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Post by themikefest on Nov 7, 2017 20:57:37 GMT
I think Mike's games and my games are about as opposite as possible. In mine, everybody lives and in his, everybody dies. I've done playthroughs with everyone surviving as well, at least everyone that can survive. I did a playthrough with only Kaidan and the edibot not surviving.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 9, 2017 7:41:44 GMT
Current playthrough, still incomplete, killed off Ash and Wrex plus entire ME2 squadmates (minus Garrus and Tali).
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Post by kalreegar on Nov 13, 2017 10:35:41 GMT
My canon playtrough
MASS EFFECT 1 Kaidan on virmire. Sorry bro but I was romancing ash, so...
MASS EFFECT 2 Jack: I hate her Thane: great character, but he deserves to die in battle, not in an hospital after having his ass beaten by kai leng. Legion: I really hate his treacherous and mendacious behavior in ME3. It doeasnt' make sense. Mordin: his death on tuchanka is spectacular, no doubt, but I don't like his unreasonable sudden change of mind about the genophagy. I don't like his dialogues in ME3, they are completely out of character. Padok Weeks make more sense. And, after all, his death on the collector base, saying " Tell them...I held the line...". is cool enough. Zaaed: usless stupid character, don't want him around Kasumi: usless silly character, don't want her around
MASS EFFECT 3 Edi: destroy ending. Good bye, sexbot.
death ratio: 40%.
Fighting the reapers is a dangerous job, "everyone survives" is a very anticlimatic thing IMO.
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Post by Curious Crow on Nov 13, 2017 15:42:16 GMT
Janet's wall of fame would probably have the honor for me. Or at least, it's the only run where the wall has filled up. Notable missing peeps: Rachni Queen, all of the colonists on Feros (But Ethan survived), Conrad Verner, Mornith, Steve, Edi, Liara and presumably all the crew onboard the Normandy (unless they were just shy I guess). Probably also some other side casualities not noted down. And I guess a lot of people died in the blast because the EMS was pretty low. 982 I wrote in my What did you do post at least. So she left the world a lot more deader than when she arrived.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 13, 2017 16:28:08 GMT
Janet's wall of fame would probably have the honor for me. Or at least, it's the only run where the wall has filled up. Notable missing peeps: Rachni Queen, all of the colonists on Feros (But Ethan survived), Conrad Verner, Mornith, Steve, Edi, Liara and presumably all the crew onboard the Normandy (unless they were just shy I guess). Probably also some other side casualities not noted down. And I guess a lot of people died in the blast because the EMS was pretty low. 982 I wrote in my What did you do post at least. So she left the world a lot more deader than when she arrived. Is that a mod you used? I asked because you have Zaeed's name on the wall. His name does not show up on the wall. Its a bug that has never been fixed.
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Post by Curious Crow on Nov 13, 2017 16:44:35 GMT
Is that a mod you used? I asked because you have Zaeed's name on the wall. His name does not show up on the wall. Its a bug that has never been fixed. Yes I did have a few mods installed. ME3Recalibrated, BackOff, Shorter Dreams and an alternative endings mod. My guess is I got the fix via ME3Recalibrated.
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Post by nougat on Nov 14, 2017 14:38:04 GMT
It's a shame that ME3Recalibrated does not fix "Grunt" nameplate, if he died in ME2 while being loyal. "Urdnot Grunt" is the correct one in that case. Also, I'm researching how to make a mod that kills Shepard's final squadmates on the beam run regardless of EMS. So there is no T'Soni and Vega nameplates, right? 'Cause it's impossible to have memorial scene after Harbinger slayed Shepard squadmates (EMS 1750-2000)?
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Post by themikefest on Nov 14, 2017 14:49:40 GMT
It's a shame that ME3Recalibrated does not fix "Grunt" nameplate, if he died in ME2 while being loyal. "Urdnot Grunt" is the correct one in that case. Also, I'm researching how to make a mod that kills Shepard's final squadmates on the beam run regardless of EMS. So there is no T'Soni and Vega nameplates, right? 'Cause it's impossible to have memorial scene after Harbinger slayed Shepard squadmates (EMS 1750-2000)? The memorial scene does take place if ems isbetween 1750-2000 and both squadmates are killed. I've done it a few times. Liara's name is on the wall, and Vega's and any of the others who have been taken on the beam run. I've never done a playthrough seeing Javik's name on the wall since I either didn't recruit him or he wasn't on the beam run.
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Post by nougat on Nov 14, 2017 14:58:55 GMT
The memorial scene does take place if ems isbetween 1750-2000 and both squadmates are killed. I've done it a few times. Liara's name is on the wall, and Vega's and any of the others who have been taken on the beam run. I've never done a playthrough seeing Javik's name on the wall since I either didn't recruit him or he wasn't on the beam run. Wow, that's great. Definitely going to try to make a mod. High-EMS Destroy+no inappropriate evacuation+2 final sacrifices on the beam run = the stuff of sweet dreams!
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Post by nougat on Nov 14, 2017 20:42:56 GMT
Well, well. Maybe I can simply modify pre-beam run' save via gibbed and set plot.ints 10430 to less than 2000 and then, after the deed is done, revert it back. That's a start. UPD: Lowering from high-EMS to low-EMS didn't worked. Ugh.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 15, 2017 15:06:29 GMT
Wow, that's great. Definitely going to try to make a mod. High-EMS Destroy+no inappropriate evacuation+2 final sacrifices on the beam run = the stuff of sweet dreams! Something to add that I should have added to my above post. If your ems is below 1750, and control is the only option, the memorial wall scene will still happen. Its only when destroy is the only option that there will be no memorial scene if ems is below 1750.
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 18, 2017 20:32:07 GMT
I have yet to do a run where I leave the galaxy in worse shape than it was before the Reapers arrive.
The worst one I've done is:
Ash/Wrex die on Virmire. Survive suicide mission with 4 squadmates and all the crew dead Galaxy in bad shape but can be rebuilt (didn't cure Genophage/killed Rachni/killed Quarians/Destroy ending).
I have a renegade run that I have ready to go where everyone is going to die eventually. I'm even going to do certain things that I've never done before like betray Wrex in ME3 and then shoot him and also kill Ash on the Citadel. Everyone in ME2 will die outside of maybe Miranda and someone like Mordin/Legion (since they die in ME3 anyway). I just need to get around to doing it.
Also I have to likely play offline because my MP stats will let me get a good ending too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 0:00:03 GMT
I think i only killed the fan (and just because i said to him fuck off) and Ashley because the quest required to choose and i always saved Kaidan.
i should do a playthrough where instead of being the typical homicidal evil that we all did sometimes, i should do the typical, sad/grim/hard world state ala Future Gohan/Gohan style from DBZ.
lol i really didn't explore all the roleplay options, i should go soon to play MET again.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 27, 2018 13:45:11 GMT
Gonna necro this thread, hope that's alright.
I'm going to keep track of my current MET playthrough (Renegade Soldier, Earthborn, Ruthless) as I think it will be the bloodiest I've had. At least I'm planning it that way.
Current body count:
1. Fist 2. Dr. Saleon 3. Finch 4. Scientist on Toombs' mission 5. Blackmailer on Dr. Michel's mission 6. Scientists on Nodacrux (The planet with the thorian creepers randomly on it.) 7. All the generic "Colonist" red shirts on Feros. 8. Jeong 9. Benezia 10. Rachni Queen
Edit 1: Time to add to the list...
11. Jacob & Julia (MSV Worthington Mission) 12. Helena Blake
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Post by themikefest on Feb 27, 2018 14:53:12 GMT
excellent. Keep up the good work
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 1, 2018 5:53:37 GMT
Added some more poor, unlucky bastards to the list.
Kaidan went out like a badass guarding the bomb and ensuring it went off. Wrex died believing he was fighting for the cure for the genophage. There's an interesting scene after Wrex is killed though... Captain Kirrahe asks if you want to give him a burial or dump him in the swamp! lolwut. I chose burial, which probably wasn't very Renegade-y of me, but wrex was cool in a warrior sort of way to Shep, so, he deserves some honor I think.
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Post by hjk410 on Mar 27, 2018 4:39:16 GMT
Kaidan and Kirrahe usually die in ME1. I didn't look up how to save Kirrahe until my... 4th playthrough. I didn't know how to do it. Kaidan because Ashley usually ends up being my romance In ME2, usually Jacob because I don't think he's that important in 3. Then again, there's several companions that don't do a lot in 3, but Jacob's even more so. I try to keep mostly everyone that can die in 3 alive, but I did end up having to kill Ashley so :/
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 27, 2018 5:01:48 GMT
To be fair, Ashley always dies in my runs because it's the only way I can romance Kaidan. Given a choice, someone else entirely would have died (probably Liara).
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Post by themikefest on Mar 27, 2018 5:06:43 GMT
In ME2, usually Jacob because I don't think he's that important in 3. Then again, there's several companions that don't do a lot in 3, but Jacob's even more so. If he's in ME3, he does the one thing the ME3 squadmates fail to do, provide cover fire for Shepard who is being helped by Brynn to get to the shuttle.
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Post by ropedrink on Aug 6, 2018 18:04:22 GMT
She'll only feel that way if you kill her off before character development. Kaiden has less relatable story than Ashley does at that point, so such comments make no sense to me as I wager she's better written than he is. You're not meant to instantly like her, though you are meant to understand her to some degree as you progress through the game and adapt to 'their' universe. The Council don't trust/like humans. At all. She was raised pro-human by a pro-human - thus skewed/stubborn views. She thaws... If you let her live, which I always do. As Shep you experience various reasons why she feels the way she does firsthand - whether they resonate or you agree/disagree is up to you. The aliens in power are mostly self-centred arseholes, but like most similar topics, one shouldn't wave a paintbrush just because of a select few, or specific situations, even if (culturally) all aliens fall into similar pit-traps constantly. I like Kaiden but I don't give a damn about his biotic woes. He himself turns out to be more passive and loyal/understanding of the two, but meh, unless you specifically want to romance one or the other, 'writing' doesn't come into the equation. They're on a somewhat even keel in that regard, but Ashley's background is of the more relatable kind. Note, relatable doesn't mean you agree with it. I'm against her early views but that's what makes it good, that she provokes that thought-conflict. Kaiden doesn't provoke anything. He's a nice chap, albeit bland. I'd call him the weaker written of the two.
As for the topic, well, I tend to work towards keeping people alive - crew wise, that is. As you can probably guess above, Kaiden is always the first - I do like him but he's the least interesting to me.
I'll renegade/slay any static NPC I find other than those who I don't feel deserve it, because I'm a 'nice' renegade. I only paragon if it's the only option for saving a nice peep, eg. Samara. Also very hard to resist giving Wrex his paragon hand-shake before the Geno mission. Mostly everything else is fair game, eg. Batarian poison-drinks, pushing mercs through windows, shooting that merc guy when asking for intel, killing whatshername in Citadel etc etc.
Screw all of those. Anyone of actual significance is saved from my wrath, because content.
PS. Sorry for the bump, but I had to reply after reading that OP. That body-count is cool (for all the wrong reasons).
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