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Post by QuizzyBunny on Dec 14, 2017 1:01:50 GMT
*Tries to avoid looking at spoilers* So, anyone hear anything about when and if there's going to be a console version? I want this game soooo bad, but I really have to wait for a port... From what I've seen it looks amazing and it drives me crazy that I can't play it! Unfortunately, as far as I know there's been no information on a console release/port up to this point.
Considering that the first game was released on consoles at a later point after the initial PC release, it's not unreasonable to assume that the sequel will be similar, but as I said, no official announcements yet.
Ah well, thanks anyway... I guess I'll just go back to pining away, hopefully I won't have to wait a full year...
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Post by Iakus on Dec 14, 2017 15:29:46 GMT
*Tries to avoid looking at spoilers* So, anyone hear anything about when and if there's going to be a console version? I want this game soooo bad, but I really have to wait for a port... From what I've seen it looks amazing and it drives me crazy that I can't play it! Unfortunately, as far as I know there's been no information on a console release/port up to this point.
Considering that the first game was released on consoles at a later point after the initial PC release, it's not unreasonable to assume that the sequel will be similar, but as I said, no official announcements yet.
Larian is going to be at Pax South in January. They're teasing some kind of announcement then. Maybe a console release?
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Post by bladefist on Dec 18, 2017 23:15:30 GMT
I YIELD TO NONE!!! I'm loving every minute of this game, except when the enemy cheats and heals my undead character even though he's wearing a mask.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Dec 19, 2017 0:03:19 GMT
Yep, that's what every player couldn't figure out. There's a mod for it, reducing the possibility the opposition could see through Fane. However, if you're looking to gather up achievements, using any mod will make it impossible. I generally don't care about the achievements; I want to enjoy the game.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 27, 2017 9:42:09 GMT
Bought it on sale. I'm not really getting into it. Kinda troubled with the combat system and the EFFING UNDEAD THAT DIES WHEN HEALED. Fuck me, I restarted like five times now - the bloody lizard gets on me nerves. Also I'm seriously undergeared I feel. Now I'm trying with a Sebille PC as summoner. Bloody can't make wizards work - everything and everyone is burning and the effing undead gets owned always in round 1.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 27, 2017 12:14:52 GMT
Bought it on sale. I'm not really getting into it. Kinda troubled with the combat system and the EFFING UNDEAD THAT DIES WHEN HEALED. Fuck me, I restarted like five times now - the bloody lizard gets on me nerves. Also I'm seriously undergeared I feel. Now I'm trying with a Sebille PC as summoner. Bloody can't make wizards work - everything and everyone is burning and the effing undead gets owned always in round 1. If the troubles you are having are mostly with combat difficulty, you might want to lower the difficulty. It's already classic.
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Post by river82 on Dec 27, 2017 12:25:39 GMT
Bought it on sale. I'm not really getting into it. Kinda troubled with the combat system and the EFFING UNDEAD THAT DIES WHEN HEALED. Fuck me, I restarted like five times now - the bloody lizard gets on me nerves. Also I'm seriously undergeared I feel. Now I'm trying with a Sebille PC as summoner. Bloody can't make wizards work - everything and everyone is burning and the effing undead gets owned always in round 1. To heal an undead character use poison. Either poison flasks, or someone with a poison staff can fire bolts at him or something else
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 27, 2017 12:30:21 GMT
It's already classic. Well there's explorer mode as well. Not saying that as an insult either, different people are good at different types of games, and sometimes it takes awhile to familiarize yourself with how the game works etc. Well, I could reload the saves and retry, but I always have the nagging feeling my character pick and party are crap.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 27, 2017 14:01:51 GMT
Well, I could reload the saves and retry, but I always have the nagging feeling my character pick and party are crap. I don't remember a lot of character archetypes that would actually make your party completely not viable, but it's definitely a good idea to try and go for a balanced party.
Some recommendations: 1. Undead are cool, but as you observed yourself, the enemy can make life difficult for you. Though you can mitigate some of the difficulty by making sure that you have enough poison skills to heal yourself. 2. The warrior-shapshifter combination is a decent combo, you can potentially hit hard and be fairly tanky, not to mention that being able to sprout a pair of wings is an amazing boost to mobility. 3. Rogues can eventually hit very hard (possibly the hardest) if you know how to use them well. 4. Casters are very useful, especially because of how elemental surfaces work. An oil+fire combo always provides you with a nice explosion, and if you manage to create an electrified puddle in a strategic chokepoint sometimes it's even better. A caster can get a teleportation spell, which will allow you to fling your enemies around (unless they use certain buffs...) or drop oil/poison/water barrels on them .
I read some guides about the magic and phyisical protection layers - that provided some useful infos I should heed. Thx for the tips.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 28, 2017 10:03:42 GMT
Still unhappy with my party layout - I got no archer. I got the dwarf cleric, lizard knight, lohse is shadowrogue and PC is summoner. I've advanced a lot farther than in my 1st attempts though - more slowly executing the combats.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 2, 2018 9:58:38 GMT
Attempt number - idk - 6. This time I'm going with 4 mages. Kinda. 1 wizard. 1 Elementalist, 1 summoner and a witch. Seems to kinda work out.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Jan 2, 2018 10:57:42 GMT
Go for either physical damage or magic damage focused team and tankless, because enemies will just ignore the tank and go for the squishies. CC is king, so equip all of your team with good CC abilities.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 2, 2018 11:13:37 GMT
Go for either physical damage or magic damage focused team and tankless, because enemies will just ignore the tank and go for the squishies. CC is king, so equip all of your team with good CC abilities. Yea, spreading physical and magical doesn't look too effective. Not too happy with the Witch build, but the 3 other magic users do fine, mostly.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 2, 2018 22:44:00 GMT
Not too happy with the Witch build
I don't remember what exactly the Witch comes with, is it necromancy? If it is, the necromancy + Rogue combo hits hard, and since some enemies come with a lot of magical armor and less physical (or vice versa), it is still useful to be able to hit both types of armor.
So what I'm saying is that it might be possible to transform the witch into a necro-rogue, especially if you are still at the start.
I had a lot of success with an Inquisitor build (Necromancy+Warfare) Very hard to kill.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 3, 2018 6:27:24 GMT
Not too happy with the Witch build
I don't remember what exactly the Witch comes with, is it necromancy? If it is, the necromancy + Rogue combo hits hard, and since some enemies come with a lot of magical armor and less physical (or vice versa), it is still useful to be able to hit both types of armor.
So what I'm saying is that it might be possible to transform the witch into a necro-rogue, especially if you are still at the start.
Ye, it's necromancy. I put a couple of polymorph points in, because - well, I kinda felt like it. And I wanted some attribute points and see what happens. Originally planned as "pinner" the concept just doesn't work. I'm rather old school: Entering a "zone of control" used to stop units and characters in their tracks. Positioning a blocker in a door used to be very efficient. Characters going yolo and run past the front line characters used to take heavy penalties and risk serious damage or knockdowns. The "opportunist" trait is basically a waste for that purpose. The combat doesn't work like that and yet it does work - it's just different and hard to get into. Another thing that makes it underwhelming is that you don't see what you get when you decide for a class. A basic archetype and starter spells. No idea what the future brings and what might synergize well. Annoying. One of the reasons why I started like 7 times over. I'd have put it aside if the combat wasn't fun with playing around with the surfaces and create explosions and teleport enemies around.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 3, 2018 14:32:20 GMT
I had a lot of success with an Inquisitor build (Necromancy+Warfare) Very hard to kill. Interesting. I don't think that's one I tried. Might do it in the future. Use a big two-hander for maximum lifesteal
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Post by Iakus on Jan 3, 2018 14:36:26 GMT
I don't remember what exactly the Witch comes with, is it necromancy? If it is, the necromancy + Rogue combo hits hard, and since some enemies come with a lot of magical armor and less physical (or vice versa), it is still useful to be able to hit both types of armor.
So what I'm saying is that it might be possible to transform the witch into a necro-rogue, especially if you are still at the start.
Ye, it's necromancy. I put a couple of polymorph points in, because - well, I kinda felt like it. And I wanted some attribute points and see what happens. Originally planned as "pinner" the concept just doesn't work. I'm rather old school: Entering a "zone of control" used to stop units and characters in their tracks. Positioning a blocker in a door used to be very efficient. Characters going yolo and run past the front line characters used to take heavy penalties and risk serious damage or knockdowns. The "opportunist" trait is basically a waste for that purpose. The combat doesn't work like that and yet it does work - it's just different and hard to get into. Another thing that makes it underwhelming is that you don't see what you get when you decide for a class. A basic archetype and starter spells. No idea what the future brings and what might synergize well. Annoying. One of the reasons why I started like 7 times over. I'd have put it aside if the combat wasn't fun with playing around with the surfaces and create explosions and teleport enemies around. Opportunist is quite handy for melee-based characters. The game's AI is smart enough to target squishier characters and will try to go around heavy-hitters to get to them. Being able to take free swings at enemies that try to slip past can be a lifesaver. There isn't always an easy choke-point available.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2018 9:33:13 GMT
I've now left the island and reached the mainland. I was rewarded with a storage chest. I'm starting to have serious ingredient bloat issues, so that should come in handy. No idea what's all those recipes for. The stuff I find is better I guess. Only interesting thing seems to be grenades. I once refined a basic dinner into dwarven stew. It was worse than the normal dinner. Casually looked for another food refinement and same there. Seems redundant and superfluous. Finally have the summon at level 10+, now it's kicking ass.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2018 14:37:55 GMT
Gonna stick with the current setup. It's fun enough. I have a feeling that a grenade powered physical damage necro-polymorph murderhobo group might be quite effective (and funny), judging from the current incarnation in my group.
Rogue/shadowrogue play like Vanguards in mass effect. It's just they jump into enemy backs.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 4, 2018 16:28:08 GMT
I've now left the island and reached the mainland. I was rewarded with a storage chest. I'm starting to have serious ingredient bloat issues, so that should come in handy. No idea what's all those recipes for. The stuff I find is better I guess. Only interesting thing seems to be grenades. I once refined a basic dinner into dwarven stew. It was worse than the normal dinner. Casually looked for another food refinement and same there. Seems redundant and superfluous. Finally have the summon at level 10+, now it's kicking ass. I don't think I found any recipes worth making until near endgame that weren't quest-related.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 16:33:56 GMT
I've now left the island and reached the mainland. I was rewarded with a storage chest. I'm starting to have serious ingredient bloat issues, so that should come in handy. No idea what's all those recipes for. The stuff I find is better I guess. Only interesting thing seems to be grenades. I once refined a basic dinner into dwarven stew. It was worse than the normal dinner. Casually looked for another food refinement and same there. Seems redundant and superfluous. Finally have the summon at level 10+, now it's kicking ass. Crafting in this game seems almost the opposite of the previous one. In the previous one you were able to craft better weapons and gear than just about everything you were able to find. In this one, I think all I did was craft grenades and put runes into stuff. Maybe the occasional experiment too.
Oh, that sounds great. Is there any word on any updates/debugging/Journal rework for the game to eliminate the confusion with quests progression?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2018 16:38:06 GMT
I've now left the island and reached the mainland. I was rewarded with a storage chest. I'm starting to have serious ingredient bloat issues, so that should come in handy. No idea what's all those recipes for. The stuff I find is better I guess. Only interesting thing seems to be grenades. I once refined a basic dinner into dwarven stew. It was worse than the normal dinner. Casually looked for another food refinement and same there. Seems redundant and superfluous. Finally have the summon at level 10+, now it's kicking ass. I don't think I found any recipes worth making until near endgame that weren't quest-related. I guess that might depend - grenades don't go cooldown. -> big mayhem prospect
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2018 17:08:37 GMT
I guess that might depend - grenades don't go cooldown. -> big mayhem prospect Some of the most useful grenades require some rather exotic ingredients, or are rather expensive to buy, so you can't really depend on them too much.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2018 17:16:18 GMT
It's not *that* bad. Towards the end of the game I had some high level grenades on practically every character.
The point is that it's more of a thing to use in a pinch than it is something equivalent to spells or abilities you use every fight. (though, the simpler grenades are much easier to make IIRC, like a bottle of oil, balloon of water, etc.)
You could also cheat a bit and look up the recipe for various grenades on the wiki if you don't want too much time on trial and error / wait until you finally find a recipe.
Yes, I believe it is mosty just barrel + container for the basic stuff. Molotovs galore. Bottles shoudn't be hard to find, yes?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 15, 2018 10:17:13 GMT
*sigh* I keep running into OP enemies that ohk my party. Scarecrow stands in field. Lures my character. I know what you're up to. Scarecrow animates like 5 other smaller ones. OHK the witch - and that guy has the most protection. OK I go elsewhere. Paladins at bridge tell me "uhoo, oho, terrible horrible voidcritter ahead" I understand "you guys not up for task" I go other direction.
Tried to sneak to a guy who fought against magisters. Guy teleports. NP, I can do, too. Just wanna help. Guy opens Voidcritter portals, turns enemy and suicides. Voidcritter spawn every turn. Enemy guy revives on top. WTF! I reload and go to investigate burning witch. Persuad 0/5. Boom - party dead.
Reload, go back and attack maggisters. Can finally continue. Quest sends me into "terrible horrible voidcritter ahead"-land. So I guess I try that next.
I get that challenge spices up things, but this isn't really funny.
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