EA, let me help you, here is how you save the Mass Effect franchise.

Unless "destination" means "inhabitable world." The confirmed number of those outside our own system is still zero

Exoplanet Archive Details

Exoplanet.Org Sample Chart (click any you like)

Here's an example of some of the established details of a famous exoplanet, Trappist 1-D

Some planets have been imaged, including those in the second list I provided. Many have had their density and atmosphere measured. We know a lot more about exoplanets than you believe we do.

Real places don't matter. Idaho is a real place but no one wants to go there. I want to go back to Virmire.

Trappist 1-d made a good example because of its fame.* The list I provided was drawn from the imaged planets. I provided the tools for you to check the sources. You could have, for example, looked for search criteria using exoplanets with measured density. Considering the amount of information provided and searchable in the links, it would be very ridiculous to reject that data on the basis that a single example didn't have information you were looking for.

As far as whether it is a good idea to base planets or systems on real ones, I didn't weigh in on that. It is irrelevant to any point I made, as is whether those planets are inhabitable. Many planets in Mass Effect could be explored that weren't habitable.

There are thousands of potential candidates that could be used in-game. Whether anyone wants to do that is up to them - I honestly don't care. I backed up my stated facts with more than enough data.

I repeat to you as well: We know a great deal more about exoplanets than you believe we do.


*"Astronomers first discovered three Earth-sized planets orbiting the dwarf star in 2015. A team led by Michaël Gillon (fr) at the University of Liège in Belgium detected the planets using transit photometry with the Transiting Planets and Planetesimals Small Telescope (TRAPPIST) at the La Silla Observatory in Chile.[15][8][16] On 22 February 2017, astronomers announced four additional exoplanets around TRAPPIST-1. This work used the NASA Spitzer Space Telescope and the Very Large Telescope at Paranal, among others, and brought the total number of planets to seven, of which three are considered to be within its habitable zone.[17] The others could also be habitable as they may possess liquid water somewhere on their surface.[18][19][20]"

^ Also that.

Man, I do like Andromeda, but really - there's nothing in that game that gets anywhere close to the leaving Earth sequence in ME3, and that's the start of the game. Remembering it has me wanting to go through that experience again, something MEA also fails.

Don't know what happened, BioWare had this amazing premise, but barely achieved anything that can cause goosebumps again, instead we get Liam shooting a dead alien like there's no tomorrow during first contact, because that happens often.

Yeah, that's literally what the two of you were disputing.



The planets are not "made up," the facts are not "made up" and the science isn't "made up."

No, I'm not.

I repeat: The planets are not made up, and the science isn't made up. It is real. Exoplanets are real.

Okay, never mind. This is pointless.

When this started, I actually didn't think it would be a good idea to base a space exploration game on current milky way exoplanet data. I was arguing science facts against confirmation biases that reject science. Which was my mistake.

But I've switched positions.

Now I say ONLY confirmed exoplanet data should be used! And all systems should be called Trappist!

WHERE'S YOUR VOL-CLAN NOW TRAPEZOID DENIZEN HMMM!? ;D

I'm sorry, but the worlds in mass effect are not real/imaginery apart from our own solar system, so it's not a huge step to use worlds identified by NASA and exagerate their environments is it?

also... no reboot.  Continue the universe AFTER the reapers have been defeated.  Still 99% of the Milky Way unexplored.

I beg to differ. It would be a better idea to play back stories to get to know Shepard how he/she rose to the Alliance military, and about his/her early life firsthand so that way we could connect with the character more. Also they should rewrite the girl @ the Citadel who escaped from slavers, and Shepard recognized her as her childhood friend, but she lost her memory during the trauma she had to go through. They should redesign her to look like she's been through all the trauma and horror like bloodied scars all over, looked skinny from malnutrition, and red eyes to to reflect that character. This would be the perfect opportunity for an emotional story of Shepard's past, and not so dry and boring original version on ME1.

One thing I am a little confused on and maybe someone can help me understand. Why the attachment to the Milky Way? For if we just said that The Citadel Races took a 600 year trip in the Milky Way to an area that could not be reached by the Relay Network and that system just happens to be called Heleus is it really that different then going to Andromeda?