend gels to revive yourself instead of waiting or worse, bleeding out during objective, without having to worry about running out of these things. Faster games = more games = more credits/time.
Simple math, yet so many people struggle. Of course, saving up for some premium packs to unlock some good weapons and then returning to cheaper packs is always a good idea.
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Post by Minuos on Mar 24, 2017 13:37:36 GMT
The common slot is filled by a consumable once maxed. Meaning that, if your commons are maxed, you'll mostly pull 5 blues from basic packs, with the occasional uncommon. Better to move up a tier.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Mar 24, 2017 13:46:01 GMT
It will not increase your rare/ultra rare drops from the packs. But you get the important weapon mods much faster, get a lot of supplies and consumables. Once you move on in terms of advanced packs, higher difficulties, you have enough items to speed up your games. No, using consumables will not make you a better skilled player (or a bad player), but games will finish faster, you can spend gels to revive yourself instead of waiting or worse, bleeding out during objective, without having to worry about running out of these things. Faster games = more games = more credits/time. Simple math, yet so many people struggle. Of course, saving up for some premium packs to unlock some good weapons and then returning to cheaper packs is always a good idea. Basically what I'm doing. Mostly doing basic packs for the consumable upgrades, mods, etc and occassionally buying a premium/advanced for a shot at somethin nifty (How the f*** do I still not have a single asari adept?)
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Post by smeckie on Mar 24, 2017 13:56:33 GMT
It will not increase your rare/ultra rare drops from the packs. But you get the important weapon mods much faster, get a lot of supplies and consumables. Once you move on in terms of advanced packs, higher difficulties, you have enough items to speed up your games. No, using consumables will not make you a better skilled player (or a bad player), but games will finish faster, you can spend gels to revive yourself instead of waiting or worse, bleeding out during objective, without having to worry about running out of these things. Faster games = more games = more credits/time. Simple math, yet so many people struggle. Of course, saving up for some premium packs to unlock some good weapons and then returning to cheaper packs is always a good idea. Basically what I'm doing. Mostly doing basic packs for the consumable upgrades, mods, etc and occassionally buying a premium/advanced for a shot at somethin nifty (How the f*** do I still not have a single asari adept?) Try advanced packs for the Asari Adept
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Post by luckystarr on Mar 24, 2017 14:31:29 GMT
if your commons are maxed, you'll mostly pull 5 blues from basic packs, with the occasional uncommon. Better to move up a tier. Is there a quick way to see the status of my unlocks? Like, how many commons are maxed and how many more are missing? Also, lately I've been getting almost exclusively consumables despite some commons still left (my Viper is stuck at VII), but I hope that's just randomness being its usual self.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Mar 24, 2017 15:00:46 GMT
if your commons are maxed, you'll mostly pull 5 blues from basic packs, with the occasional uncommon. Better to move up a tier. Is there a quick way to see the status of my unlocks? Like, how many commons are maxed and how many more are missing? Also, lately I've been getting almost exclusively consumables despite some commons still left (my Viper is stuck at VII), but I hope that's just randomness being its usual self. Prestige--> Collection ---> Filter (square button on ps4)
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Post by sosseres on Mar 24, 2017 15:47:45 GMT
Is there a quick way to see the status of my unlocks? Like, how many commons are maxed and how many more are missing? Also, lately I've been getting almost exclusively consumables despite some commons still left (my Viper is stuck at VII), but I hope that's just randomness being its usual self. Prestige--> Collection ---> Filter (square button on ps4) Thanks, according to that I have all commons unlocked and little else. Basic packs no longer drops anything but boosters on a normal buy. So uncommon chance isn't increased as far as I can tell, meaning I am buying advanced now. Will move to premium after uncommon are maxed out, expert doesn't seem worth it.
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Post by geek on Mar 24, 2017 17:01:59 GMT
I've been buying basic packs to try and get the base chracters to X for the skill points, as well as you get a lot more equipment.
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Post by zeph on Mar 24, 2017 17:12:36 GMT
The common slot is filled by a consumable once maxed. Meaning that, if your commons are maxed, you'll mostly pull 5 blues from basic packs, with the occasional uncommon. Better to move up a tier. Sure, occasional when you have many commons but now that it's almost maxed out? Nah!!! I've now been getting an uncommon with 4 blues back to back to back. Not one basic pack has been just consumables. Will it get to that point? I'm sure. But if i can continue to pull in an uncommon while I have other common items left sure. It will make it the odds better to get more uncommon and even gold from a silver crate.
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Post by rolenka on Mar 24, 2017 17:17:36 GMT
The underlying assumption is that once the common pool is exhausted, uncommons and rares wilk fill those spots. In ME3 it just backfilled your packs with supplies, boosters n garbage. (omg another character card and 50k exp for a maxed out character? yaaaaasssssssss!) Correct. The rarity is determined first, then the item. So if you get an uncommon item and have all uncommons maxed, you just get an uncommon booster, not a rare. However, many people max commons/uncommons first anyway because it makes it easier to complete missions, earning more credits faster so you can buy the more expensive packs. Most weapon mods are also common/uncommon, and they are essential.
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Post by sosseres on Mar 24, 2017 17:18:13 GMT
The common slot is filled by a consumable once maxed. Meaning that, if your commons are maxed, you'll mostly pull 5 blues from basic packs, with the occasional uncommon. Better to move up a tier. Sure, occasional when you have many commons but now that it's almost maxed out? Nah!!! I've now been getting an uncommon with 4 blues back to back to back. Not one basic pack has been just consumables. Will it get to that point? I'm sure. But if i can continue to pull in an uncommon while I have other common items left sure. It will make it the odds better to get more uncommon and even gold from a silver crate. I did three in a row with just consumables before moving up a tier. Had a total of like 6 uncommons after unclocking all commons. So your uncommon rate for it seems much higher than mine.
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Post by Minuos on Mar 24, 2017 17:58:14 GMT
Sure, occasional when you have many commons but now that it's almost maxed out? Nah!!! I've now been getting an uncommon with 4 blues back to back to back. Not one basic pack has been just consumables. Will it get to that point? I'm sure. But if i can continue to pull in an uncommon while I have other common items left sure. It will make it the odds better to get more uncommon and even gold from a silver crate. I did three in a row with just consumables before moving up a tier. Had a total of like 6 uncommons after unclocking all commons. So your uncommon rate for it seems much higher than mine. Same here. Had 15k left so spent it on basic packs to see what happened. All consumables.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 18:00:02 GMT
Been doing basic packs ... one upgrade left on common weapons, plus upgrades on common mods and characters. Now that the weapons are mostly done, expect to see more of the mods and characters. Will probably max the mods before characters ... but since character upgrades now have a performance element (even upgrades), I don't care. A fully evolved character only helps me ... and if I have a level one character with lots of its skill tree filled before I take it out ... no problem.
Once the commons are maxed, will go to the next level pack and repeat the process for uncommons. It's all good. By the time I get to the upper level packs, there should be some hint which is the best at giving out rare and UR weapons.
From what the devs said, unlike ME3MP, once a character is maxed out, you shouldn't get that card again ... unless there is some benefit. I take that to read that if you have a character at level 20, plus level X for cards, then that character's cards will not drop. But ... if you have a level X character, below level 20, you could still get a card for that character, for the added XP to work toward level up. So I intend to work through all my characters, get all of them to level 20. Sounds like a grind, but I think it will make me better in all the characters and by the time I get there, my RNG focus will probably be on Rare and UR weapons.
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Post by zeph on Mar 24, 2017 18:02:45 GMT
Been doing basic packs ... one upgrade left on common weapons, plus upgrades on common mods and characters. Now that the weapons are mostly done, expect to see more of the mods and characters. Will probably max the mods before characters ... but since character upgrades now have a performance element (even upgrades), I don't care. A fully evolved character only helps me ... and if I have a level one character with lots of its skill tree filled before I take it out ... no problem. Once the commons are maxed, will go to the next level pack and repeat the process for uncommons. It's all good. By the time I get to the upper level packs, there should be some hint which is the best at giving out rare and UR weapons. From what the devs said, unlike ME3MP, once a character is maxed out, you shouldn't get that card again ... unless there is some benefit. I take that to read that if you have a character at level 20, plus level X for cards, then that character's cards will not drop. But ... if you have a level X character, below level 20, you could still get a card for that character, for the added XP to work toward level up. So I intend to work through all my characters, get all of them to level 20. Sounds like a grind, but I think it will make me better in all the characters and by the time I get there, my RNG focus will probably be on Rare and UR weapons. Interesting. I've yet to get a repeat common character card X even though all of them are below level 20. Every basic crate I've opened has been a new item.
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Post by zeph on Mar 24, 2017 18:10:03 GMT
I did three in a row with just consumables before moving up a tier. Had a total of like 6 uncommons after unclocking all commons. So your uncommon rate for it seems much higher than mine. Same here. Had 15k left so spent it on basic packs to see what happened. All consumables. I was anticipating that would happen to me eventually but as sosseres pointed out, my uncommon rate for is higher. I only purchased around 10 silver crates since the trial and unlocked an assortment of colors but mostly commons which was irritating. With the basic crate, you're guaranteed one common, if you're lucky two. You may even get a common AND an uncommon.
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Post by xianese on Mar 25, 2017 5:30:23 GMT
Been doing basic packs ... one upgrade left on common weapons, plus upgrades on common mods and characters. Now that the weapons are mostly done, expect to see more of the mods and characters. Will probably max the mods before characters ... but since character upgrades now have a performance element (even upgrades), I don't care. A fully evolved character only helps me ... and if I have a level one character with lots of its skill tree filled before I take it out ... no problem. Once the commons are maxed, will go to the next level pack and repeat the process for uncommons. It's all good. By the time I get to the upper level packs, there should be some hint which is the best at giving out rare and UR weapons. From what the devs said, unlike ME3MP, once a character is maxed out, you shouldn't get that card again ... unless there is some benefit. I take that to read that if you have a character at level 20, plus level X for cards, then that character's cards will not drop. But ... if you have a level X character, below level 20, you could still get a card for that character, for the added XP to work toward level up. So I intend to work through all my characters, get all of them to level 20. Sounds like a grind, but I think it will make me better in all the characters and by the time I get there, my RNG focus will probably be on Rare and UR weapons. Interesting. I've yet to get a repeat common character card X even though all of them are below level 20. Every basic crate I've opened has been a new item. This is the same for me. I've only a few uncommon characters left (2 or 3 perhaps) and all my drops have been first time drops, no dupes of any sort.
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Post by zeph on Mar 25, 2017 6:44:05 GMT
Interestingly enough, I had two common items left before maxing out. While opening these basic kits, I kept getting uncommon cards until finally I got the remaining two in a single crate. After that, nothing but consumables were given.
I had a good run just buying basic kits. All my uncommon characters are rank V and up, while all my uncommon weapons are rank IV and below. No uncommon mods were unlocked.
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