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Post by L2 Sentinel on Apr 6, 2017 9:47:21 GMT
If I could have my way, I'd love a brand new character. For me, I'd want a gay quarian male that either comes in DLC involving the arrival of the quarian ark, or stowaways in the turian ark or something to explain why he arrived ahead of everyone else. Maybe he was on a pilgrimage and ended up somewhere he shouldn't have. That'd be neat. But I'd also want him to be better integrated into Andromeda than Javik was in ME3, which I doubt is even feasible. This is my ideal option.
The option I'd be okay with that's more realistic is if they drastically improved on Gil's romance in particular. I'd want unique assets, like an actual face model and stuff. Make it impossible to replicate him in in the character creator (and give Suvi the same treatment while we're at it). I'd want the ability to bypass the Jill stuff entirely and have a romance that was actually romantic and less about his relentless "friend" wanting his sperm. I'd want them to connect on a deeper, more personal level. The whole thing just feels so rushed. You barely agree to be his boyfriend and it's babies babies babies.
What I expect is some band-aid fixes for Gil and Reyes. Some animation tweaks here and there, a couple of new dialogue options and e-mails, and way too much attention payed to rendering a cutscene in which Gil's ass is visible, but not actually addressing the lack of substance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 10:07:57 GMT
Well I've been lurking for a long while now. Ups and downs.
I have zero hopes for this, it will probably just be some animation fixes, especially due to the wording. I guess we'll see in two months? Honestly part of me hopes Drack becomes another romance option seeing as any Ryder can hit on him and he doesn't exactly reject it. He's already in the team, already has content, no need to create a whole new character and make sure they fit in. It will just be making the romance lines. If they do this I will forgive Bioware for everything. Plus I have a thing for Krogan and Turian.
But I know they won't so I have no hopes for it and all of this is just very wishful thinking!
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 6, 2017 15:29:04 GMT
Scott/Jaal would make things a lot better, I think.
So would Scott and another human female.
Which, ironically, would probably only be Sloane.
Maybe after you save her ass.
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Post by swagmaster97 on Apr 7, 2017 6:03:13 GMT
M/M romances are not my thing but... I know Gil is gay, and the whole time he was telling me about his baby all I could think was "does this still happen if you romance him"? Seriously, I can't imagine being gay and this dude being my only real romance option (oh yeah, now my Scott can raise a kid with Gil & Jill... awesome)... now I see why the LGBT gamer community was so angry. They should have just made Jaal bisexual.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 9, 2017 5:38:39 GMT
I don't want more quantity.
I want them to improve QUALITY.
The quality failed when they made two characters off the ugly character creator assets instead of unique art assets like the squad mates. Can you recreate Liam or Cora in character creator? NO. Do Cora and Liam have the same bad skin as character creator NPC's? NO, they have higher rez faces.
Even the bodies for Gil and Reyes are virtual copies of every male NPC body in the game. It's not like James Vega or Kaidan who had distinct models.
I would have killed for a James Vega love interest. I was so bitter I couldn't have my way with Freddie Prince Jr. in ME3, so unfair. Instead they gave me the hideous character creator butter face Cortez.
ME:A is just a continuation to the trend of marginalizing M/M romances. Although the Suvi romance was also pretty bad, but at least lesbians get Peebee.
I don't want an alien romance. Alien romances are a joke. Male aliens are not attractive like asari are attarctive, because male aliens don't have male human similar bodies like asari do.
The fact is, we barely get any post game or even mid game dialogue with Reyes Vidal. His romance is entirely the Kadara story.
We don't need a squad mate romance, but that romance needs to be as prominent in our journey as any squad mate.
Quite honestly, I'd replace Liam for Reyes in my ship.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 9, 2017 9:17:05 GMT
Nah I want Alien Romances, I'm sick of my only options being two humans I don't give a crap about.
Giving Reyes more lines isn't going to fix that. It's still the same 2 options.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 14:43:44 GMT
Nah I want Alien Romances, I'm sick of my only options being two humans I don't give a crap about. Giving Reyes more lines isn't going to fix that. It's still the same 2 options. Mhm giving Reyes or Gil more lines doesn't stop the fact that we still have zero squad mate options. I'm playing a setting that takes place in a different universe, I'm not going to want to sleep with boring humans, give me some aliens! Turian or Krogan!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 15:13:40 GMT
Reyes expansion would be my preference at this point. It is worded as an "improvement" so I can't see it including a whole new romance. If they unlock Jaal's for male PCs, I am all for it, but myself won't take this option. Avitus could have been great, but you get the Turian story so late in the game, I dunno. I did not see anyone but Reyes in the early story that could make a great character to romance planet-side.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 14, 2017 0:48:16 GMT
Most likely they will improve the dance for Reyes and the sex scene for Gill and other minor things. And when the first story-DLC comes there probably will be a DLC-bound NPC (similar to Mark of the Assasin´s Tallis)who acts as a companion during the DLC and can be romanced only to depart after the DLC and return for the final scene (if they return at all). Changes to existing NPCs or adding new squad-members to the whole game are pretty unlikely, even I personally would prefer that. Agreed, I doubt we'll see much in the way of changes to existing romances aside from technical fixes. As you said though a DLC similar to Lair of the Shadow Broker for the old Liara-mancers isn't out of the question. Part of the reason LotSB came out to be so great for Liara lovers was the feedback we gave BW on exactly what we wanted to see (those threads on the old BW forums after ME2 released were huge and heated but they were able to sift through it enough to give us, almost, exactly what we asked for). So in that spirit, and since I'm not even remotely an expert on BW's m/m romances, what were some of the best ones? What would folks like to see done better, and what would you like to see them avoid doing?
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Post by pensieve on Apr 14, 2017 17:26:31 GMT
Before I started playing I wanted them to include Jaal as a romance option, but after playing I have zero interest in romancing Jaal. I don't have any idea which NPC to add as a romance for a male Ryder. But I would like more content for Gil (and possibly Reyes). I want something like in DAI, when I can go to him for a kiss whenever I please. Gil definitely needs more kissing and hugging. And I want a kiss at the end of the game without the damned baby!
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 14, 2017 21:20:47 GMT
M/M romances are not my thing but... I know Gil is gay, and the whole time he was telling me about his baby all I could think was "does this still happen if you romance him"? Seriously, I can't imagine being gay and this dude being my only real romance option (oh yeah, now my Scott can raise a kid with Gil & Jill... awesome)... now I see why the LGBT gamer community was so angry. They should have just made Jaal bisexual. Yupppp. I feel that if anyone has an ounce of understanding in them, they'd see at least something along these lines. They don't need to be gay themselves. I expect band aids and at best, another Reyes-sized thing in a DLC - either extension of maybe Gil (after said earlier band aids), or a new character. And hopefully a better attempt in the next game, coming out in sooner time.
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Post by Evanoel on Apr 16, 2017 0:27:48 GMT
I've gotta remind you all that the so called patch is to "Improve romance for male Ryder." (CMIIW)
So, it's not necessarily for m/m ones. For all we know perhaps they want to polish that sex scene with Cora even more, lol
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Post by Schmooples on Apr 16, 2017 0:42:22 GMT
I've gotta remind you all that the so called patch is to "Improve romance for male Ryder." (CMIIW) So, it's not necessarily for m/m ones. For all we know perhaps they want to polish that sex scene with Cora even more, lol It does say male romance options for Scott. See here. Personally, I just wish for more lines, emails from Reyes, and the possibility to smooch your LI whenever you want.
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Post by Evanoel on Apr 16, 2017 0:45:13 GMT
I've gotta remind you all that the so called patch is to "Improve romance for male Ryder." (CMIIW) So, it's not necessarily for m/m ones. For all we know perhaps they want to polish that sex scene with Cora even more, lol It does say male romance options for Scott. See here. Personally, I just wish for more lines, emails from Reyes, and the possibility to smooch your LI whenever you want. Yes please, just like with Dorian. That's all I need while I'm waiting for the next installment.
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Post by turianlannister on Apr 16, 2017 19:16:21 GMT
hahahah this is rich. There are two human male romances for scott yet straight scott only gets cora as a human option. And people are saying they "expect"??? Can we be more petty? Gaymers have been asking for an alien romance for years, they have every right to want to romance an alien and oh boo hoo you got a straight romance with more content that both Gil and Reyes combined.
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Post by turianlannister on Apr 16, 2017 19:19:10 GMT
Scott/Jaal would make things a lot better, I think. So would Scott and another human female. Which, ironically, would probably only be Sloane. Maybe after you save her ass. If Sloane was made available to MRyder only there'd be a lot of pissed of gamers
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Post by turianlannister on Apr 16, 2017 19:22:50 GMT
I don't want more quantity. I want them to improve QUALITY. The quality failed when they made two characters off the ugly character creator assets instead of unique art assets like the squad mates. Can you recreate Liam or Cora in character creator? NO. Do Cora and Liam have the same bad skin as character creator NPC's? NO, they have higher rez faces. Even the bodies for Gil and Reyes are virtual copies of every male NPC body in the game. It's not like James Vega or Kaidan who had distinct models. I would have killed for a James Vega love interest. I was so bitter I couldn't have my way with Freddie Prince Jr. in ME3, so unfair. Instead they gave me the hideous character creator butter face Cortez. ME:A is just a continuation to the trend of marginalizing M/M romances. Although the Suvi romance was also pretty bad, but at least lesbians get Peebee. I don't want an alien romance. Alien romances are a joke. Male aliens are not attractive like asari are attarctive, because male aliens don't have male human similar bodies like asari do. Only Vega had a unique body, Kaidan's was a copy of MShep's You might not want an alien romance but a lot of gaymers do, they've been asking for an alien romance for years and expected Andromeda to finally deliver. Lesbians also got Vetra, Vetra > PeeBee
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Post by raven4u on Apr 16, 2017 23:39:06 GMT
It does say male romance options for Scott. See here. Personally, I just wish for more lines, emails from Reyes, and the possibility to smooch your LI whenever you want. Yes please, just like with Dorian. That's all I need while I'm waiting for the next installment. More kissing with Reyes an more I'd go for some more of that any day of the week
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Post by raven4u on Apr 16, 2017 23:39:34 GMT
It does say male romance options for Scott. See here. Personally, I just wish for more lines, emails from Reyes, and the possibility to smooch your LI whenever you want. Yes please, just like with Dorian. That's all I need while I'm waiting for the next installment. More kissing with Reyes an more I'd go for some more of that any day of the week
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Apr 17, 2017 5:57:16 GMT
I think they’re being intentionally vague to avoid more backlash if they can’t deliver within the time frame they’ve offered so far. I wouldn’t be surprised if BroRyder’s VA was already on an NDA on the subject because they don’t want any more negative press if he were to say the wrong thing again. Understandable, but it’s not going to help anything – there are undoubtedly people building up just what ‘improvements to male romances’ means. It’s probably going to amount to some more e-mails, maybe a more explicit romance scene for Gil’s romance, a romance sequence for Reyes of some kind, and other little touch ups.
There’s evidence that Jaal was going to be bi right up until the last minute – in the game files, there’s a BroRyder voice file saying ‘I love you Jaal,’ and BroRyder’s VA indicated on Twitter a while back that he’d recorded lines for a Jaal romance. From what I understand, the dialogue in Jaal’s romance is mostly gender neutral, and #MakeJaalBi has gained a lot of traction. It seems like it’d be very doable with the resources they have, without bringing anyone back into the studio. I’m trying not to get my hopes up, but based on what I’ve seen, it does not appear to be impossible to do. Whether or not it’s done is another story.
That’s where I’m at least watching – Mass Effect as a franchise is turning ten, and there is STILL no M/M alien romance? This is ridiculous, especially considering that Liara was available for FemShep in ME1.
Ideally, I’d love to see them rebuild Gil’s entire “arc” to remove or at least severely downplay the involvement of Jill. Give him more content period, but especially remove the aspect of her pressuring him, apparently Andromeda’s only human gay guy, into having a kid. Like, I’d be okay with him coming up with the idea on his own, but not with Jill being the one to suggest it, and especially not as is – feels WAAAAAY too much like some self-proclaimed ‘fag hag’ telling her gay BFF that if she’s still single at 35 or whatever that they should totally have a kid, and Gil basically being stubborn and digging his heels in because someone rightly told him this was a bad idea. But build it into a real character arc – they try as it is to imply some kind of ‘maturity’ thing with him as a result of being with Ryder, but that’s not actually shown. If they want to treat Gil as ‘becoming a better man’ because he’s with Ryder, there needs to be some real effort put into it.
A few new flirt options out there with male characters, let there be a few fling options as well wouldn’t go amiss (and give some for F/F players, too – Avela Kjar should totally be bi), and some additional conversations with Reyes post-Kadara’s storyline would also be a solid improvement.
But I expect that the DLC will really be where the fixes come – I fully anticipate some DLC to focus around the Exiles on Kadara, with Reyes playing a part, given that no matter what happens in High Noon, he survives. So I fully expect him to be a temporary squadmate for some piece of DLC. The problem with this is if it’ll be a case of ‘too little, too late,’ for people who don’t really want to give them more money, pay more for content that they were shorted on in the main game.
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Post by Petroshenko on Apr 17, 2017 13:33:01 GMT
Romance with Avitus? I get his character's appeal but get a grip guys, this would be dead spouse trope romance to the max. He literally learns about Macen's death DURING THE GAME. He could be romance option for Andromeda 2 or 3, but not now
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Post by N7 Fury on Apr 18, 2017 19:25:31 GMT
If the "improvements" are just little animation fixes and a few new emails I'm going to nek.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 19:57:57 GMT
Before I started playing I wanted them to include Jaal as a romance option, but after playing I have zero interest in romancing Jaal. I don't have any idea which NPC to add as a romance for a male Ryder. But I would like more content for Gil (and possibly Reyes). I want something like in DAI, when I can go to him for a kiss whenever I please. Gil definitely needs more kissing and hugging. And I want a kiss at the end of the game without the damned baby! After romancing Jaal, I would pick Kallo, Akksul, Observer Droid #361, that Russian guy on Nexus, literally, anyone but Jaal....
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Post by London on Apr 18, 2017 22:28:11 GMT
They should have an entire actual romance arch for Scott/Gil and move the Jill crap to post-game scenes, where it might make at least a little more sense. I'm sure Jill is here to stay but at least this would delay her appearance to a somewhat more logical time.
I still wouldn't go for Gil as he's not my cup of tea, but more Reyes content would be what I actually want.
Not into Aliens. Would bang lots of chicks first. However, making Jaal bi is still the easiest solution to hit up many complaints at once. (Squadmate, Alien).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 13:47:59 GMT
I just realized that what would have made me happy atm, if it could have been done as easily as in the older games, is just privately switching Gil's avatar in my own personal game to a male Quarian one from ME3. They looked great there. I know it is impossible by far too many reasons, and I am not trying to impose my preferences on anyone, just sharing the wishful thinking. Apart from Jill, I have liked him in my first PT, but I would prefer this personality merged with a M!Quarian who does not have to re-tell me the tale about the enviro-suits troubles. I miss the times when games were so simple, doing something like that was a mere matter of a few hours of digging through the files.
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