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Post by Scathane on Dec 11, 2017 10:07:01 GMT
The English language is filled with words that describe things, not the actual thing itself... *snip* I'm reminded of that one movie where a girl has cancer, and near the end she's wearing a t-shirt that says "This not a" and then a picture of a pipe. The entire point being that it's picture of a pipe, instead of the pipe itself. While it's true, it's a technicality. It's from The Treachery of Images, a well-known painting by René Magritte...
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 11, 2017 16:47:38 GMT
Some interesting debating here, without doubt.
I'm new to this forum, but not to ME and I am somewhat saddened to see MEA in the bargain basket already, but is is not completely undeserved. I do not believe the critics were fair with the game and ultimately that was its marketing end, but the game itself (I will be kind) was a missed opportunity on the part of Bioware.
To get to the point of soul, not sure that is the right word to describe a game, but it is accurate that despite the technology that went into MEA, something in the story and the delivery impacted the level of the PLAYER's engagement and immersion into the narrative. Though the writers did make Ryder a little more human than Shep, they went a little to far, as many have pointed out. But this is an easy fix, if you want to write a follow-up.
The real issue here is, does EA and by extension Bioware, still have any interest in moving the story forward? OR is MEA the death of our beloved Mass Effect? To that I would say, we the fans have allot to say about that. EA works for money ... our money ... and if they believe that a new and better ME can be profitable, that will be the incentive. As for Bioware, I think they are still very much believers, but they now have EA masters.
To produce a new ME (not a remix, because that is the easy way out) that addresses the current shortcomings (this could be along debate so will keep it short); (1) move the timeline forward to the next generation to change the characters (and don't mess it up this time), and (2) ensure the narrative respects the writing quality of our traditional ME (Bioware actually) standards.
Bioware does have the professionals to get this done and the fan base to support it. This is a question of will, not capacity. Do we care enough to push and do they care enough to create it? My 2 cents Canadian ..... lol
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 11, 2017 17:36:33 GMT
MEA: Does this video game have a soul?
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Post by Superhik on Dec 11, 2017 17:44:22 GMT
SofNascimento...a man on a mission to save EA from themselves. The look of CEO's face when he reads this.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 13, 2017 1:41:18 GMT
So Andromeda became a joke, isn't selling well and its lasting lagacy will be of a broken game. Not much you can do about that now, but the good news is there is hope for Mass Effect, EA. Hope inthe form of glorious remaster. Pick the trilogy up, remaster it in 4k and 60fps (or even 30 depending on the console), release it with all DLCs and more important than that CHANGE THE ENDINGS. Yes. That's the only way ME can come back from the grave. If it was up to me, there wouldn't have been a Extended Cut, I actually don't download it and my canon endings for ME3 are the original, but this isn't about me, well, it kinda is, it's about Mass Effect and how awesome it was and how it doesn't deserve to die like this. Rework the whole of priority Earth, make it the Suicide Mission 2.0 it should have been, and make the ending more pleasant. Let people be happy. Talk with Casey Hudson, he is an extremely talented developer, I'm sure he will agree with this. Maybe you can even keep the Starchild and the Reaper nonsense, people would have forgiven it if the aftermath was brighter. They would have then it will still do now. Best part is that this won't cost that much money and you even ask full price (just remember, ALL DLCs!). Do this very simple task right and ME will be back in strength. Then, you give Mass Effect to a very talented group of people and let them decide where to go from there. Easy peasy. Remasters the biggest waste of money in video games. I already got the MET on Xbox 360 and on Xbox One why would I want to spend money on a game that I can play on 4 systems (Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3 and if I want to completely debase myself I can play it on PC) with little difficulty, the 4K stuff is worthless to me and is at best minor graphically improvements that easily disappear after a while the framerate doesn't bother unless it drops like it does all the fucking time in ME1. Frankly if you want a new ending to ME3 then you have to remake the whole trilogy and fix the overall story of the whole trilogy that is the only way you can fix the damn endings but you have to fix the whole story before you can fix the endings. Personally I want ME:A2 because I want to franchise to move FORWARD not backwards which all a remaster and a remake are going backwards and no franchise will survive being stuck in reverse.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 13, 2017 9:49:38 GMT
So Andromeda became a joke, isn't selling well and its lasting lagacy will be of a broken game. Not much you can do about that now, but the good news is there is hope for Mass Effect, EA. Hope inthe form of glorious remaster. Pick the trilogy up, remaster it in 4k and 60fps (or even 30 depending on the console), release it with all DLCs and more important than that CHANGE THE ENDINGS. Yes. That's the only way ME can come back from the grave. If it was up to me, there wouldn't have been a Extended Cut, I actually don't download it and my canon endings for ME3 are the original, but this isn't about me, well, it kinda is, it's about Mass Effect and how awesome it was and how it doesn't deserve to die like this. Rework the whole of priority Earth, make it the Suicide Mission 2.0 it should have been, and make the ending more pleasant. Let people be happy. Talk with Casey Hudson, he is an extremely talented developer, I'm sure he will agree with this. Maybe you can even keep the Starchild and the Reaper nonsense, people would have forgiven it if the aftermath was brighter. They would have then it will still do now. Best part is that this won't cost that much money and you even ask full price (just remember, ALL DLCs!). Do this very simple task right and ME will be back in strength. Then, you give Mass Effect to a very talented group of people and let them decide where to go from there. Easy peasy. Remasters the biggest waste of money in video games. I already got the MET on Xbox 360 and on Xbox One why would I want to spend money on a game that I can play on 4 systems (Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3 and if I want to completely debase myself I can play it on PC) with little difficulty, the 4K stuff is worthless to me and is at best minor graphically improvements that easily disappear after a while the framerate doesn't bother unless it drops like it does all the fucking time in ME1. Frankly if you want a new ending to ME3 then you have to remake the whole trilogy and fix the overall story of the whole trilogy that is the only way you can fix the damn endings but you have to fix the whole story before you can fix the endings. Personally I want ME:A2 because I want to franchise to move FORWARD not backwards which all a remaster and a remake are going backwards and no franchise will survive being stuck in reverse. I don't see the point of a remaster. I got a few but only because they gave it to me for free since I already had the original. For me with the MET on PS3 and on PC a remaster would serve no purpose at all. As much as I really believe in moving the graphical part of games forward and find the looks important I have never even bothered with modding my ME1 up anyway. But I guess I may be in minority there? I don't know, I think ME1 is great anyway. Onwards and upwards is the way to go. Establish the MW presence in Heleus.
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Post by mannyray on Dec 13, 2017 13:15:55 GMT
Ah, the standard template continues.
1)Cite the bad writing, come up with ideas even worse than what was presented in the actual game (see "omgz move bk 2 teh MW LOLOLOL)
2)Ignore the fact a trilogy remaster wouldn't be profitable.
3)Act like a whole new protagonist will fix everything.
4)screaming and crying.
Oh, and on the more constructive front, "soul" in a story driven game to me anyway indicates the characters have some real texture to them and the player/viewer can, at least within the context given, understand the choices made (whether agreed with or not) and there is attention to the details of how actual people may react in the game's situations. ME:A lacks soul in part because too many times we get contrived oneliners or childlike kiddie dialogue that looks randomly thrown in for the sake of "joke here," and the player doesn't have enough latitude to shape the protagonist's personality in too many situations. A game with "soul" may be far from perfect, but you get the human touches mentioned above, as in most parts of the ME Trilogy. Hell, soul carried ME2 beyond it's mundane shooter roots.
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Post by cypherj on Dec 13, 2017 13:57:04 GMT
Andromeda would have been much better off having you come into the outskirts of the new galaxy and run into races from an already established galactic community who were also expanding into the Helius Cluster. Then you would have had to engage in politics, learn about new races and their customs, strike alliances, make enemies, and still find a place to start your colonies, on the undiscovered planets. Would have been awesome.
One thing that we never got in the OT was seeing how it was when humans first went through the relay, and discovered the vast galaxy. Had first contact with the Turians, met the council races and became the upstarts of the galaxy. We came in after all of that. We could have gotten that kind experience here, and the game was set up for it.
This would have also given back that feeling of discovery you had in ME1. You met all the new races, saw the Citadel for the first time, learned about all of the history like the rachni war, the krogan uprising, the genophage, the morning war, etc. You took in a lot it during the first game, and it was all new and exciting. Andromeda in comparison for it to have been a blank slate to give any story and history they wanted came across pretty shallow on that front.
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 13, 2017 15:23:31 GMT
For me, the future (if there is one) for Mass Effect is looking forward, not back. What is ... is .. .and can't be changed!
There is obvious entertainment value in debating what was and why of games past. But for the community to truly influence the future of the franchise, if it is to have one, is to put our energies into focusing on where we go from here by taking what we have and building on it.
One of the common complaints that I read here is how weak (lack of soul, how ever you want to express it) MEA had, in comparison to the trilogy. That is a "can of worms" in and of itself, but MEA was not short on details, though it lack cohesion to have the desired plot impact that contributes to that lasting " I am part of this adventure" experience.
So, rather than tearing that old scab off yet again (as fun as that may be for some), what if we could spin this void into a positive? What if we look at the Andromeda System as a continued blank slate, just waiting for the right creative juices to combine efforts? Turn all of this negative into a positive and hit EA where it hurts, given we are the ones that put food on their tables as customers. This GAME CAN MAKE MONEY IF YOU DO IT RIGHT EA!!!
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 13, 2017 15:26:37 GMT
A taste of what could be?
CENTER STORY – Context behind Inferno within the Andromeda trilogy
For context, INFERNO takes place 25-years after ANDROMEDA. The story premise is that there are a number of races known as the Titans throughout the universe, to which the Jardaan are one. These Titans are civilization builders with the capacity to genetically create life and master build planets and star systems, like children play with blocks and clay, to meet their own agendas.
Though we will not get the sense of how many Titan races exist in the universe or the real extent of their domains until later in the series, there are two that will become central to INFERNO, the Jardaan who create seed worlds so that life will flourish for the same reason that humans breed cattle, and the ISHANNY Collective who see the planets that they seed as a form of “mad science” to create the perfect gene pool to add to their own perception of perfection and ultimately protect their own continued viability as a species . Both the Jardaan and the ISHANNY are mortal enemies and compete for control within their known space for seed planets to meet their own objectives. We have already seen the impact of this conflict in Andromeda with the retreat of the Jardaan from the Heleus Cluster once the ISHANNY launched its most destructive but flawed weapon that we now know as the scourge.
The scourge had two intended objectives, the first being the direct disruption of Jardaan technology to halt their viability progress on the planets of Heleus. The second objective was to act as an area denial weapon, similar to a mine field, to disrupt Jardaan travel in Heleus space. The introduction of scourge energy impedes Jardaan technology, as it directly disrupts flow to their quantum star drives.
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 13, 2017 15:35:21 GMT
I know ... I will hear all about the fledgling fan writing .... blahh blahh blahh! But I am on page 185 of pitch that I am really treating as a hobby project. That said, it can always use great ideas from the experts ... being the fans!
That said, if the community can actually band together with a voice, our game dollars speak volumes to companies like EA, who are all about the bottom line. I've seen them take down some very talented studios that just didn't cross the magic profit target required to stay alive. My fear is that Bioware will be next, as I have little hope for Anthem the Destiny clone!
So, if we have any hope of seeing Mass Effect survive past Andromeda and their other staple products like Dragon Age, Bioware will need some help with having a pitch and strong fan base support petitioning EA. My personal 2-cents, for what it s worth.
I know that these 3-posts will tempt the best of haters, but it would be really encouraging to get some positive insights. Either in advancing the narrative, or having positive impact on getting Bioware back on Mass Effect track.
If this is a hobby project that interest you, PM me, as I would love to get a few collaborators in on this. Will it go anywhere, I have no illusions of greatness here. So maybe this is just a fun thing to do. But one thing is for sure, nothing will happen if we do nothing.
YES I AM CANADIAN ... WE ALWAYS HAVE HOPE!!!! LOL ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE SUPPORTING OUR OWN!
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 13, 2017 16:36:53 GMT
Remasters the biggest waste of money in video games. I already got the MET on Xbox 360 and on Xbox One why would I want to spend money on a game that I can play on 4 systems (Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3 and if I want to completely debase myself I can play it on PC) with little difficulty, the 4K stuff is worthless to me and is at best minor graphically improvements that easily disappear after a while the framerate doesn't bother unless it drops like it does all the fucking time in ME1. Frankly if you want a new ending to ME3 then you have to remake the whole trilogy and fix the overall story of the whole trilogy that is the only way you can fix the damn endings but you have to fix the whole story before you can fix the endings. Personally I want ME:A2 because I want to franchise to move FORWARD not backwards which all a remaster and a remake are going backwards and no franchise will survive being stuck in reverse. I don't see the point of a remaster. I got a few but only because they gave it to me for free since I already had the original. For me with the MET on PS3 and on PC a remaster would serve no purpose at all. As much as I really believe in moving the graphical part of games forward and find the looks important I have never even bothered with modding my ME1 up anyway. But I guess I may be in minority there? I don't know, I think ME1 is great anyway. Onwards and upwards is the way to go. Establish the MW presence in Heleus. You might not like remasters, but they are certainly economically viable. Otherwise we wouldn't see so many of them. Moreover, Andromeda didn't move the series foward. It dug a grave. And a direct sequel to it would just make the hole deeper.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 13, 2017 17:16:35 GMT
I don't see the point of a remaster. I got a few but only because they gave it to me for free since I already had the original. For me with the MET on PS3 and on PC a remaster would serve no purpose at all. As much as I really believe in moving the graphical part of games forward and find the looks important I have never even bothered with modding my ME1 up anyway. But I guess I may be in minority there? I don't know, I think ME1 is great anyway. Onwards and upwards is the way to go. Establish the MW presence in Heleus. You might not like remasters, but they are certainly economically viable. Otherwise we wouldn't see so many of them. Moreover, Andromeda didn't move the series foward. It dug a grave. And a direct sequel to it would just make the hole deeper. Sure it would.
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Post by mindw0rk on Dec 13, 2017 18:42:44 GMT
Im not sure why they dont redo ME trilogy in HD. THere are millions of ME fans, alot of them asked for it. New generation of gamers would appreciate more modern version. Yeah, it will be hard work, but there is huge interest in ME trilogy redux. So why keep ignoring it?
Also I dont think redux of trilogy would "save" series. It will just be a great return to epic adventure. But old adventure. For the future they need to make a new game and I think franchise is just begging to become an MMO. Not some stupid quest grind like SWToR. But a game with heavy focus on exploration
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 13, 2017 18:47:58 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that.
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Post by mindw0rk on Dec 13, 2017 21:10:47 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that. You compare it to shitty MMOs. Think of Mass Effect that has everything what made trilogy good, but more massive and with real people to team up with for exploring
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 13, 2017 21:29:09 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that. You compare it to shitty MMOs. Think of Mass Effect that has everything what made trilogy good, but more massive and with real people to team up with for exploring It would probably just end up as a Destiny clone.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 13, 2017 21:35:19 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that. Thanks, I am gonna have nightmares now after reading that. Fucking MMOs...
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 13, 2017 22:16:26 GMT
Im not sure why they dont redo ME trilogy in HD. THere are millions of ME fans, alot of them asked for it. New generation of gamers would appreciate more modern version. Yeah, it will be hard work, but there is huge interest in ME trilogy redux. So why keep ignoring it? Also I dont think redux of trilogy would "save" series. It will just be a great return to epic adventure. But old adventure. For the future they need to make a new game and I think franchise is just begging to become an MMO. Not some stupid quest grind like SWToR. But a game with heavy focus on exploration Co-op Multiplayer! Now we are talking the future of ME my friend, true to RPG roots. This is Mass Effect, not Call of Duty (a just threw up in my mouth just typing it). Whats next ... zombies ..... oooops did that ... arrrrggggg!!!!! lol Imagine being able to play the entire game (as an option, not mandatory), or a mission, with your friends. Mining, story hunting, a little stealth, a little strategy, hopefully better puzzles and of course good old ME 3rd person shoot'em up. Wrapped up with awesome graphics and sound, a real story and characters that you can really get into! Beauty of a new game ... blank slate! Be all you can be! lol A redux, same game I already played god knows how many times, with prettier pictures. NEW GAME!!!! Besides, EA will never support a redux, because they can't apply their !@#$ pay as you go ... rip off formula!
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 13, 2017 22:52:59 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that. You compare it to shitty MMOs. Think of Mass Effect that has everything what made trilogy good, but more massive and with real people to team up with for exploring Eww real people.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 13, 2017 23:05:31 GMT
If ME becomes an MMO, I can finally consider it actually and completely dead, because to hell with that. You compare it to shitty MMOs. Think of Mass Effect that has everything what made trilogy good, but more massive and with real people to team up with for exploring except most of the things that the trilogy (or Andromeda) did well is normally out of the range of what mmos are capable of. Making it so you have to accommodate literally thousands of heroes makes it next to impossible to bring the great Character or story elements bioware is known for.
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Post by thedarkprince on Dec 14, 2017 1:50:21 GMT
Some interesting debating here, without doubt. I'm new to this forum, but not to ME and I am somewhat saddened to see MEA in the bargain basket already, but is is not completely undeserved. I do not believe the critics were fair with the game and ultimately that was its marketing end, but the game itself (I will be kind) was a missed opportunity on the part of Bioware. To get to the point of soul, not sure that is the right word to describe a game, but it is accurate that despite the technology that went into MEA, something in the story and the delivery impacted the level of the PLAYER's engagement and immersion into the narrative. Though the writers did make Ryder a little more human than Shep, they went a little to far, as many have pointed out. But this is an easy fix, if you want to write a follow-up. The real issue here is, does EA and by extension Bioware, still have any interest in moving the story forward? OR is MEA the death of our beloved Mass Effect? To that I would say, we the fans have allot to say about that. EA works for money ... our money ... and if they believe that a new and better ME can be profitable, that will be the incentive. As for Bioware, I think they are still very much believers, but they now have EA masters. To produce a new ME (not a remix, because that is the easy way out) that addresses the current shortcomings (this could be along debate so will keep it short); (1) move the timeline forward to the next generation to change the characters (and don't mess it up this time), and (2) ensure the narrative respects the writing quality of our traditional ME (Bioware actually) standards. Bioware does have the professionals to get this done and the fan base to support it. This is a question of will, not capacity. Do we care enough to push and do they care enough to create it? My 2 cents Canadian ..... lol EA made it pretty damn clear that they don't care about any single player titles. They plan is to push this games as service bullshit, thus a bunch of multiplayer games that they can milk fans with tons of microtransaction.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 14, 2017 6:14:42 GMT
Im not sure why they dont redo ME trilogy in HD. THere are millions of ME fans, alot of them asked for it. New generation of gamers would appreciate more modern version. Yeah, it will be hard work, but there is huge interest in ME trilogy redux. So why keep ignoring it? Because they'd decide to do it in Frostbite and that would be disastrous.
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 14, 2017 9:46:58 GMT
Im not sure why they dont redo ME trilogy in HD. THere are millions of ME fans, alot of them asked for it. New generation of gamers would appreciate more modern version. Yeah, it will be hard work, but there is huge interest in ME trilogy redux. So why keep ignoring it? Because they'd decide to do it in Frostbite and that would be disastrous. A remaster would certainly be in the same engine. Changing the engine would be closer to a Remake which although awesome in theory, I don't see the possibility of that happening. And it's possible that the fact the trilogy is more linear than Andromeda (even ME1), might make it easier to work with Frostbyte, which is powerful engine, regardless of how difficulty it is to work with it.
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Post by uprightshark on Dec 14, 2017 12:00:23 GMT
Some interesting debating here, without doubt. I'm new to this forum, but not to ME and I am somewhat saddened to see MEA in the bargain basket already, but is is not completely undeserved. I do not believe the critics were fair with the game and ultimately that was its marketing end, but the game itself (I will be kind) was a missed opportunity on the part of Bioware. To get to the point of soul, not sure that is the right word to describe a game, but it is accurate that despite the technology that went into MEA, something in the story and the delivery impacted the level of the PLAYER's engagement and immersion into the narrative. Though the writers did make Ryder a little more human than Shep, they went a little to far, as many have pointed out. But this is an easy fix, if you want to write a follow-up. The real issue here is, does EA and by extension Bioware, still have any interest in moving the story forward? OR is MEA the death of our beloved Mass Effect? To that I would say, we the fans have allot to say about that. EA works for money ... our money ... and if they believe that a new and better ME can be profitable, that will be the incentive. As for Bioware, I think they are still very much believers, but they now have EA masters. To produce a new ME (not a remix, because that is the easy way out) that addresses the current shortcomings (this could be along debate so will keep it short); (1) move the timeline forward to the next generation to change the characters (and don't mess it up this time), and (2) ensure the narrative respects the writing quality of our traditional ME (Bioware actually) standards. Bioware does have the professionals to get this done and the fan base to support it. This is a question of will, not capacity. Do we care enough to push and do they care enough to create it? My 2 cents Canadian ..... lol EA made it pretty damn clear that they don't care about any single player titles. They plan is to push this games as service bullshit, thus a bunch of multiplayer games that they can milk fans with tons of microtransaction. Today that is true, but there is allot of push back on the microtransaction !@#$ crap within the industry at large, some playing out in court rooms as we speak, that may influence the future of that practice. Ultimately, the industry needs to go back to a DLC concept, that may become more costly in the end, for their extra cash. At the end of the day, we pay, upfront or afterward and we need to get used to the fact that a new A-List game cost $120.00 +, not $59.99. YES IT SUCKS, but so does the price of a car and I still need one! lol. So like my car, I tend to wait until games hit the bargain bin ... unless its Mass Effect ... Look at the new Battlefront, where EA got slammed and had to pull back. Same with the new Destiny and guess where Bioware is being made to go with EA, Anthem! WHICH WILL BE A COMPLETE DISASTER, AS CLONES NEVER WIN BIG, AND COULD BE THE END OF THEM AS A STUDIO. At least that is my fear, as this will really be the end Mass Effect. I would actually welcome better multiplayer in ME, as long as it is done right. Don't turn it into COD! If it would look a The Division, once they got all the bugs out, to allow almost seamless co-op play, that would be awesome! But no PvP or any of that shooter crap! Mass Effect has so much potential, being the true king of space gaming. EA need to get their heads out of their !##. I don't want to live through another Wing Commander and yes THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME! lol
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