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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 13:56:33 GMT
We don't learn much about the Kett besides the Archon in this game. We do know that the Angara who are turned into Kett remember being Angara though. Not doubting you, but do you remember where this was revealed? I think it was when I was talking with the Moshae on the Tempest. Not in the med-bay. She was sitting in a chair in the crew quarters chatting with Jaal and Liam. That or when we talked again on Aya.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:28:01 GMT
Yea this is why we need a timeline. I have no idea how old the Angara are and when the Jaardan created them. Its reasonable to say the Jaardan had a presence in the rest of the galaxy so I wonder if they are in hiding or are wiped out by whatever created the scurge assuming it wasn't them. Regarding the timeline - somehow things don't fit together: Edit! I found some more information in the Codex. The Angara were created around 1600 CE. The AI launched 2185 CE. The Scourge struck around 2400 CE. (According to the Codex, the Scourge weapon was detonated at the Remnant space station Khi Tasira, and instantaneously cause a cluster wide warping of space time.) The Kett came into Helius about 75 years ago, that would be around 2744. We now have the year 2819. The Angara already had space flight, and about 5? colonies. The remnant buildings were there, and the Angara learned a lot of their stuff, like we did from the Protheans. But the Jaardan were not there. At least the Angara don't remember that there were Jaardan. But if I interpret the stuff from the Meridian missions right, the Remnant hid the Meridian planet and left Helius because of the unknown enemy and the Scourge (which appeared 300 years ago). So, at the time the Angara developed spaceflight, (pre Scourge) the Remnant were still there? If they had colonies, spaceflight, knowledge about the existence of Remtech, I doubt they would NOT know about the Jaardan. Follow up thought! The Angara pre Scourge helmet we find on Havarl. When talking to the curator, Ryder says something along the line "Maybe there was Remtech in the helmet, or inside the Angaran pilot." Now - imagine it be something like Sam, implants or something. Maybe all the adults had remtech in them. The Scourge would kill all the adults. Only kids would survive. And kids would not remember much from before the Scourge. Also, how shitty is it, to just flee, and leave the Angara, your babies, your creation, back, alone, to deal with YOUR shit. I hope the Jaardan are good people, who just want to grow, and create, and build. But that was a shit thing to do. Holy shit I need to find this. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:31:15 GMT
Reapers, as far as we know, weren't capable of long, deep space travel. They still needed Mass Relays to move about the Milky Way in a reasonable fashion. We don't know exactly how far they went into dark space. That being said, Andromeda isn't the closest galaxy to the Milky Way either, so it's unlikely. Given the Catalyst's focus was entirely on maintaining order and stability in the Milky Way, I doubt it ever had any intention of exerting its warped cycle system of "preservation" on other species outside the Milky Way. Not to mention, I get the sense that the Scourge would likely rip through Reaper technology. We honestly don't know enough about the Jardaan to know if they are still alive, if they are capable of intergalactic travel, and whether they are friendly or hostile. I'm under the impression the Jardaan created the Scourge. Perhaps the Scourge is the Jardaan's version of the Reaper solution in order to keep their own technology in check? Perhaps it's another situation of something gone wrong much like the Leviathan with the Catalyst. Who knows? Welcome to the unofficial BSN, by the way. Wrong. The Reaper creating the Mass Relais to prevent new Species from finding another way traveling that fast and can flee at an invasion. At the normal invasion the Reaper stop the Relais from working and can so easy farm all species in the MilkyWay, at ME1 we break this circle and they have to start the farming the normal way. It isnt said that no Reaper ever go to another Galaxy, some of the Reaper are millions of years old. The Reapers were created as a solution to stop the Milky Way races from being destroyed by synthetics. There is no reason for them to travel to another galaxy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:31:18 GMT
Yea this is why we need a timeline. I have no idea how old the Angara are and when the Jaardan created them. Its reasonable to say the Jaardan had a presence in the rest of the galaxy so I wonder if they are in hiding or are wiped out by whatever created the scurge assuming it wasn't them. Regarding the timeline - somehow things don't fit together: Edit! I found some more information in the Codex. The Angara were created around 1600 CE. The AI launched 2185 CE. The Scourge struck around 2400 CE. (According to the Codex, the Scourge weapon was detonated at the Remnant space station Khi Tasira, and instantaneously cause a cluster wide warping of space time.) The Kett came into Helius about 75 years ago, that would be around 2744. We now have the year 2819. The Angara already had space flight, and about 5? colonies. The remnant buildings were there, and the Angara learned a lot of their stuff, like we did from the Protheans. But the Jaardan were not there. At least the Angara don't remember that there were Jaardan. But if I interpret the stuff from the Meridian missions right, the Remnant hid the Meridian planet and left Helius because of the unknown enemy and the Scourge (which appeared 300 years ago). So, at the time the Angara developed spaceflight, (pre Scourge) the Remnant were still there? If they had colonies, spaceflight, knowledge about the existence of Remtech, I doubt they would NOT know about the Jaardan. Follow up thought! The Angara pre Scourge helmet we find on Havarl. When talking to the curator, Ryder says something along the line "Maybe there was Remtech in the helmet, or inside the Angaran pilot." Now - imagine it be something like Sam, implants or something. Maybe all the adults had remtech in them. The Scourge would kill all the adults. Only kids would survive. And kids would not remember much from before the Scourge. Also, how shitty is it, to just flee, and leave the Angara, your babies, your creation, back, alone, to deal with YOUR shit. I hope the Jaardan are good people, who just want to grow, and create, and build. But that was a shit thing to do. My dear friend you are amazing!
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Post by neoiceman on Apr 5, 2017 12:30:41 GMT
Wrong. The Reaper creating the Mass Relais to prevent new Species from finding another way traveling that fast and can flee at an invasion. At the normal invasion the Reaper stop the Relais from working and can so easy farm all species in the MilkyWay, at ME1 we break this circle and they have to start the farming the normal way. It isnt said that no Reaper ever go to another Galaxy, some of the Reaper are millions of years old. The Reapers were created as a solution to stop the Milky Way races from being destroyed by synthetics. There is no reason for them to travel to another galaxy. Thats right but with every Farminground they evolve a little bit towards something new. The Kid ( Reaper ) let you 3 Choices and i think it is something the Repaer learned after assimilate so many cultures, letting a choice is a better solution over forcing something. They are more open minded after that long time as their master, yeah i know they humaliate them, ever tought they could be. Why should they not see possibilities to fullfill they job in other galaxys? i mean, hey they life so long they could go to the middlepoint of the Universe and dont have any regrets about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:32:59 GMT
The Reapers were created as a solution to stop the Milky Way races from being destroyed by synthetics. There is no reason for them to travel to another galaxy. Thats right but with every Farminground they evolve a little bit towards something new. The Kid ( Reaper ) let you 3 Choices and i think it is something the Repaer learned after assimilate so many cultures, letting a choice is a better solution over forcing something. They are more open minded after that long time as their master, yeah i know they humaliate them, ever tought they could be. Why should they not see possibilities to fullfill they job in other galaxys? i mean, hey they life so long they could go to the middlepoint of the Universe and dont have any regrets about it. The kid let you choose because the solution would no longer work because of the crucible. There is zero indication it is looking outside the galaxy.
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Post by neoiceman on Apr 5, 2017 13:48:45 GMT
Thats right but with every Farminground they evolve a little bit towards something new. The Kid ( Reaper ) let you 3 Choices and i think it is something the Repaer learned after assimilate so many cultures, letting a choice is a better solution over forcing something. They are more open minded after that long time as their master, yeah i know they humaliate them, ever tought they could be. Why should they not see possibilities to fullfill they job in other galaxys? i mean, hey they life so long they could go to the middlepoint of the Universe and dont have any regrets about it. The kid let you choose because the solution would no longer work because of the crucible. There is zero indication it is looking outside the galaxy. It is a sign for learning and evolving. And that implies an escaping out of the old happits and programming and expanding their routines. A little chance yeah i know but its still a chance that it can be interpreted this way
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:50:53 GMT
The kid let you choose because the solution would no longer work because of the crucible. There is zero indication it is looking outside the galaxy. It is a sign for learning and evolving. And that implies an escaping out of the old happits and programming and expanding their routines. A little chance yeah i know but its still a chance that it can be interpreted this way I understand, I just want nothing to do with the Reapers in this game. New galaxy of baddies to deal with.
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Post by neoiceman on Apr 5, 2017 13:58:13 GMT
It is a sign for learning and evolving. And that implies an escaping out of the old happits and programming and expanding their routines. A little chance yeah i know but its still a chance that it can be interpreted this way I understand, I just want nothing to do with the Reapers in this game. New galaxy of baddies to deal with. Yeah i think the same, new Enemys and suprises is an must in Andromeda.
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