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Post by lawmay on Mar 30, 2017 0:18:52 GMT
Getting that delicious juggernaut shield when I get home and I'm curious which would be better, between Kroguard,Asari Adept or Asari Sentinel...or any others, those are just what I have unlocked that seem like a good fit, only have commons and uncommons.
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Post by commandcodes on Mar 30, 2017 0:27:02 GMT
Adept faster, restores shields with every hit, instant heal at low health. Spec 1.4x damage to enemies affected by biotics
Favorite though is Asari Sentinel
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Post by xaijin on Mar 30, 2017 0:37:51 GMT
AA hits many many times with 'cancelling', though I'm pretty sure cancelling is just very badly implemented code resolves, because this game is completely full of laggy code, and I don't mean net code.
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 30, 2017 0:41:04 GMT
Kroguard just because you can not care about literally anything while you bash your head into things.
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Post by P51Mus7ang on Mar 30, 2017 0:56:56 GMT
Bunch of us did a gold all Kroguard run, levels 11 to 15, very, very little weapons used, all charge/melee.Nova....it was a blast. Wish they had more character voices like in ME3 but these kits tank
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Post by deadwooded on Mar 30, 2017 1:04:19 GMT
If you're lucky enough to get a DUelist she is pretty damn awesome... I have also been playing as the Atari Adept... I like Atari
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Post by lawmay on Mar 30, 2017 1:12:46 GMT
Silly me, nothing stopping me from doing both I suppose. Are there any other kits, including ones I haven't unlocked yet that are melee centric?
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Post by TormDK on Mar 30, 2017 1:14:44 GMT
Why would you even want to melee, when you can do Turbo Charged DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA with the Thokin? Makes no sense!
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Mar 30, 2017 1:17:18 GMT
I'd argue vanilla human vanguard. Barrier passive get 20% shields on melee hit is the key. HV gets that and biotic charge insta refill shields. Unless he gets sych'd or chain staggered he is nigh unkillable.
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Post by nranola on Mar 30, 2017 1:18:29 GMT
Human Vanguard is very, very good. You can punch your way through Gold no problem.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 30, 2017 1:45:05 GMT
My fav is the Krogan Gladiator by far.
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Post by deadwooded on Mar 30, 2017 1:45:32 GMT
Silly me, nothing stopping me from doing both I suppose. Are there any other kits, including ones I haven't unlocked yet that are melee centric? Because while you dakka dakka'd one Berserker, I took out his homeboy, a hydra and all of the dogs on the map.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Mar 30, 2017 2:06:00 GMT
Asari adept probably, every gold game I take out that build the clear times tend to be really fast. Much better than any krogan in my opinion. I have the gladiator as well but the adept is much better imo, barrier passive tree shits on rage.
Human vanguard and asari duelist are good too but the 40% debuff on annihilation field means stuff is gonna die faster with the adept in the lobby so that tips it in her favor in my opinion.
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Post by No Snakes Alive on Mar 30, 2017 3:16:32 GMT
Asari Sentinel looks like an interesting contender for secret top tier underdog melee build. Skipping Throw entirely, every single other skill tree seems to have some sort of melee damage boost and/or shield restore ability, and Energy Drain seems like it'd have good synergy with punching people in the face.
I'm sure in the end the Asari Adept's 40% debuff coupled with her ability to restore shields with every punch probably trump what the Asari Sentinel has to offer but still, I'm intrigued. Anyone f with an AS melee build yet?
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Post by zorinho20 on Mar 30, 2017 4:45:37 GMT
My God, Asari are the best melee fighters! What's next,Krogan as best infiltrators. Effing SJWs.
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Post by lillekri on Mar 30, 2017 8:52:11 GMT
One minor detail.. Krogan feels so horrible once you get used to leaping all over the map with the AMAZING human jump-dodge. (But Im sure he has other strengths that more than make up for it..) Asari dodge is nice too, but my impression is it has a tiny microsecond of lag after the dodge animation, compared to human.. I assume each has their strengths, making it somewhat impossible to say for sure who is 'best'.. And I shall discover them all for myself, cos I took an oath to max out all the melee builds
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Post by themightypanda on Mar 30, 2017 9:58:48 GMT
I quite like the Human Vanguard, faster more maneuverable than the Kroguard.
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Post by SilentFear on Mar 30, 2017 11:01:40 GMT
There is bunch of great mele kits.
First place is contested for me by the Kroguard and the Asari Adept. On one hand the Kroguard gets bunch of mele boosters combined whit the Rage health regen, charge instant shield restore (and amazing mobility) and fortified damage resistance - he cant just chill in the middle of horde and lol at them.
But the Asari Adpet is just as good. If you go full on shield restore she gets two - one is 20% shields on every hit and one is 30% shields on every kill (as long as target is in the annihilation field). So she can be just as good and on top of all she can still bomb everything whit two detonators. Amazing indeed.
On second place i would go whit Angara Avenger and Krogan Gladiator. The Avenger is just fun whit mass invisibility and avenger strike while the Krogan Gladiator is a bit more team orientated.
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Post by jamesdsidious on Mar 31, 2017 6:17:29 GMT
I prefer the Angaran Avenger. Specced to melee with jugg shield and a melee enhanced shotgun. It's my favourite class right now. i know, it's only on silver but still, it's an awesome melee class.
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Post by kalil on Mar 31, 2017 6:20:01 GMT
Haven't had time to play them all, but asari duelist is a very satisfying play style and perfectly gold viable.
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Post by molochicken on Mar 31, 2017 8:02:42 GMT
The minimal requirement of a melee character is: You don't die doing melee. The damage from melee comes second.
To do melee in gold charge skill is a must. If you try to sprint or jump around to do melee in gold you will always be dead. When you die as a melee inside a group of enemies(where you wouldn't die in the first place if its 1v1 or 1v2), it means that your teammates have to take a lot of risk to rescue you. So 3 characters have charge:
Asari Duelist Melee Damage after charge: charge 5A + 30%, Offensive Biotic + 50% = 80 % Regular melee damage: 125% Total Optimal Melee Damage = 205%
Survivability - Charge: recharge all shields after charge - Barrier 6B recharge all shield under 25% health - Charge Sheild for 30% with each melee - Can evade through wall
Krogan Vanguard Melee Damage after charge: charge 5A + 30%, Melee Damage extra while Rage activate: + 50% Regular melee damage: Rage 70% + Fortify 30% + Rage 5B(complicated) cap + 65% Total Optimal Melee Damage = 245%
Survivability - Charge: recharge all shields after charge - Fortify: resistance + 70 assuming 6B = 58% damage taken
Human Vangaurd Human vanguard is a bad mix of with skills of Asari Duelist and Krogaurd, the two are better in any comparison.
Asari Duelist has 2 active and 1 passive ways to fully charge sheild, while Kroguard only has 1 way to charge actively, however Kroguard only takes 58% of damage. Kroguard is arguably a little bit better in survivability.
Although on paper Kroguard looks like it could do more melee damage, Asari Duelist is the winner in melee simply because of its melee animation: - Her raw melee damage a little bit higher than Kroguard - During the melee animation she becomes invincible for a short time while Kroguard doesn't - Her melee animation is locked on the target so you would not miss IF YOU AIM THE CROSSHAIR AT YOUR ENEMY (some will complain that her melee always miss, i guess they forget to aim) Since the Kroguard is just uncommon in rarity you can max it out pretty soon. The Asari Duelist is Ultra rare which you know you probably will never be able to max out. If its a Krogaurd X vs Asari Duelist II ( min lv to get 61166), I would say Kroguard is better. But if you can get Asari Duelist X then it would surely be better.
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Post by sinfulfox on Mar 31, 2017 19:22:34 GMT
Tried most of them, Human Vanguard is without a doubt the one with best survivability, charge for full shield, 20% on melee hit, 100% on 25% hp not to mention brief invunerability from Nova.
Dmg is a little lower the the others but its neglible.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Mar 31, 2017 19:54:07 GMT
The minimal requirement of a melee character is: You don't die doing melee. The damage from melee comes second. To do melee in gold charge skill is a must. If you try to sprint or jump around to do melee in gold you will always be dead. When you die as a melee inside a group of enemies(where you wouldn't die in the first place if its 1v1 or 1v2), it means that your teammates have to take a lot of risk to rescue you. So 3 characters have charge: Asari DuelistMelee Damage after charge: charge 5A + 30%, Offensive Biotic + 50% = 80 % Regular melee damage: 125% Total Optimal Melee Damage = 205% Survivability - Charge: recharge all shields after charge - Barrier 6B recharge all shield under 25% health - Charge Sheild for 30% with each melee - Can evade through wall Krogan VanguardMelee Damage after charge: charge 5A + 30%, Melee Damage extra while Rage activate: + 50% Regular melee damage: Rage 70% + Fortify 30% + Rage 5B(complicated) cap + 65% Total Optimal Melee Damage = 245% Survivability - Charge: recharge all shields after charge - Fortify: resistance + 70 assuming 6B = 58% damage taken Human VangaurdHuman vanguard is a bad mix of with skills of Asari Duelist and Krogaurd, the two are better in any comparison. Asari Duelist has 2 active and 1 passive ways to fully charge sheild, while Kroguard only has 1 way to charge actively, however Kroguard only takes 58% of damage. Kroguard is arguably a little bit better in survivability. Although on paper Kroguard looks like it could do more melee damage, Asari Duelist is the winner in melee simply because of its melee animation: - Her raw melee damage a little bit higher than Kroguard - During the melee animation she becomes invincible for a short time while Kroguard doesn't - Her melee animation is locked on the target so you would not miss IF YOU AIM THE CROSSHAIR AT YOUR ENEMY (some will complain that her melee always miss, i guess they forget to aim) Since the Kroguard is just uncommon in rarity you can max it out pretty soon. The Asari Duelist is Ultra rare which you know you probably will never be able to max out. If its a Krogaurd X vs Asari Duelist II ( min lv to get 61166), I would say Kroguard is better. But if you can get Asari Duelist X then it would surely be better. Charge is not remotely a must for a melee character in Gold...
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 31, 2017 21:26:11 GMT
Kroguard just because you can not care about literally anything while you bash your head into things. Unless an Annointed shows up and ruins your day. To do melee in gold charge skill is a must. No, it's not. L2P.
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Post by 13igtyme on Apr 1, 2017 13:15:41 GMT
My Adept doesn't have charge. I must be doing something wrong. I'll keep that in mind next time I melee a Fiend. Or face tank annointed
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