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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 2, 2017 6:02:48 GMT
Overall, I think BioWare is getting better at romances. Some of the romances really shined and it seems BioWare is getting more comfortable animating these intimate scenes. That being said, BioWare seems to be horribly inconsistent with quality between potential love interests.
While some of the romances were exceptionally well-executed (Jaal, Cora, Peebee), others felt lacking in my opinion (Liam, Vetra, Suvi). My other minor complaint would be the sheer size of the game makes the romance arcs seem very small in comparison. I clocked in around 111 hours in my first completionist run on Insanity, and most of the "romance" up until that point was the occasional flirt and nothing else. There doesn't need to be sex scenes all over, but it would be nice if your interactions felt like an actual relationship and not just an infrequent flirting simulator for a majority of the experience.
I was hoping we'd get away from the "sex scene right before final mission," but it seems that Mass Effect staple reared its ugly head in Mass Effect Andromeda. With how big BioWare games are getting in terms of content (offering over 100 hours of play time), I think there needs to be serious consideration in overhauling and providing more content in romances to compensate for the longer experiences.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 2, 2017 6:11:49 GMT
While I haven't played all the romances, the romances I have played or seen were all really well done in my opinion. I absolutely love Suvi's, being the exact kind of romance I was hoping to have in Mass Effect especially after Josephine's in DAI, with those two now being my favorite of each franchise. I also really like Cora's, especially the non-sex route which I'm glad in her case got equal attention. While they are the light romances, I also found Avela's and Keri's to be really sweet and well done. The others are really good as well to the point I can't think of a single bad romance among the bunch other than maybe subjective things on my part.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 2, 2017 6:18:49 GMT
I romanced Gil and Reyes (in the same run, since the game doesn't allow either man to acknowledge the other romance). I felt like Gil's was extremely slow to move forward but then leaped from mild flirting to "boyfriends" and then sex to "married with children". Too slow and then too fast. It was sweet enough but the pacing was terrible.
Reyes was kind of interesting. I kind of liked it. People may say it's a fling but after the fight on Meridian it's clear that Reyes still considers Ryder to be his guy. This one seemed more organic to me and, while they like one another, they haven't worked out where it's going. Seems like a natural progression since a lot is going on and neither is really in a position to settle down just yet. If BioWare could fix the dialogue where Vetra refers to Scott as "queen" and "baroness" it would be pretty awesome. Otherwise, it's like when you do a gender swap in ME1 and your male Shepard gets called "princess" and "ma'am".
EDIT: Just started a new playthrough and considering romancing Cora. I'm not huge on alien romances though I would consider Peebee. I find her very likable. I'm really doing this to see how the m/f romances stack up against the m/m romances.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 2, 2017 6:29:27 GMT
While I haven't played all the romances, the romances I have played or seen were all really well done in my opinion. I absolutely love Suvi's, being the exact kind of romance I was hoping to have in Mass Effect especially after Josephine's in DAI, with those two now being my favorite of each franchise. I also really like Cora's, especially the non-sex route which I'm glad in her case got equal attention. While they are the light romances, I also found Avela's and Keri's to be really sweet and well done. The others are really good as well to the point I can't think of a single bad romance among the bunch other than maybe subjective things on my part. Fair enough. I just felt Suvi, Liam, and Vetra were really lacking compared to the other romances. It's not solely because they didn't have sex scenes (although that was a factor), but they just didn't come across as having as much attention as some of the others. Without a doubt I believe Jaal, Peebe, and Cora likely got the most attention from BioWare. Those romances seemed the most "complete" in my opinion. That's not the say the others were bad, but they just felt lacking. The romance with Avela was okay, but I felt the one with Keri was somewhat odd and didn't make a lot of sense. I romanced Gil and Reyes (in the same run, since the game doesn't allow either man to acknowledge the other romance). I felt like Gil's was extremely slow to move forward but then leaped from mild flirting to "boyfriends" and then sex to "married with children". Too slow and then too fast. It was sweet enough but the pacing was terrible. Reyes was kind of interesting. I kind of liked it. People may say it's a fling but after the fight on Meridian it's clear that Reyes still considers Ryder to be his guy. This one seemed more organic to me and, while they like one another, they haven't worked out where it's going. Seems like a natural progression since a lot is going on and neither is really in a position to settle down just yet. If BioWare could fix the dialogue where Vetra refers to Scott as "queen" and "baroness" it would be pretty awesome. Otherwise, it's like when you do a gender swap in ME1 and your male Shepard gets called "princess" and "ma'am". EDIT: Just started a new playthrough and considering romancing Cora. I'm not huge on alien romances though I would consider Peebee. I find her very likable. I'm really doing this to see how the m/f romances stack up against the m/m romances. I found pacing to be rather poor overall with everyone I flirted with. However, that may just be due to me being a completionist and the romance not advancing until you get further in the critical path and loyalty mission. I romanced Cora first and it really didn't go anywhere for the first 80 hours I invested. I honestly wasn't sure whether or not I was in a relationship with her until the sex scene just randomly happened. I haven't personally dabbled with m/m romances, but folks on here seem to think BioWare did a rather poor job compared to the other romances. I just wish BioWare was more consistent with every romance, rather than some characters getting more while others get less. There doesn't appear to be any logic for why some characters get more attention while others don't.
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Post by bekkael on Apr 2, 2017 6:43:07 GMT
Jaal romance was great; decent amount of content and little acknowledgments sprinkled throughout the game that made the romance feel more important and ongoing. I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough and have flirted with only Liam and "locked in" romance with him. Although I really like his character, he clearly is a bare bones romance and didn't receive the kind of attention or writing given to Jaal's character, which is really sad. I may try Reyes at some later time in the future, but the bugs have dimmed any desire to roll new characters. (I have no opinions on the other romances as I never romance chicks.)
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 2, 2017 6:59:15 GMT
Jaal romance was great; decent amount of content and little acknowledgments sprinkled throughout the game that made the romance feel more important and ongoing. I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough and have flirted with only Liam and "locked in" romance with him. Although I really like his character, he clearly is a bare bones romance and didn't receive the kind of attention or writing given to Jaal's character, which is really sad. I may try Reyes at some later time in the future, but the bugs have dimmed any desire to roll new characters. (I have no opinions on the other romances as I never romance chicks.) I didn't romance Jaal, but it was rather obvious he got a lot of attention. The angara, in general, received a lot of care and dedication by BioWare. I never play female protagonists, but even just watching the romance scene on YouTube showed the Jaal romance was on an entirely different level from the rest. Liam is a really funny and likable character, which is why its a shame his romance seems to be so underdeveloped. It's similar with Vetra, who I felt is a really great character but the actual romance is rather unfulfilling. I just wish there was a bit more consistency with the quality of each romance rather than some being great and others being disappointing.
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Post by fraggle on Apr 2, 2017 7:45:26 GMT
I started with a male Ryder and flirted with Peebee, Cora and Gil. The majority of the flirt options made me cringe so hard that I almost considered not romancing anyone. Then along came Reyes. Natural progression, good pacing, the flirt choices were really good, fit perfect in the context and were toned down from the terrible flirts with the crew, so I went for him. I didn't regret it at all, a really good romance, or fling if you want. I haven't yet had a chance to check out the options for female Ryder, but I expect them to be similar with the crew.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Apr 2, 2017 7:58:58 GMT
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Post by Command0rk on Apr 2, 2017 8:06:45 GMT
I've only romanced Peebee so far, and I'm going to have a hard time getting by her in subsequent playthroughs. Loved her arc and the way the romance fits into it, just found her to be very well written in general. One of my new favourites of the series. I agree Bioware has definitely improved in this department, they delivered on the more organic approach they wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 11:23:09 GMT
For me it was rather disappointing and that's all i'm saying.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 2, 2017 12:46:27 GMT
My first playthrough, I romanced Suvi. Wasn't bad. I like the scene with the tea in the cabin My second playthrough, I romanced Liam. I liked it. The part with the jet pack I liked. My third playthrough, I will be romancing Cora. I just started flirting with her.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 13:02:20 GMT
They neglected their female players once again. I looked over all of the romances in YouTube and boy is there a HUGE difference between male Ryder and female Ryder's romances. It's VERY offensive. Male Ryder gets hard core porn naked sex scenes and he get jealousy comments from his Li's if he romances several at a time, while female Ryder gets her sex scenes (except for hideous alien Jaal ofc) faded to black and only lasted two sec and if she tries to romance several at once, they automatically goes to friendship mode, no comments or anything about each other. It really pisses me off how much Bioware neglects their female fan base like this. I know this also counts for the gay fan base though, so them too. I just hope they're smart enough to do something about it in a future dlc but I have my doubts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:09:59 GMT
I did not find the kind of romance I liked. I have checked out flirts on Liam, Jaal, PeeBee and Vetra. I am playing a fourth planet, and so far the romances have not been prominent. I haven't so much as a kissing scene. The most romantic thing I got was Jaal's letter about "dearest". I would have liked Jaal more if not for the manner he is voiced in. His VA delivers dialogues so slowly, that it feels like he is a senior citizen. While it is an interesting concept, and highlights him being an alien, it does not do much in terms of romantic attachement for me. I have met Reyes, but was not offered flirts yet.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 13:14:40 GMT
Reyes was my absolute favorite but ofc we didn't get enough content cause we're women fans....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:26:47 GMT
Never been one for doing the sideways shuffle with aliens so Cora was my only option this time round. It's actually been OK I think, what I saw of it when I wasn't scrunching my eyes in embarrassment seemed really good for those of you who are romantically inclined or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:28:05 GMT
Reyes was my absolute favorite but ofc we didn't get enough content cause we're women fans.... Did he have a hairy chest?
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 13:34:10 GMT
Reyes was my absolute favorite but ofc we didn't get enough content cause we're women fans.... Did he have a hairy chest? I'm a woman... Bioware didn't give us a sex scene.. so I don't know
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:38:15 GMT
Did he have a hairy chest? I'm a woman... Bioware didn't give us a sex scene.. so I don't know They didn't? A character like Reyes and all you get is a fade to black? That'll piss off the gay guys too cause I think he's bi isn't he?
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 13:43:54 GMT
I'm a woman... Bioware didn't give us a sex scene.. so I don't know They didn't? A character like Reyes and all you get is a fade to black? That'll piss off the gay guys too cause I think he's bi isn't he? Yup. He's bi and it wasn't even a real sex scene, just a short make out thing while standing up, inside this cave lol. But seriously Bioware really screwed us over on the romance part and it's exactly a character like Reyes and Liam who should have gotten their proper sex scenes and contents. It's just favorism from their part. A "hello Pathfinder" was almost all I got from Liam the whole time. I felt like a teenager who had a school crush.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:58:50 GMT
They didn't? A character like Reyes and all you get is a fade to black? That'll piss off the gay guys too cause I think he's bi isn't he? Yup. He's bi and it wasn't even a real sex scene, just a short make out thing while standing up, inside this cave lol. But seriously Bioware really screwed us over on the romance part and it's exactly a character like Reyes and Liam who should have gotten their proper sex scenes and contents. It's just favorism from their part. A "hello Pathfinder" was almost all I got from Liam the whole time. I felt like a teenager who had a school crush. That's a bit ridiculous I gotta be honest. I imagine a lot of females who play these sort of games would appreciate a more fleshed out romance ark (maybe more so than us lads even) so I don't get why they wouldn't put a lot of work in there for you. Would you say it's any better at least than romances like Kaidan or Jacob?
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 2, 2017 14:00:37 GMT
I did not find the kind of romance I liked. I have checked out flirts on Liam, Jaal, PeeBee and Vetra. I am playing a fourth planet, and so far the romances have not been prominent. I haven't so much as a kissing scene. The most romantic thing I got was Jaal's letter about "dearest". I would have liked Jaal more if not for the manner he is voiced in. His VA delivers dialogues so slowly, that it feels like he is a senior citizen. While it is an interesting concept, and highlights him being an alien, it does not do much in terms of romantic attachement for me. I have met Reyes, but was not offered flirts yet. I'm happy I'm not the only one who noticed Jaal's speed. I'm in a love/hate relationship with his voice acting because I actually like his delivery and for once it sounds somewhat alien, but when I choose "more questions" and see four unclicked options turn up, my first thought is "I'm gonna be here for the next fifteen minutes, aren't I?". So far I only romanced Vetra and she was quite sweet. It had the same problems all Bioware romances have, lack of special reactions to certain plot developments and weird pacing because of the way you can choose to spread out your main quests and side quests, but I think it was actually unique enough and having a substantial loyalty mission to bolster out character interaction really helped. It was one of my favourite ME romances so far. Not sure what do with my next gay Bro!Ryder yet. Not a fan of Gil, and Reyes is a bit too slippery/untrustworthy for him. I wanted to try out if Ryder felt significantly different on "professional answers only", since I chose mostly emotional/jokey ones last time around. I prefer squadmate romances to NPC romances, anyway, they just feel stronger. Considering that, he'll probably be single. I guess I could just pretend he's romancing Jaal by never taking him and Peebee anywhere together, lol. That last scene in Jaal's loyalty quest seems pretty romantic no matter who you're playing.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 14:14:58 GMT
Yup. He's bi and it wasn't even a real sex scene, just a short make out thing while standing up, inside this cave lol. But seriously Bioware really screwed us over on the romance part and it's exactly a character like Reyes and Liam who should have gotten their proper sex scenes and contents. It's just favorism from their part. A "hello Pathfinder" was almost all I got from Liam the whole time. I felt like a teenager who had a school crush. That's a bit ridiculous I gotta be honest. I imagine a lot of females who play these sort of games would appreciate a more fleshed out romance ark (maybe more so than us lads even) so I don't get why they wouldn't put a lot of work in there for you. Would you say it's any better at least than romances like Kaidan or Jacob? Agreed. I think Kaidan romance was much better, at least he got a somewhat decent sex scene plus decent content in comparison imo. I never liked Jacobs romance, so it's better than his. Don't get me wrong, mea in itself is an amazing game and I love it but I've always valued a good romance, that's why I'm disappointed and especially when it's not equal to the guys. Had it been equal, then I would have said okay it is what it is but seeing how much effort they put into the male Ryder's ark and not into the female Ryder, that just pisses me off, I can't help it. I'm as much a paying and a gamer as the male customers are, if not more sometimes, I bought a copy for both my consoles, Xbox one and PS4, they should value the shit out of me.
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Post by Petroshenko on Apr 2, 2017 14:16:04 GMT
They didn't? A character like Reyes and all you get is a fade to black? That'll piss off the gay guys too cause I think he's bi isn't he? Yup. He's bi and it wasn't even a real sex scene, just a short make out thing while standing up, inside this cave lol. But seriously Bioware really screwed us over on the romance part and it's exactly a character like Reyes and Liam who should have gotten their proper sex scenes and contents. It's just favorism from their part. A "hello Pathfinder" was almost all I got from Liam the whole time. I felt like a teenager who had a school crush. Jaal has explict sex scene, Liam doesn't but he's shirtless half the game. Then there's scene with him and Jaal naked and practically being a "romance window display" for female players. 2 exclusive male squadmates for female players and then additional bonus Reyes romance. What screwing up again? There is a certain playrbase that got screwed with romance but it ain't straight women.
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Post by ev76 on Apr 2, 2017 14:19:53 GMT
I really liked the Peebe romance. I thought it was well written and well paced through out the game. I also cheated on her with Keri and that was written well too. It was crazy how Keri knew I was in a relationship with someone, and the writing was handled maturely. I'm guessing eventually Peebe will find out about my pathfinder being an asari loving horn dog.
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onewomanarmy
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Theonewomanarmy
HypnoticEyes
A great deal, I'm an old timer
A LOT....
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 2, 2017 14:22:50 GMT
Yup. He's bi and it wasn't even a real sex scene, just a short make out thing while standing up, inside this cave lol. But seriously Bioware really screwed us over on the romance part and it's exactly a character like Reyes and Liam who should have gotten their proper sex scenes and contents. It's just favorism from their part. A "hello Pathfinder" was almost all I got from Liam the whole time. I felt like a teenager who had a school crush. Jaal has explict sex scene, Liam doesn't but he's shirtless half the game. Then there's scene with him and Jaal naked and practically being a "romance window display" for female players. 2 exclusive male squadmates for female players and then additional bonus Reyes romance. What screwing up again? There is a certain playrbase that got screwed with romance but it ain't straight women. Liam ain't naked and Jamal has sex scene yes but not everyone is into aliens. Male Ryder got sex scenes with Cora as well. And no.. Liam isn't shirtless half the game lol. Do your research, besides we aren't talking number of romances, so why mention Reyes? Guys got him too, I was talking about sex scenes and the lack of.
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