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Post by saitamat56 on Mar 26, 2017 5:54:55 GMT
WTH!!! This game is pretty good almost like DA:I, Maybe even Better(except for those Dragons). I cant blv this has a rating lower than 5.0.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 26, 2017 5:57:20 GMT
My grandmother could review in Metacritic, and she's dead.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 26, 2017 5:58:55 GMT
WTH!!! This game is pretty good almost like DA:I, Maybe even Better(except for those Dragons). I cant blv this has a rating lower than 5.0. ...it does?
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Post by ayenari on Mar 26, 2017 6:21:48 GMT
Metacritic user review scores are incredibly unreliable for this very reason, along with how binary a lot of people's views on games are, where its either 10/10 or it's the worst trash ever made with no redeeming qualities at all. And then there's also the folks dropping politically charged "reviews" in an attempt to harm a developer they don't like, complaining about "SJWs" in it.
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Post by unwanted on Mar 26, 2017 6:35:11 GMT
Yeah, the user score on metacritic is grossly unfair and totally misleading. Any hate-plank can get on there and rock the boat. Luckily those that are web-wise and have a some interest check elsewhere when serious about purchase. If you take time to go though some older reviews of games you have had experience with, it quickly becomes clear how very wrong most of those metacritic reviews are.
We should have our own sticky poll/review, here on these forums. At least that would be somewhat accurate.
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 26, 2017 7:44:42 GMT
You're first mistake is putting any stock, in 2017, into metacritic user scores.
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Post by General Aetius on Mar 26, 2017 7:48:08 GMT
LOL since when is Metacritic a reliable review source?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 26, 2017 7:49:57 GMT
If only we could just have anything put on Metacritic to aggregate reviews for.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 7:57:57 GMT
Yeah, the user score on metacritic is grossly unfair and totally misleading. Any hate-plank can get on there and rock the boat. Luckily those that are web-wise and have a some interest check elsewhere when serious about purchase. If you take time to go though some older reviews of games you have had experience with, it quickly becomes clear how very wrong most of those metacritic reviews are. We should have our own sticky poll/review, here on these forums. At least that would be somewhat accurate. LoL - you think a poll on Bioware's official forums would be fair and balanced? Do you also work at Fox News? While metacritic has a lot of unrealistic 0's, there's also a ton of unrealistic 10's. There's nothing stopping people from loving the game from posting 10's. That's why it's averaging ~5. While it might be hard to believe, there's just as many people that dislike this game as those that like it. That's why the consensus overall is that this game is mediocre.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 26, 2017 8:03:57 GMT
As soon as the game went live on Metacritic the 0/10 reviews came flooding in. Most mention things like Bioware being racists, feminism ruining games or it looking like a PS3 game (what a joke!)
If you actually look, a ton of reviews are actually copy and pasted word for word with the same 0/10 score (suggesting the same person spamming multiple accounts to post the same reviews).
Ironically I read loads of 10/10 scored copy pasted word for word reviews for Zelda BoTW when that came out! I have no idea why people do it, it turns the entire system into a big joke.
There should be some way of verifying a purchase and being able to review.
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Post by rasande on Mar 26, 2017 8:22:16 GMT
The funny thing with this game is apparently, if you don't like it you fucking hate it. I mean review scores from professionals are all over the place, highest is like 95 and lowest is something like 40 on one of the consoles. But if you go on reddit there's little to no negativity about the game, which i rarely see. A lot of "i don't get why people hate this game, it's great" posts too.
Also besides all the legit reasons people may have for disliking it, there are the anti-bioware nutjob crowd that seems to have it in for them. As soon they were able, they were on there giving it 0's claiming SJW's had ruined another game, that you can't create a white character,that Liam sounds like Tupac and all sorts of ridiculous nonsense.
And then there's the fact that it's metacritic, and like YouTube commenters more than half of the people who bother don't have a higher IQ than the score they put it.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 26, 2017 8:40:16 GMT
I have started just ignoring most of the negative comments. I've asked so many times for someone to tell me what PS3 game they're all playing that looks better than ME Andromeda and yet everyone remains strangely silent 😂
I think many of the issues come from how Mass Effect straddles genres. On one hand it's an RPG from a celebrated RPG developer, with a pre generated fanbase of Bioware RPG fans. On the other hand it's also a shooter. It attracts an entirely new type of fan base with the shooter crowd. Pleasing both sides of the fanbase, who broadly speaking both enjoy vastly different sides of the game, is difficult.
RPG gamers often don't care about the combat, it's just something to get out of the way to get back to the story and characters and exploration. They will often say ME1 is the best one and their favourite of the trilogy. They love inventory systems, reading codex entries, and probably complained a lot about multiplayer being added, and the stripped down RPG mechanics of ME2 & 3 made them quite angry. They are often quite bad at the combat!
Shooter gamers usually either didn't play ME1, or tried it but didn't like it. The combat is very important to them, and they don't like slow pacing. They usually say ME2 or 3 was their favourite, and say things about ME1 and Andromeda like 'the inventory is ridiculous' or 'the crafting system is too complicated'. They often just select "mark all as read" on codex entries and happily ignore non essential side quests. They play solely on insanity because they like a challenge and the combat is far too easy for their godly shooting skills on lower difficulties.
I'm just speaking very generally and a bit jokingly here, but the fact is that Mass Effect does have two very different fan bases merged together who both want very different things from the game. I actually think Andromeda does a very good job at pleasing both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 8:44:50 GMT
You only need an account to rate something on Metacritic, same goes for Aamazon reviews aswell i believe. It is why some movies, and games gets what we called Metabombed! Fallout 4 did, had like a 1000 negative votes at the moment it launched. It silly that people don't have anything better to do. If you don't like something, write some constructive feedback and move on.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 8:45:28 GMT
The funny thing with this game is apparently, if you don't like it you fucking hate it. I mean review scores from professionals are all over the place, highest is like 95 and lowest is something like 40 on one of the consoles. But if you go on reddit there's little to no negativity about the game, which i rarely see. A lot of "i don't get why people hate this game, it's great" posts too. Also besides all the legit reasons people may have for disliking it, there are the anti-bioware nutjob crowd that seems to have it in for them. As soon they were able, they were on there giving it 0's claiming SJW's had ruined another game, that you can't create a white character,that Liam sounds like Tupac and all sorts of ridiculous nonsense. And then there's the fact that it's metacritic, and like YouTube commenters more than half of the people who bother don't have a higher IQ than the score they put it. If I had to guess, the younger the player, the more you'll like this game. The dialogue and plot is very twitter-esque. On par with text messages people send on phones, or fan-fiction in general. Love the game and don't see what all the hate is about = 25 and under. Skewing lower in age for people that LOVE it. The more post-secondary education you have, the more you'll dislike this game because you'll see just how poor the writing is. Anyone older than that, or old enough to have played Bioware games like BG and Neverwinter, I'd wager they're the ones that hate the game - because they've seen what Bioware was capable of before EA came along.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 8:49:10 GMT
You only need an account to rate something on Metacritic, same goes for Aamazon reviews aswell i believe. It is why some movies, and games gets what we called Metabombed! Fallout 4 did, had like a 1000 negative votes at the moment it launched. It silly that people don't have anything better to do. If you don't like something, write some constructive feedback and move on. Constructive feedback doesn't equate to shit for EA. Getting the word out that the game blows, metabombing, and posting vids on youtube - that's what gets EA's attention, because sales will be impacted. This is what, as a hater of the game, I want to happen. Because then the series will either die - and I won't have to see a series I love continue to get butchered, or EA and Bioware will spend more time and money on the next game, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH DA2 -> Inquisition.
I hope the latter happens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 8:49:59 GMT
You only need an account to rate something on Metacritic, same goes for Aamazon reviews aswell i believe. It is why some movies, and games gets what we called Metabombed! Fallout 4 did, had like a 1000 negative votes at the moment it launched. It silly that people don't have anything better to do. If you don't like something, write some constructive feedback and move on. Constructive feedback doesn't equate to shit for EA. Getting the word out that the game blows, metabombing, and posting vids on youtube - that's what gets EA's attention, because sales will be impacted. This is what, as a hater of the game, I want to happen. Because then the series will either die - and I won't have to see a series I love continue to get butchered, or EA and Bioware will spend more time and money on the next game, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH DA2 -> Inquisition.
I hope the latter happens.Yeah buzz off. I had enough with the negativity spewed on this forum. You said your piece a thousand times over already.
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Post by warrior116 on Mar 26, 2017 8:58:28 GMT
But DAI is crap! Andromeda is better but not 10/10 max 7/10
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 26, 2017 9:12:57 GMT
[If I had to guess, the younger the player, the more you'll like this game. The dialogue and plot is very twitter-esque. On par with text messages people send on phones, or fan-fiction in general.
Love the game and don't see what all the hate is about = 25 and under. Skewing lower in age for people that LOVE it. The more post-secondary education you have, the more you'll dislike this game because you'll see just how poor the writing is.
Anyone older than that, or old enough to have played Bioware games like BG and Neverwinter, I'd wager they're the ones that hate the game - because they've seen what Bioware was capable of before EA came along. [/quote]
Swing and a miss! I've played and completed every Bioware game since Baldur's Gate; NWN, KOTOR, Jade Empire, I am also (sadly) quite a bit older than 25, though vain enough to not want to say by how much haha, and despite your assumptions that gamers who love Andromeda must therefore be hopelessly uneducated (charming!) I assure you I am far from ignorant. 👍🏻
You disliking the game is your right, but it is quite horribly rude to make sweeping judgements like that about everyone else who doesn't share your opinion.
I do LOVE Andromeda, in a way I didn't actually love ME 2 or 3. That doesn't mean I am wrong because I am too young to know better, or too ignorant to recognise why it's bad. Be kind 🙂
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 9:16:24 GMT
Constructive feedback doesn't equate to shit for EA. Getting the word out that the game blows, metabombing, and posting vids on youtube - that's what gets EA's attention, because sales will be impacted. This is what, as a hater of the game, I want to happen. Because then the series will either die - and I won't have to see a series I love continue to get butchered, or EA and Bioware will spend more time and money on the next game, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH DA2 -> Inquisition.
I hope the latter happens.Yeah buzz off. I had enough with the negativity spewed on this forum. You said your piece a thousand times over already. Don't think you read my post. Here, I'll try using dialogue akin to that found in the game. OMG bro, don't you get it? God! It's all the stuff in the bold, man! Just path-find your way down to the bold font, k? Like, whatever. Yeah! TLDR: Read the bolded part, bro. Ryder out. PS: Maybe your face is tired?
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 9:22:06 GMT
[If I had to guess, the younger the player, the more you'll like this game. The dialogue and plot is very twitter-esque. On par with text messages people send on phones, or fan-fiction in general. Love the game and don't see what all the hate is about = 25 and under. Skewing lower in age for people that LOVE it. The more post-secondary education you have, the more you'll dislike this game because you'll see just how poor the writing is. Anyone older than that, or old enough to have played Bioware games like BG and Neverwinter, I'd wager they're the ones that hate the game - because they've seen what Bioware was capable of before EA came along. Swing and a miss! I've played and completed every Bioware game since Baldur's Gate; NWN, KOTOR, Jade Empire, I am also (sadly) quite a bit older than 25, though vain enough to not want to say by how much haha, and despite your assumptions that gamers who love Andromeda must therefore be hopelessly uneducated (charming!) I assure you I am far from ignorant. 👍🏻 You disliking the game is your right, but it is quite horribly rude to make sweeping judgements like that about everyone else who doesn't share your opinion. I do LOVE Andromeda, in a way I didn't actually love ME 2 or 3. That doesn't mean I am wrong because I am too young to know better, or too ignorant to recognise why it's bad. Be kind 🙂 #notanaivethicko (because you love Twitter so much 😜😂)[/quote] We'll agree to disagree. I think you're an outlier, and while I agree I shouldn't lump everyone in the same boat, I still think that players who have more of a history playing Bioware games will be the ones who are the most upset, because they've seen what Bioware has become. There's a reason why this game is hovering around the low 70's, after-all.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 26, 2017 9:32:52 GMT
Around 25 hours played, around 20% of the game completed. I'll be giving a review when I've finished.
'1's and '0's were posted within minutes of the game being launched.
The user score is drifting upwards because folk are posting who have actually played the game. It was at 3.6 average on launch day, it's drifted up to 4.5 after 5 days...
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Post by handduken on Mar 26, 2017 9:39:05 GMT
We need something similiar to steam user reviews for this game, in other words people have to own the game in order to post a review and they are limited to only posting recommended or not recommended.
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Post by Kantr on Mar 26, 2017 9:46:56 GMT
We need something similiar to steam user reviews for this game, in other words people have to own the game in order to post a review and they are limited to only posting recommended or not recommended. Steam reviews aren't great ether. They also now take away from people who got the game as a key. Plus y'know steam is just one area of where a game is played
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Post by guanxi on Mar 26, 2017 10:18:56 GMT
In my opinion metacritic user reviews should be like rotten tomatoes - either positive or negative which would eliminate the meta-bombing with zeros. Feedback should be limited to 255 characters and prioritized by pluses and negatives given the sheer volume to sift through.
Long term users who obtain a certain threshold of likes could be rewarded with more characters for editorial length reviews which would incentivize people to think more carefully about the content of their posts.
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Post by shechinah on Mar 26, 2017 10:52:13 GMT
This is what, as a hater of the game, I want to happen. Because then the series will either die - and I won't have to see a series I love continue to get butchered, or EA and Bioware will spend more time and money on the next game, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH DA2 -> Inquisition.
I hope the latter happens. If you feel Mass Effect is being "butchered" and do not want to see that then why don't you just, you know, stop watching? Don't pay attention to anything in regards to it? Let it go and keep to the forums for the other games? Why not do this instead of hoping other people won't be able to enjoy more games that they love of a series that they love as well? That's what I did with Saints Row. Wanting a series to die just because you personally don't enjoy it anymore is just selfish, to be honest, especially when a lot of people still enjoy it.
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