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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 20:06:39 GMT
Bitching does have an effect on the devs... but it's not a positive one. It causes individuals on the developer's staff to become disheartened and quit... and the company has more difficulty hiring the "best talent" because those people would prefer to work for companies not taking such levels of heat for their past works. It's counterproductive. It's super productive - if they can't handle online criticisms, then gtfo they shouldn't be working for BioWare in the first place. Snowflakes everywhere. Just like you obviously can't handle even a little constructive criticism directed your way without lashing out like a two-year-old throwing a tantrum. A company without staff cannot make games... so, I guess you don't want any games to play, eh? It actually takes more guts to stifle the tantrum, stay focused on the overall goal, and word things in a constructive and helpful way than it does to just be negative and bitchy.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 20:12:52 GMT
Piss off? I thought we were all amused by him. Rude. Yeah, I was going for that.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 20:14:21 GMT
Yeah, I was going for that. There was honestly no need for that.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 20:17:35 GMT
I already reported his disrespectful posts; all we can hope is that someone from the staff does something. He has been very disruptive and we've been derailing this thread for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if it got shut down. Acting all high and mighty up on that high horse - like you and anyone else that loves the game are the white Knights of this forum - it's pretty disgusting and invites those who dislike the game to remain vocal. I've discussed the positives of the game, perhaps if you could discuss the negatives without resorting to tearing down the trilogy and other games, I might take you seriously. Patch is coming fast and furious though - you're welcome can't wait for the special announcement about the announcement about the upcoming fix announcement!
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 4, 2017 20:26:10 GMT
Bitching does have an effect on the devs... but it's not a positive one. It causes individuals on the developer's staff to become disheartened and quit... and the company has more difficulty hiring the "best talent" because those people would prefer to work for companies not taking such levels of heat for their past works. It's counterproductive. It's super productive - if they can't handle online criticisms, then gtfo they shouldn't be working for BioWare in the first place. Snowflakes everywhere. Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve.
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 20:28:00 GMT
It's super productive - if they can't handle online criticisms, then gtfo they shouldn't be working for BioWare in the first place. Snowflakes everywhere. Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve. Get better writers.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 4, 2017 20:31:23 GMT
Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve. Get better writers. I agree with this
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 20:34:48 GMT
It's super productive - if they can't handle online criticisms, then gtfo they shouldn't be working for BioWare in the first place. Snowflakes everywhere. Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve. Annnnd I've never said anything like that anywhere. Do I think there's a SJW influence on the game - yes, I think that's obvious. What appears to be happening from my perspective, is that everyone who doesn't like the game is lumped together in in the vein of your post - and our criticisms are trivialized and brushed off because "all Mass Effect games have these issues" when no, to this extent, they don't.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 20:35:36 GMT
Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve. Get better writers. And stop hiring fans. I didn't pay for fanfiction.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 4, 2017 20:38:00 GMT
Depends on what you saying. If you just saying "Stupid little SJW beta cuck snowflakes can't even write a good story. SAD!" you not really helping. Sure you said the writing is bad but you never bothered to explain how they can improve. Get better writers. You know... it would be almost funny if it wasn't so sad what some people consider to be constructive criticism They already have decent writers. Many of the writers who have written for MEA have also written for past BW titles that the people have enjoyed.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 20:40:34 GMT
Fanfiction? Without writers there wouldn't be sequels to anything. No more Final Fantasies, no more Dragon Ages, no more Mass Effects, no more Tell Tales Games, no more story centered games. Fanfictions can be just as good as any books out there. You're just looking for fights here and this is pointless. You got no respect for authors whatsoever and all the hard work they put into games. You got no idea what amount of stuff is cut by developers and what needs to be added at the last minute because of all the decisions the higher ups make. Clearly, you do not understand how gaming companies function at all. If you believe you can so much better, be my guest and do your own frigging game. Suikoden, you're all talks.
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 20:41:51 GMT
If you think EA and BioWare aren't scared shitless by the backlash over the animation and writing, then you live in an alternate reality. There's no way they would be rushing out a patch AND making special announcements for announcements for upcoming patches (lol) the day Persona 5 releases - a game that is a direct competitor for their RPG dollars, then again, you live in an alternate reality. But keep trying to denigrate other games and the original trilogy to prop up Andromeda. Buyer's remorse perhaps? Playing the forums more enjoyable than playing the game? You're welcome. Rushing out a patch? We've had day 1 patch and assurance that next one will be coming soon enough even prior to launch Patching games post-launch is a normal procedure these days and like I said hon: beloved titles have done that as well, announcements included. Horizon Zero Dawn had a dozen of patches already since release, Nier Automata had 5 or 6 already not a month after release and I can guarantee you Persona 5 will have one soon enough, that's almost a given. So who's living in alternate reality? Oh, and buyers remorse fallacy again - of course. Because there's just no way anybody can like a game AND provide constructive criticism at the same time. Nooo - it's just delusional biodrones who have to justify their purchase somehow and true fans of the series who come to the rescue with silly memes, dissing people for linking the game (even if they have their ow gripes) and complaining at everything from communists to Cthulu and hope that the sales will tank (even though apparently they did not). Like I said, you live in a fantasy world. You're not worth my time. Yes, a day one patch that didn't fix the animations and didn't fix the "problems" for the gays. It's almost as if that patch didn't address any criticism leveled against the game since early access, but yes please continue your straw man about other games and their patches. I already reported his disrespectful posts; all we can hope is that someone from the staff does something. He has been very disruptive and we've been derailing this thread for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if it got shut down. Reporting people because you don't like what they're saying is against the rules, but please ignore the rules that you don't agree with.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 20:46:16 GMT
Lorn , I'm already discussing this privately with Sofajokey so I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to push my buttons even further.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 20:53:11 GMT
Fanfiction? Without writers there wouldn't be sequels to anything. No more Final Fantasies, no more Dragon Ages, no more Mass Effects, no more Tell Tales Games, no more story centered games. Fanfictions can be just as good as any books out there. You're just looking for fights here and this is pointless. You got no respect for authors whatsoever and all the hard work they put into games. You got no idea what amount of stuff is cut by developers and what needs to be added at the last minute because of all the decisions the higher ups make. Clearly, you do not understand how gaming companies function at all. If you believe you can so much better, be my guest and do your own frigging game. Suikoden, you're all talks. Ahh the classic "well you should just make your own game then" defense. And if you think fanfiction can be just as good as an author's original work - that he/she put his heart and soul into, then we are at an impasse. You live in a different world. A comment like that is just insulting to actual authors. But if my disagreeing with you on virtually everything is indeed so traumatizing to the point where you start petitioning mods to remove me from the forums, you need to develop a thicker skin. The world doesn't always cater to your thoughts and feelings and opinions.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 4, 2017 20:54:51 GMT
Yes, a day one patch that didn't fix the animations and didn't fix the "problems" for the gays. It's almost as if that patch didn't address any criticism leveled against the game since early access, but yes please continue your straw man about other games and their patches. Yes, because the developers have a magical wand that can fix all the problems in a day! I mean, it's not like some issues with the game simply require more time After all, I'd like to point out that the Thursday patch also won't "fix the animations" at full extent or "fixed the problem for the gays". They said they'll be introducing changes at a later date. Why? Well, because some issues are not as simple as to be patched in a week or more. Not only they have to be Q&A tested, but given time for certification on consoles, for example. Some of these things can take weeks to months and considerable resources. Heck, in case of many games some of the problematic stuff has been known since internal Q&A months ago, but was simply given lower priority compared to other issues that needed to be squashed. Some animation issues for example are not as important as serious game-breaking bugs prior to tight schedule before the launch. ... Like really - if you have any interest in not just playing games but knowing how they work, you'd know that.
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 21:05:33 GMT
You know... it would be almost funny if it wasn't so sad what some people consider to be constructive criticism They already have decent writers. Many of the writers who have written for MEA have also written for past BW titles that the people have enjoyed.Except that assumes that the reasons they enjoyed those games was because of those writers. Unless we're still saying that "My face is tired..." is a great line.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 21:08:08 GMT
Fanfiction? Without writers there wouldn't be sequels to anything. No more Final Fantasies, no more Dragon Ages, no more Mass Effects, no more Tell Tales Games, no more story centered games. Fanfictions can be just as good as any books out there. You're just looking for fights here and this is pointless. You got no respect for authors whatsoever and all the hard work they put into games. You got no idea what amount of stuff is cut by developers and what needs to be added at the last minute because of all the decisions the higher ups make. Clearly, you do not understand how gaming companies function at all. If you believe you can so much better, be my guest and do your own frigging game. Suikoden, you're all talks. Ahh the classic "well you should just make your own game then" defense. And if you think fanfiction can be just as good as an author's original work - that he/she put his heart and soul into, then we are at an impasse. You live in a different world. A comment like that is just insulting to actual authors. But if my disagreeing with you on virtually everything is indeed so traumatizing to the point where you start petitioning mods to remove me from the forums, you need to develop a thicker skin. [ People would respect more if you didn't lash out at people who like the game and calling them fanboys snowflakes.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 4, 2017 21:15:56 GMT
You know... it would be almost funny if it wasn't so sad what some people consider to be constructive criticism They already have decent writers. Many of the writers who have written for MEA have also written for past BW titles that the people have enjoyed.Except that assumes that the reasons they enjoyed those games was because of those writers. Unless we're still saying that "My face is tired..." is a great line. We're talking specifically about writing and writers (and yes, I'm specifically talking about people enjoying work of those specific writers), so why are you suddenly deflecting to other things? Also - I gotta love that out of about 30 zillion lines you can only only choose one that everybody uses Can't find more? And as it happens, I have less problems with this line than others have. Why? Because if you listen to other dialogues with Addison, you'd know that when she's frustrated and fed up she stoops to clumsy poetry and she's embarrassed about it. Character quirk, yo.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Apr 4, 2017 21:17:50 GMT
You know... it would be almost funny if it wasn't so sad what some people consider to be constructive criticism They already have decent writers. Many of the writers who have written for MEA have also written for past BW titles that the people have enjoyed.Except that assumes that the reasons they enjoyed those games was because of those writers. Unless we're still saying that "My face is tired..." is a great line. but dude I say that IRL all the time dude
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 21:18:37 GMT
Except that assumes that the reasons they enjoyed those games was because of those writers. Unless we're still saying that "My face is tired..." is a great line. but dude I say that IRL all the time dude You're a Volus you don't have a face.
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Post by fchopin on Apr 4, 2017 21:22:03 GMT
Please relax and let's get back to talking about the game.
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Post by goishen on Apr 4, 2017 21:40:07 GMT
Welp, I went ahead and uninstalled it. I think what did it to me is them trying to turn it into an MMO. I haven't finished the story. I don't know how the story ends, because I don't care.
Also, I just cancelled my sub to SW:TOR. Playing as goody-goody as they want me to make my character makes me wanna puke. I guess all the games I wanna play are behind me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 21:44:33 GMT
Welp, I went ahead and uninstalled it. I think what did it to me is them trying to turn it into an MMO. I haven't finished the story. I don't know how the story ends, because I don't care. Also, I just cancelled my sub to SW:TOR. Playing as goody-goody as they want me to make my character makes me wanna puke. I guess all the games I wanna play are behind me. Determined to make FO4 work, even if it kills me. Determined to make TW3 work, even if it pains me. You do you, man. Fail to see what this has to do with this thread though, but i wish you luck!
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 21:49:12 GMT
@teddie Sage: I don't think it's useful to feign respect, but YMMV.
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 21:50:33 GMT
Ahh the classic "well you should just make your own game then" defense. And if you think fanfiction can be just as good as an author's original work - that he/she put his heart and soul into, then we are at an impasse. You live in a different world. A comment like that is just insulting to actual authors. But if my disagreeing with you on virtually everything is indeed so traumatizing to the point where you start petitioning mods to remove me from the forums, you need to develop a thicker skin. [ People would respect more if you didn't lash out at people who like the game and calling them fanboys snowflakes. Well, he wouldn't have the need if people wouldn't lash out at him in the first place. Of course, if you're offended at being called a fanboy when you are engaging in all of the behaviors of a fanboy... Except that assumes that the reasons they enjoyed those games was because of those writers. Unless we're still saying that "My face is tired..." is a great line. We're talking specifically about writing and writers (and yes, I'm specifically talking about people enjoying work of those specific writers), so why are you suddenly deflecting to other things?Also - I gotta love that out of about 30 zillion lines you can only only choose one that everybody uses Can't find more?And as it happens, I have less problems with this line than others have. Why? Because if you listen to other dialogues with Addison, you'd know that when she's frustrated and fed up she stoops to clumsy poetry and she's embarrassed about it. Character quirk, yo.Well if a writer didn't write the line "My face is tired..." then I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be discussing it. However, a writer did write said line and they did preface it with "I'm sorry I'm being a bitch, my face is tired...". Despite the numerous setbacks the Nexus has faced before Ryder shows up, both Addison and Tann both come off as unnecessarily pissy/negative towards Ryder. Fine, let's discuss Cora's lines on Habitat 7: Despite seeing the floating rocks at the same time as Liam first comments on it in the shuttles (not to mention heard it since the comms system seems to allow everyone to hear everything) she still expresses incredulity at seeing them when Ryder links up with the other shuttle. Following Cora's biotic shield, Liam says "I didn't know you were a biotic!" upon which Cora states "Don't worry, it's not contagious". Which while the line was meant to be "snarky" it comes off as being dickish instead. Returning to Addison, her repeated statements of "poetry" are hilarious as nothing she says even comes close to being poetry. She's about as poetic as the entirety of this post, and any claims she makes are insulting to the audience at best. At worst, it's just further indication that whoever wrote her needs to reevaluate their career choice. Moving off of everyone's favorite tired face queen, we have first contact with the Angarans. At first neither side could understand each other, but the moment Ryder walks off the Tempest suddenly everyone is communicating flawlessly. Neither side attempted to even learn each others languages, or even come up with other ways to attempt to communicate. We didn't even get a deus ex machina of SAM saying "Oh hey, I already translated their language, this is what they're saying", just straight to the full understanding. Do I need to go on?
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