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Post by suikoden on Mar 30, 2017 4:30:49 GMT
Anyone else think this might be a desperate ploy to win over anyone still on the fence that hasn't purchased Andromeda and is wavering between it and Persona 5? (currently at 94% on Metacritic).
Also, anyone else plan on playing both?
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 4:35:34 GMT
I don't think it's a ploy. Tuesdays are usually patch announcement days for MMO like games. It's a common thing.
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Post by brownfinger on Mar 30, 2017 5:12:41 GMT
"Desperate ploy" is quite a reach. After a long development cycle and what was likely a hellish crunch in the home stretch given that we knew nothing at all about the game until four months ago, any sudden potential directional changes in the post launch window would take a good bit of planning. I have no idea what the Persona series is or what it's about, but a cursory evaluation suggests that it's wildly different from Mass Effect. If I was at all interested in the kind of experience Persona offers (which I am unequivocally not), there is nothing the developer of a completely different game can say two weeks after its launch to deter me. You can question Bioware's technical skill if you like and that's probably fair, but questioning their intelligence is misguided.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 30, 2017 5:14:27 GMT
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 30, 2017 5:17:59 GMT
I'd never even heard of this game. Its aesthetic alone tells me that it's not my thing. BioWare's announcement has everything to do with managing their own product, and nothing to do with Persona 5.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 5:20:22 GMT
Persona 5 is a JRPG, and it has won many awards. People have been waiting to play it awhile since Persona 4 came out awhile ago. There is also an Anime for it.
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Post by Cannibal on Mar 30, 2017 5:20:41 GMT
The only thing andromeda and persona have in common is that you play as a kid.
Also next Tuesday there is an update to swtor as well, I guess bioware are trying to take the attention off of bioware.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 30, 2017 5:22:49 GMT
"Desperate ploy" is quite a reach. After a long development cycle and what was likely a hellish crunch in the home stretch given that we knew nothing at all about the game until four months ago, any sudden potential directional changes in the post launch window would take a good bit of planning. I have no idea what the Persona series is or what it's about, but a cursory evaluation suggests that it's wildly different from Mass Effect. If I was at all interested in the kind of experience Persona offers (which I am unequivocally not), there is nothing the developer of a completely different game can say two weeks after its launch to deter me. You can question Bioware's technical skill if you like and that's probably fair, but questioning their intelligence is misguided. I think I assumed people would know what Persona is (JRPG with tons of relationship options). Probably will end up being RPG of the year too.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 5:23:56 GMT
I forgot to add it is like a teenage dating sim dungeon crawler game.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 30, 2017 5:25:38 GMT
I forgot to add it is like a teenage dating sim dungeon crawler game. Excellent story and dialogue though. You make it sound far too simplistic. That's like me saying Andromeda is essentially a tumblr blog with guns.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 5:27:59 GMT
Is anyone really truly concerned with competing with a JRPG like this when they aren't really making anything like it themselves? Unless it turned out to be supreme garbage, people, particularly those already balls deep in anime and JRPG's already, will eat this shit up because of course they will.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 5:28:44 GMT
I forgot to add it is like a teenage dating sim dungeon crawler game. Excellent story and dialogue though. You make it sound far too simplistic. That's like me saying Andromeda is essentially a tumblr blog with guns. Oh, I agree. It is much more then what I described. The story in it is awesome. I still need to play Persona 4 before I touch Persona 5. I have a soft spot for JRPGs.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 30, 2017 5:30:58 GMT
I forgot to add it is like a teenage dating sim dungeon crawler game. Excellent story and dialogue though. You make it sound far too simplistic. That's like me saying Andromeda is essentially a tumblr blog with guns. And yet persona 4 was all about gender roles and sexuality, funny cross dressing, teen idols and an annoying bear who spoke in puns trying to solve a murder mystery like Scooby doo. Don't get me wrong, I love persona 4 a lot, good character writing is still good character writing, but let's not pretend it's perfect either. Even mass effect is not perfect in terms of it writing. But no game really is.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 30, 2017 5:32:26 GMT
Excellent story and dialogue though. You make it sound far too simplistic. That's like me saying Andromeda is essentially a tumblr blog with guns. And yet persona 4 was all about gender roles and sexuality, funny cross dressing, teen idols and an annoying bear who spoke in puns trying to solve a murder mystery like Scooby doo. Don't get me wrong, I love persona 4 a lot, good character writing is still good character writing, but let's not pretend it's perfect either. Even mass effect is not perfect in terms of it writing. But no game really is. Except the Witcher 3.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 30, 2017 5:32:59 GMT
Is anyone really truly concerned with competing with a JRPG like this when they aren't really making anything like it themselves? Unless it turned out to be supreme garbage, people, particularly those already balls deep in anime and JRPG's already, will eat this shit up because of course they will. They're both RPGs. A lot of people will have a choice to make between Andromeda and Persona 5. Personally, I think Persona is going to be the break-out hit RPG of the year that sells more than Andromeda. Kind of like FF7 for a new generation.
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Post by SilJeff on Mar 30, 2017 5:35:24 GMT
Will they be patching in blackjack and hookers?
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Post by brownfinger on Mar 30, 2017 6:25:01 GMT
I think I assumed people would know what Persona is (JRPG with tons of relationship options). Probably will end up being RPG of the year too. Yeah, you probably shouldn't. I've seen enough now to know that it's not for me. And that's fine. There are Call of Duty games that get awesome review scores too, doesn't make me want to play Call of Duty. I have enjoyed Andromeda and what it's about, technical faults and everything, but "Tumblr with guns" is an amazing description of it.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 30, 2017 6:46:11 GMT
Anyone else think this might be a desperate ploy to win over anyone still on the fence that hasn't purchased Andromeda and is wavering between it and Persona 5? (currently at 94% on Metacritic). Also, anyone else plan on playing both? I never heard of the game until now, but I will give it a look. Thanks. I guess they had that meeting with EA. Let's hope for the best.
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Post by commandercole5 on Mar 30, 2017 7:00:28 GMT
Having never played a JRPG worth anything more than toilet paper, naw i doubt it
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Post by suikoden on Mar 30, 2017 7:06:13 GMT
Having never played a JRPG worth anything more than toilet paper, naw i doubt it You're missing out then. FF7 has sold more copies than the entire ME trilogy combined.
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Post by commandercole5 on Mar 30, 2017 7:08:16 GMT
Having never played a JRPG worth anything more than toilet paper, naw i doubt it You're missing out then. FF7 has sold more copies than the entire ME trilogy combined. I tried FF7, Jesus it was boring...Is SoC A JRPG? If so then 1 good one,
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Mar 30, 2017 7:09:43 GMT
Im guessing its DLC of some kind. As if it was technical fixes they most likely would've just said straight up with none of this secrecy, wait and see nonsense.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 30, 2017 7:13:17 GMT
Persona never even released on PCs. Why would PC master race care?
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 30, 2017 7:14:11 GMT
Persona fans are already a lost cause.
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