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Post by bladefist on Mar 19, 2020 21:54:27 GMT
Useful! I had no idea there was a certain chant for each school of magic
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 13, 2020 8:51:51 GMT
Now starting Chapter 6 in BG2, playing the games for the first time. I liked alot the Underdark part, I liked how I could screw with all the Drow upper command. I'm running a Sorc with Minsc, Jaheira, Imoen, Aerie and Jan. Just got the Planetar and that thing is insane, easily stronger than any of my party members. BG2 itself is a wild ride, feels like every quest is going to insane places. The combat is challenging without making the enemies too spongy (unlike, lets say, DA2). The infinity engine is still dated, but I feel I got used to it's quirks after BG1. So as of now, BG2 is my favorite infinity engine game and I've played Planescape Torment. Liches are bitches but they are manageable when handled with Mace of Disrupton. Looking forward to bash Irenicus (that's how you taunt the PC, not like Harbinger) and go into ToB, hopefully the writing and the beautiful environments (BG1 was ugly for the most part) keep up there. |
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 21, 2020 10:22:58 GMT
Update on my Baldur's Gate adventures: So I've finished Shadow of Amn, god Irenicus was pretty damn easy with a Lvl 22 sorc with Alacrity and Time Stop, and I avoided fighting Demogorgon as I've decided it will be a problem for another playthrough. The hardest fights I had I think are opening the last seals in the way to Demogorgon, those were extremely brutal. The one thing I didn't like in BG2's story is the instant alignment change in the end (wanted to keep my chaotic natural alignment, but it pushed me to chaotic evil so I had to reload from previous save). The ending was a bit empty though, with the elven queen speaking a bit and nothing more.
Now I'm in the beginning of Throne of Bhaal and I've heard that this expansion is so damn hard. I want to experience Sarevok as a companion, so I threw out Minsc. Hopefully I won't regret it that I don't have a true Flail of the Ages user. Hopefully I didn't ruin myself the story too much because I know that Mellysan will be the final boss.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 27, 2020 4:45:04 GMT
Another update: So I've finished ToB, that was an intense but short expansion. The dragon bhaalspawn was brutal, and Ammelysan was an endurance round, lucky I could cheese her with Spike Traps and Wish. I don't feel that ready for BG3 though, I probably should finish the game on Legacy of Bhaal though to be so. I'm now starting a solo run of all the games with a F/M/T elf, lets see how it goes. I intend to get to 161k exp and then finish BG1, then hit the 650k cap in SoD before going to SoA and ToB. |
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Post by Iakus on May 23, 2020 15:28:35 GMT
I've just dusted off the BG games and loaded up on mods.
Running a halfling fighter/thief. First time I've ever run a shorty. I generally prefer humans or elves.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on May 23, 2020 19:44:50 GMT
Playing now on Legacy of Bhaal. Damn the game wasn't planned to be played like this, that life x3 + 80 formula makes BG1 a hellscape. Luckily, I figured out that stunning everyone is the way to go, while my summons chipping away at the health. I've just finished BG1 with a dose of Spirit Lions and Wand of Paralysis, the easiest final battle of BG1 I've ever had. But damn it took me like 5 hours now to get through the lich dungeon in SoD...
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Post by Iakus on May 23, 2020 20:14:30 GMT
Playing now on Legacy of Bhaal. Damn the game wasn't planned to be played like this, that life x3 + 80 formula makes BG1 a hellscape. Luckily, I figured out that stunning everyone is the way to go, while my summons chipping away at the health. I've just finished BG1 with a dose of Spirit Lions and Wand of Paralysis, the easiest final battle of BG1 I've ever had. But damn it took me like 5 hours now to get through the lich dungeon in SoD... I don't think Legacy of Bhaal was a difficulty level in the original game... 
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Post by ApocAlypsE on May 24, 2020 11:42:26 GMT
Playing now on Legacy of Bhaal. Damn the game wasn't planned to be played like this, that life x3 + 80 formula makes BG1 a hellscape. Luckily, I figured out that stunning everyone is the way to go, while my summons chipping away at the health. I've just finished BG1 with a dose of Spirit Lions and Wand of Paralysis, the easiest final battle of BG1 I've ever had. But damn it took me like 5 hours now to get through the lich dungeon in SoD... I don't think Legacy of Bhaal was a difficulty level in the original game... Ya I know, I just have this bug in my head that I can't allow myself to say that I finished a game unless I did so on the highest difficulty level. Probably future playthoughs I will try on Insanity + SCS.
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Post by Iakus on May 24, 2020 15:29:43 GMT
I don't think Legacy of Bhaal was a difficulty level in the original game... Ya I know, I just have this bug in my head that I can't allow myself to say that I finished a game unless I did so on the highest difficulty level. Probably future playthoughs I will try on Insanity + SCS. Have you tried the Ascension mod for ToB? Makes the final battle a lot more...interesting...
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Post by Psychevore on May 25, 2020 9:32:38 GMT
I rolled a fighter to dual into a Druid at level 7, only to figure out I made a mistake after playing for a few hours. I thought I needed 15 charisma but I actually needed 17. I tried rerolling, but figuring I needed a 92 roll on a fighter (yikes) to get what I wanted I didn't have much hope. After rolling for 30 minutes and not getting even a 90 roll (which I would've ended up accepting, scacrificing hitpoints) and already forming the thought to just give up and play another game, I rolled a 92. So, here goes: With tomes I expect to hit the required 17 Wisdom just around the point I hit level 7, so it should be all good. 17 charisma is trivial of course, cause that's in the gnoll stronghold, which is my next stop. Imoen, Dorn, Viconia and Edwin will go with me for the entire trilogy. Kagain will be replaced with Korgan, who'll be replaced with Sarevok in ToB. |
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Post by ApocAlypsE on May 25, 2020 14:24:24 GMT
Ya I know, I just have this bug in my head that I can't allow myself to say that I finished a game unless I did so on the highest difficulty level. Probably future playthoughs I will try on Insanity + SCS. Have you tried the Ascension mod for ToB? Makes the final battle a lot more...interesting... Easy there, I only finished the Bhaalspawn saga a single time on core rules... Installing difficulty enhancing mods is too much for me right now.
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Post by Iakus on May 25, 2020 16:44:34 GMT
I rolled a fighter to dual into a Druid at level 7, only to figure out I made a mistake after playing for a few hours. I thought I needed 15 charisma but I actually needed 17. I tried rerolling, but figuring I needed a 92 roll on a fighter (yikes) to get what I wanted I didn't have much hope. After rolling for 30 minutes and not getting even a 90 roll (which I would've ended up accepting, scacrificing hitpoints) and already forming the thought to just give up and play another game, I rolled a 92. So, here goes: With tomes I expect to hit the required 17 Wisdom just around the point I hit level 7, so it should be all good. 17 charisma is trivial of course, cause that's in the gnoll stronghold, which is my next stop. Imoen, Dorn, Viconia and Edwin will go with me for the entire trilogy. Kagain will be replaced with Korgan, who'll be replaced with Sarevok in ToB. If you don't mind "cheating", there is a modding tool called EEKeeper (you are playing Enhanced Edition, right?) which you can use to modify your character sheet, among other things.
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Post by Iakus on May 25, 2020 16:56:22 GMT
Have you tried the Ascension mod for ToB? Makes the final battle a lot more...interesting... Easy there, I only finished the Bhaalspawn saga a single time on core rules... Installing difficulty enhancing mods is too much for me right now. It's not a difficulty enhancing mod as such (though yes you can increase the difficulties of the boss fights). More of a "cut content" mod (David Gaider himself helped write it) Among other things it does, is it drastically alters the final confrontation: Sarevok can turn on you depending on how your banters with him have gone.
Imoen can Slayer-out and attack you, though she can recover.
You fight a resurrected Bodhi and Jon Irenicus
THEN you fight a resurrected Five again, ALL AT ONCE this time
And only then do you fight Amelyssan...
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Post by Psychevore on May 25, 2020 20:32:01 GMT
I rolled a fighter to dual into a Druid at level 7, only to figure out I made a mistake after playing for a few hours. I thought I needed 15 charisma but I actually needed 17. I tried rerolling, but figuring I needed a 92 roll on a fighter (yikes) to get what I wanted I didn't have much hope. After rolling for 30 minutes and not getting even a 90 roll (which I would've ended up accepting, scacrificing hitpoints) and already forming the thought to just give up and play another game, I rolled a 92. So, here goes: With tomes I expect to hit the required 17 Wisdom just around the point I hit level 7, so it should be all good. 17 charisma is trivial of course, cause that's in the gnoll stronghold, which is my next stop. Imoen, Dorn, Viconia and Edwin will go with me for the entire trilogy. Kagain will be replaced with Korgan, who'll be replaced with Sarevok in ToB. If you don't mind "cheating", there is a modding tool called EEKeeper (you are playing Enhanced Edition, right?) which you can use to modify your character sheet, among other things. Yeah, I have it. Because I'm an idiot and sometimes pick the wrong weapon proficiencies  but for stats I want to actually roll them. I don't know why to be honest, because I would use a mod that would just roll until I got the overal score I wanted. It's ridiculous, I know.
edit: obviously playing the Enhanced Edition, else I wouldn't have Dorn 
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Post by ApocAlypsE on May 26, 2020 7:01:00 GMT
Easy there, I only finished the Bhaalspawn saga a single time on core rules... Installing difficulty enhancing mods is too much for me right now. It's not a difficulty enhancing mod as such (though yes you can increase the difficulties of the boss fights). More of a "cut content" mod (David Gaider himself helped write it) Among other things it does, is it drastically alters the final confrontation: Sarevok can turn on you depending on how your banters with him have gone.
Imoen can Slayer-out and attack you, though she can recover.
You fight a resurrected Bodhi and Jon Irenicus
THEN you fight a resurrected Five again, ALL AT ONCE this time
And only then do you fight Amelyssan... Oh wow, Abazigal by himself was a pain in the ass, having him partner with Balthazar, Yaga Shura, and co. seems like overkill. Probably will just go someday with SCS.
Anyway, I know that ToB was intended to be much larger than the version that we got, and I wish Ammelysan would have gotten much more love like Sarevok and Irenicus. As of now, she seems like wasted potential, though not as much as Caelar Argent which the ending of SoD turned her instantly from a charismatic and misguided character into a selfish idiot.
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Post by Psychevore on May 30, 2020 14:47:47 GMT
So yeah, ehm... I killed Drizzt. For the time ever, I think. Or well, my little Bhaalspawn sister did. But I don't know she's that yet  Anyway, I gave the armor to Viconia (who had nothing to say to Drizzt, which was kinda disappointing), gave Twinkle to Imoen and took Icingdeath for myself. Will not kill him again in BG2. But might mention to him I did |
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Post by Psychevore on May 31, 2020 19:13:21 GMT
And today I learned how to read by reading a tome. What a world. I also started the dual. Can't wait to get my fighter levels back and swing my staff with grandmastery. |
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 5, 2020 6:56:16 GMT
I've been back to Candlekeep and am on my way to Baldur's Gate to finish off Sarevok. On a more metagaming note: I was kinda disappointed I couldn't immediately get grandmastery when getting my Berserker levels back at level 8 Druid, cause apparantly you need at least level 9 (the level at which a single class fighter would unlock grandmastery) in one of your classes to be able to do that now. Which is fine I guess, it was kinda exploity to get it in BG1 and the 'real' game rules never allowed for that anyway. So getting grandmastery in staves will have to wait till level 12 Druid in BG2. After which the godawfull long road till level 15 starts (300k experience required for level 12, 3 million for level 15  ) Anyway, look at that THAC0. Yummy. How do y'all say THAC0 anyway? I basiccaly just say 'taco' with a 'th' sound  |
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2020 4:34:56 GMT
How do y'all say THAC0 anyway? I basiccaly just say 'taco' with a 'th' sound I give it the long A sound in my head: Thay-co. Took me I don't know how long to actually figure out what it stood for. 
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 7, 2020 19:34:27 GMT
I slew Sarevok in what ultimately turned out to be a rather easy battle. I just chucked a bunch of potions on my melee guys, buffed with Viconia then opened battle with a salvo out of range. Edwin cast a cloudkill and Dorn and Kagain threw fireballs (with a necklace), while Viconia threw down a hole smite. This instantly killed one of Sarevok's companions, much to my surprise, before Sarevok even spoke. I had the party fall back in formation and let Sarevok come to me. After he talked for a bit, followed by 2 magic missiles in the face from Edwin and 2 massive critical hits by Dorn and Kagain later; there he lay on the floor. Sarevok's second companion had just entered my vision. It was almost disappointing  I had skipped a bit too much content though, so I only barely hit max level on Gorion's Ward. Anyway, BG2 has finished installing, so let's continue this trip. My companions better start talking more though, cause I could just as well have played with with 6 custom characters and it barely would have made a difference. |
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2020 22:25:21 GMT
My companions better start talking more though, cause I could just as well have played with with 6 custom characters and it barely would have made a difference. Without the NPC mod for BG1 the companions rarely say anthing. BG2 is much better in that regard. |
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 8, 2020 9:45:05 GMT
The intro of BG2 is absolutely terrible. Every choice you've made in BG1 is invalidated within minutes after leaving character creation. Never spoke to Minsc? Well, he's there for some reason. Only talked to Jaheira once to tell her you wanted to go your own way? Well, she's there, and she can tell you you've traveled a lot together. You could've murdered both of them, they'll still be there. Khalid is also always there, but luckily he's dead. Imoen is also there, but that can be forgiven by the fact she's a Bhaalspawn... but of course you don't know that yet at that stage of the game. I find it especially jarring cause I've read walls of text crying about how 'choices don't matter' in whatever game angry gamer dude is angry about this time around, while at the same time holding up Baldur's Gate as the epitome of an RPG. Anyway, end of rant |
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Post by Iakus on Jun 8, 2020 15:46:50 GMT
The intro of BG2 is absolutely terrible. Every choice you've made in BG1 is invalidated within minutes after leaving character creation. Never spoke to Minsc? Well, he's there for some reason. Only talked to Jaheira once to tell her you wanted to go your own way? Well, she's there, and she can tell you you've traveled a lot together. You could've murdered both of them, they'll still be there. Khalid is also always there, but luckily he's dead. Imoen is also there, but that can be forgiven by the fact she's a Bhaalspawn... but of course you don't know that yet at that stage of the game. I find it especially jarring cause I've read walls of text crying about how 'choices don't matter' in whatever game angry gamer dude is angry about this time around, while at the same time holding up Baldur's Gate as the epitome of an RPG. Anyway, end of rant  The Baldur's Gate games far precedes the concept of carrying over choices from previous games (Mass Effect touting that for its trilogy was pretty revolutionary for the time, and even then it wasn't great about it). In fact, it leans on the fourth wall a number of times when you meet people form the previous game. There is often a dialogue choice of "Aren't you dead?" or something along those lines.
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 8, 2020 20:24:45 GMT
The intro of BG2 is absolutely terrible. Every choice you've made in BG1 is invalidated within minutes after leaving character creation. Never spoke to Minsc? Well, he's there for some reason. Only talked to Jaheira once to tell her you wanted to go your own way? Well, she's there, and she can tell you you've traveled a lot together. You could've murdered both of them, they'll still be there. Khalid is also always there, but luckily he's dead. Imoen is also there, but that can be forgiven by the fact she's a Bhaalspawn... but of course you don't know that yet at that stage of the game. I find it especially jarring cause I've read walls of text crying about how 'choices don't matter' in whatever game angry gamer dude is angry about this time around, while at the same time holding up Baldur's Gate as the epitome of an RPG. Anyway, end of rant The Baldur's Gate games far precedes the concept of carrying over choices from previous games (Mass Effect touting that for its trilogy was pretty revolutionary for the time, and even then it wasn't great about it). In fact, it leans on the fourth wall a number of times when you meet people form the previous game. There is often a dialogue choice of "Aren't you dead?" or something along those lines. Yeah, I know, I already played these games back then. It just appears to me that the memory people have of BG1/BG2 doesn't conform with reality. Same goes for me btw, the trilogy was always sky high in my favourite games of all time list... until I bought these enhanced editions and realized most of it was just nostalgia coupled with the fact that I was like 12-14 years old back then.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 8, 2020 22:39:53 GMT
The Baldur's Gate games far precedes the concept of carrying over choices from previous games (Mass Effect touting that for its trilogy was pretty revolutionary for the time, and even then it wasn't great about it). In fact, it leans on the fourth wall a number of times when you meet people form the previous game. There is often a dialogue choice of "Aren't you dead?" or something along those lines. Yeah, I know, I already played these games back then. It just appears to me that the memory people have of BG1/BG2 doesn't conform with reality. Same goes for me btw, the trilogy was always sky high in my favourite games of all time list... until I bought these enhanced editions and realized most of it was just nostalgia coupled with the fact that I was like 12-14 years old back then. Eh, I'm replaying BG1 now (with NPC Project and other mods) and enjoying it just fine. Save imports are overrated.
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but for stats I want to actually roll them. I don't know why to be honest, because I would use a mod that would just roll until I got the overal score I wanted.
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