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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Aug 29, 2016 2:39:33 GMT
I unlocked it last week and took it along for a failed Silver solo against Collecturds in which I wiped on wave 7 (because L2P and somehow getting stuck in the dead-end compartment behind the console in the midlevel on White). I added the basic AP mod V and basic damage mod V and the Valkyrie did big damage to everything, especially the mooks with their big bug heads. In fact, I got 10 headshots which is 10 more than I usually get.
Basically I was just experimenting with the weapon (which looks kind of like the Onion Thrower Falcon so I was disinclined to use it) but found it to be pretty sweet. Kinda like the Vindicator would be if it had a higher ROF and didn't suck.
Of course, I haven't used it on Gold yet and I know some weapons are totally ineffective there. Is it worth breaking the Valkyrie AR out more often? |
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Post by akots on Aug 29, 2016 3:44:59 GMT
I don't think I have seen it ever in any pug on gold or platinum for the past two years. But I heard stories of some better players who can make it work. Main reason I don't use it is its recoil as the second shot gets off to dissipate into nowhere. IMHO, argus hits almost as hard and has the third shot. I'm generally better off with raptor or even supressor if I feel an urgent need for painful masochistic exercise for my trigger finger. IIRC, I soloed silver to do the challenge and never touched that gun again. Although I did not get an impression that it is a bad gun. By no means it is bad, it is just the gun that turns the game into a chore and hard work.
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Post by SalMasRac on Aug 29, 2016 4:15:17 GMT
I thought I'd be cool one time and used it on my SE, then got called a noob by Mr Trouzerz, resulting in a 3 match scorewhore showdown, and then we were like friends n shit
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Post by HamleticTortoise on Aug 29, 2016 6:28:15 GMT
If I remember correctly, the Valkyrie has a higher headshot modifier than most guns, so it rewards (and teaches) going for headshots. Like most guns, Turians are the answer (geth too in this instance): the passives help with the stability, and TGI, TSab and TSent have staggering powers. It suffers a bit from all the click-click-clicking IMO, but that doesn't deter me from taking it out regularly. It's definitely gold-worthy!  |
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Aug 29, 2016 7:00:54 GMT
I thought I'd be cool one time and used it on my SE, then got called a noob by Mr Trouzerz, resulting in a 3 match scorewhore showdown, and then we were like friends n shit LOL. Needs moar vids |
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Post by SalMasRac on Aug 29, 2016 7:47:19 GMT
I thought I'd be cool one time and used it on my SE, then got called a noob by Mr Trouzerz, resulting in a 3 match scorewhore showdown, and then we were like friends n shit LOL. Needs moar vids Here were some of the more memorable games: |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Aug 29, 2016 11:41:19 GMT
Pretty sweet gun if you get used the the 2 shot burst (0.25 refire delay).
*3 HS multiplier isnt a game breaker, but still cool on MM kits and stagger ones too
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Aug 29, 2016 11:55:48 GMT
Valkyrie isn't something super amazing, but it's a nice change of pace from Carriers or PPR's. It's definitely better than the Argus on the majority of kits, because it has much faster refire time and that 300% headshot modifier is nothing to scoff at. If you can hit headshots that is.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 29, 2016 12:53:19 GMT
Awesome on Turians (of course), also on Geth Trooper (weapons build) or Geth Engineer (Overload / Neural Shock). Or Marksman characters.
It's totally Platinum Viable (tm) although your trigger finger will be killing you after the game. Actually, Valkyrie might be even easier to use on Plat than on Gold, because there are so many bosses with big 'heads' to shoot at as opposed to humanoids with actual head-sized heads.
I like ammo/damage barrel on the gun itself, and then to use AP rounds.
I never know if the Stability gear/consumable actually helps guns like this...?
Edited to Add: of course you must play at least one game as the Asari Valkyrie Sentinel with the Valkyrie Assault Rifle because Valkyries!
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Aug 29, 2016 13:09:22 GMT
I genuinely hate the thing. I've been trolled by upgrades to it across every account I've ever used. I had a Valkyrie X before I had a Venom I, and I can honestly say I've never enjoyed a single game using it. Scrub status confirmed and embraced fully. I suspect it's worse off-host than most weapons in the game, but escapes discussion of that fact because it's easier just to write it off as a L2P issue. TSol is about the only character I might still think about using it on, because TSol.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2016 13:45:45 GMT
I really like it. Fits perfectly for my Saboturi. I guess I put too much stabilisers on with what the Turian passives but I always forget when they won't work and so I just go for sure. In genereal I switch between high level AP or Drill ammo.
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Post by inert on Aug 29, 2016 14:18:29 GMT
Wait a second.... what's wrong with the Falcon? It's a weaker and therefore classier and less annoying version of the Venom (The poor man's Venom). Great at applying ammo effect - Cryo Engineer is a stagger-beast.
I liked the Valkyrie ok on my Xbox profile. Found the Harrier to be a better substitute in almost all cases though. Then again, I don't have the best aim. It's the only UR I haven't unlocked after nearly 400 hours on PC.
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 29, 2016 14:42:01 GMT
Make it uber good: Throw that shiz on the TSol, totally gold viable. It's like firing a AN 94 (if anyone ever played BF).
Super accurate for those headshots. Just aim and spam lef click until stuff is dead. Repeat.
I like going just full damage with it. I pick the heavy barrel thing (+25 percent damage), extended mags so it's less of a reload tutorial gun and then pick AP ammo for the +50% damage.
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Post by GordianKnot42 on Aug 29, 2016 15:19:24 GMT
It's pretty awesome, especially on anything with a headshot bonus (i.e. Turians).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 15:37:50 GMT
Use Turians
here's a super ancient and crappy quality video that sorta illustrates my point
In conclusion, use Turians
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Post by Nightman on Aug 29, 2016 15:56:35 GMT
It's a head shot machine.
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Post by Beerfish on Aug 29, 2016 17:03:01 GMT
I have never liked this gun at all but I fully acknowledge that it is a 'skill' weapon that some players can do wonderfully well with.
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Post by Arkhne on Aug 29, 2016 19:31:01 GMT
It's not worth using.
This is not to say it can't be used on Gold/Plat, just that it isn't worth using. There is almost always a better option. For its weight, the damage is underwhelming. Most people who have played with me regularly can tell you that I'm no scrub when it comes to aiming (especially for a PS3/console player), and even on the Geth Engineer, I find that the second shot is woefully inaccurate. If the first shot hits the head of a cannibal (basically centre mass), and the second shot hits the wall (not all the time, but often enough that I would not consider it a particularly accurate weapon).
I much prefer the Saber (which is ever so slightly heavier, but not enough to be practically different), and even prefer the Argus. I do not find it an enjoyable gun, and find little reason to recommend it below level X, as at lower levels, Gold rarity weapons will perform better in almost every situation.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Aug 29, 2016 19:44:50 GMT
It's not worth using. This is not to say it can't be used on Gold/Plat, just that it isn't worth using. There is almost always a better option. For its weight, the damage is underwhelming. Most people who have played with me regularly can tell you that I'm no scrub when it comes to aiming (especially for a PS3/console player), and even on the Geth Engineer, I find that the second shot is woefully inaccurate. If the first shot hits the head of a cannibal (basically centre mass), and the second shot hits the wall (not all the time, but often enough that I would not consider it a particularly accurate weapon). I much prefer the Saber (which is ever so slightly heavier, but not enough to be practically different), and even prefer the Argus. I do not find it an enjoyable gun, and find little reason to recommend it below level X, as at lower levels, Gold rarity weapons will perform better in almost every situation. There's always a better option. So we should all use Talon GI's, Reegars, Arc Pistols or souped up Black Widows  Saber is better no doubt, but the Argus is not. |
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Post by Arkhne on Aug 29, 2016 20:05:51 GMT
It's not worth using. This is not to say it can't be used on Gold/Plat, just that it isn't worth using. There is almost always a better option. For its weight, the damage is underwhelming. Most people who have played with me regularly can tell you that I'm no scrub when it comes to aiming (especially for a PS3/console player), and even on the Geth Engineer, I find that the second shot is woefully inaccurate. If the first shot hits the head of a cannibal (basically centre mass), and the second shot hits the wall (not all the time, but often enough that I would not consider it a particularly accurate weapon). I much prefer the Saber (which is ever so slightly heavier, but not enough to be practically different), and even prefer the Argus. I do not find it an enjoyable gun, and find little reason to recommend it below level X, as at lower levels, Gold rarity weapons will perform better in almost every situation. There's always a better option. So we should all use Talon GI's, Reegars, Arc Pistols or souped up Black Widows Saber is better no doubt, but the Argus is not. Claymoar > Talon. Raider > Reegar. Widow > Black Widow. Sadly can't argue with the Arc Pistol though, it's epic. Just requires aiming skill and practice from the player. |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Aug 29, 2016 20:54:57 GMT
There's always a better option. So we should all use Talon GI's, Reegars, Arc Pistols or souped up Black Widows Saber is better no doubt, but the Argus is not. Claymoar > Talon. Raider > Reegar. Widow > Black Widow. Sadly can't argue with the Arc Pistol though, it's epic. Just requires aiming skill and practice from the player. Hahaha  Talon is a lot better than Claymore on certain kits like GI. It's a mini weightless shotgun with 7 shots and fast reload with bonus damage to barriers/shields Black Widow is miles ahead of Widow and that's not even a contest. Reegar/Raider - that's a "fairer" comparison, but nothing can cheese incendiary ammo like Reegar. |
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Post by Arkhne on Aug 29, 2016 21:00:04 GMT
Claymoar > Talon. Raider > Reegar. Widow > Black Widow. Sadly can't argue with the Arc Pistol though, it's epic. Just requires aiming skill and practice from the player. Hahaha Talon is a lot better than Claymore on certain kits like GI. It's a mini weightless shotgun with 7 shots and fast reload with bonus damage to barriers/shields Black Widow is miles ahead of Widow and that's not even a contest. Reegar/Raider - that's a "fairer" comparison, but nothing can cheese incendiary ammo like Reegar. Claymore has a hell of a lot more OSK potential than the Talon. I have the Talon at X, and in almost every single situation, I'd prefer the Claymoar. With reload cancelling, Widow and Black Widow are almost identical fire rates (Widow being ever so slightly behind, with slightly more damage per shot), so no, it is not "miles" ahead. As to Raider/Reegar, your only arguement is bug exploitation? |
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Post by jmac1424 on Aug 29, 2016 21:18:54 GMT
Valkyrie is fun, nice change of pace. I like using it. Now, at anything below 6 or 7, some Rare ARs are better. But, I like it alot and I'm definitely not getting into a pissing contest about what it's better than and all that shit. I just like the thing. I put it on Havoc and go to work.
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Post by SalMasRac on Aug 29, 2016 21:21:53 GMT
Valkyrie is fun, nice change of pace. I like using it. Now, at anything below 6 or 7, some Rare ARs are better. But, I like it alot and I'm definitely not getting into a pissing contest about what it's better than and all that shit. I just like the thing. I put it on Havoc and go to work. My Havoc takes an Incendiary Reegar, teleports to spawns, and steals Grenades from the AIU. We'll see who's the cheesiest! |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Aug 29, 2016 21:37:49 GMT
Hahaha Talon is a lot better than Claymore on certain kits like GI. It's a mini weightless shotgun with 7 shots and fast reload with bonus damage to barriers/shields Black Widow is miles ahead of Widow and that's not even a contest. Reegar/Raider - that's a "fairer" comparison, but nothing can cheese incendiary ammo like Reegar. Claymore has a hell of a lot more OSK potential than the Talon. I have the Talon at X, and in almost every single situation, I'd prefer the Claymoar. With reload cancelling, Widow and Black Widow are almost identical fire rates (Widow being ever so slightly behind, with slightly more damage per shot), so no, it is not "miles" ahead. As to Raider/Reegar, your only arguement is bug exploitation? Are you serious? Talon Gi can solo Platinum in 17 minutes. No Claymore kit can do that. And while I love the Claymore, it's damage is overkill on most mook type enemies. Black Widow is MILES and MILES ahead of regular Widow. And it's simply not true that RC Widow can shoot as fast as BW. BW will empty it's 3 shot clip before you manage to fire 2 shots. With a BW and Phasic rounds I can kill 3 Centurions with body shots on Gold while you shoot 1, then reload, then scope in for another shot. BW is a contender for best sniper in the game vs the Javelin. I don't like the Reegar. I actually hate the Reegar and I almost never use it. I do like the Raider. Both can be total powerhouses. But Reegar has insane damage and strips shields like it's nothing. And it's super easy to use. No wonder n00bs love it and can't hit jack with a Raider. With these 2 it depends on the map and the kit. On some maps Raider will outdo the Reegar, on something like Glacier - Reegar may win. |
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