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Post by jediguardian on Apr 5, 2017 5:46:23 GMT
I expect some change/additional scene from our current Romance option especially that Queen/Baroness thing Maybe promote one of NPC to romance option (Alien to please many fan out there (not me). I think some of them are attractive. I want Liam but its beyond possibility I think. Discuss
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Post by wittand25 on Apr 5, 2017 6:35:06 GMT
Most likely they will improve the dance for Reyes and the sex scene for Gill and other minor things.
And when the first story-DLC comes there probably will be a DLC-bound NPC (similar to Mark of the Assasin´s Tallis)who acts as a companion during the DLC and can be romanced only to depart after the DLC and return for the final scene (if they return at all).
Changes to existing NPCs or adding new squad-members to the whole game are pretty unlikely, even I personally would prefer that.
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Post by Moonshadow on Apr 5, 2017 7:00:46 GMT
I, too, think that improving animations could be one part of the workover they promised. I also hope for some additional emails, which in Reyes case could add a nice balance for all the time you spend without a word between Kadara and the end game . And I'd love to get even more voiced cutscenes and such, but I'm not sure how realistic such hopes are.
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Post by N7 Fury on Apr 5, 2017 7:24:34 GMT
Honestly I'm praying that they restore Scott/Jaal. m/m romance options are so shit right now. Choose between the annoying pirate and a guy who is constantly talking about how babies need to be made thx bioware
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Post by Moonshadow on Apr 5, 2017 7:43:28 GMT
I actually really liked the annoying pirate, but I get your point! Gil's romance does seem rather odd, compared to the others. I'm not sure how good the chances are that Jaal was ever intended to be Bi (I didn't follow that romance and character discussion too closely) but I know it would make a lot of people very happy if he was a Scott romance option, too! My fingers are crossed!
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Post by jediguardian on Apr 5, 2017 8:11:29 GMT
I actually really liked the annoying pirate, but I get your point! Gil's romance does seem rather odd, compared to the others. I'm not sure how good the chances are that Jaal was ever intended to be Bi (I didn't follow that romance and character discussion too closely) but I know it would make a lot of people very happy if he was a Scott romance option, too! My fingers are crossed! Reyes is intersting guy in my opinion too. I hope they will do right for both Scott & Sara this time. Ryder should have chance to invite him to Tempest at least for Movie Night.
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Post by delianne on Apr 5, 2017 8:52:50 GMT
I, too, think that improving animations could be one part of the workover they promised. I also hope for some additional emails, which in Reyes case could add a nice balance for all the time you spend without a word between Kadara and the end game . And I'd love to get even more voiced cutscenes and such, but I'm not sure how realistic such hopes are. This. Plus, something I've noticed no one is bothered by. At the end, when we talk to him on the grounded Hyperion, his dialogue is nice and all, but his animation is pissing me off so much. He is playing with his omni-tool the whole time and doesn't really look at Ryder. What is so freaking important, that you can't stop what are you doing for 20 seconds? We haven't seen or talked to each other in 60 in-game hours, that's ages... Am I overreacting? When it comes to Gil, I have no idea what they should do to make me want to romance him. I like him, but this whole Jill and child thing put me off so bad. I have nothing against children (though it's surely a game or two too soon), it's Jill what I don't like in this equation. How is she his best friend, if she's guilt tripping him into having a baby. What the heck is wrong with her? I am cautious and highly doubt we get more options. It would be awesome, but don't think it's gonna happened.
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Post by Moonshadow on Apr 5, 2017 10:00:54 GMT
This. Plus, something I've noticed no one is bothered by. At the end, when we talk to him on the grounded Hyperion, his dialogue is nice and all, but his animation is pissing me off so much. He is playing with his omni-tool the whole time and doesn't really look at Ryder. What is so freaking important, that you can't stop what are you doing for 20 seconds? We haven't seen or talked to each other in 60 in-game hours, that's ages... Am I overreacting? Mmh... he always looks up at my Ryder and talks to her directly during their talk at that party. Maybe your animation is bugged? And I have to admit I kinda liked that he looked busy, unlike every other companion just standing around and waiting for me to hop by. I mean the Collective doesn't run itself, right? I also very much like his laugh when you playfully reject his storage room offer. The VA really did a great job with Reyes! It would be super neat if that scene could be turned into an actual cinematic though, just like your companions!
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Post by delianne on Apr 5, 2017 11:22:00 GMT
This. Plus, something I've noticed no one is bothered by. At the end, when we talk to him on the grounded Hyperion, his dialogue is nice and all, but his animation is pissing me off so much. He is playing with his omni-tool the whole time and doesn't really look at Ryder. What is so freaking important, that you can't stop what are you doing for 20 seconds? We haven't seen or talked to each other in 60 in-game hours, that's ages... Am I overreacting? Mmh... he always looks up at my Ryder and talks to her directly during their talk at that party. Maybe your animation is bugged? And I have to admit I kinda liked that he looked busy, unlike every other companion just standing around and waiting for me to hop by. I mean the Collective doesn't run itself, right? I also very much like his laugh when you playfully reject his storage room offer. The VA really did a great job with Reyes! It would be super neat if that scene could be turned into an actual cinematic though, just like your companions! I've reloaded my save to look once again at the animation. And you are right he does look up, I also know now why I thought he doesn't. He is staring at my male Ryder's chest, leftover from female romance. Another thing to fix. Oh, and I love VA too. I wasn't convinced at first - Zevran flashbacks, but he won me over. Hard to resist for sure.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 5, 2017 13:06:50 GMT
Don't know, if it was just "Improvements to male romance" I'd say more stuff for Gil/Reyes to do but the word options has me curious. Even a little hopeful.
I'm of mixed opinion about the possibility of Jaal being made bi. On one hand he's really handsome but on the other hand, in the final game he WAS written to be straight as a board. There's no denying this.
I'd rather have someone else, someone new to romance. Let me talk about some ideas:
KALLO JATH...*ahem* he'd be a very nice option. He's so cute and bubbly and kind, not at all what people expect from a Salarian. And yet aside from talking about the ship/engineering team, arguing with Gil, and gossiping about the others, he (so far for me) keeps to himself.
Tiran would also be a nice option, or Evfra, or Jarun Tann (I dare you to make a gay Tannmance) or Even Avitus Rix.
Although with Avitus that would have to take some thoughtful and very careful writing so as not to make it seem like he gets over Macen's death in 1 second before dating you.
Perhaps have it so your "romance" is just bonding with him over drinks, letting him vent his frustrations about the job at Vortex (or consoling him about Macen in Khadara) and letting him know you care about him by the end as your payoff until the next game. It would also give Scott more lines to talk about his job as new pathfinder and his Dad. Plus There are many interesting subjects you two could discuss like Saren stories, Opinions about first contact between Turians and Humans.
For me it's not about sex and getting to see nude vidya men, it's about the intimacy of the relationship, It's about the dynamic between them, It's about the writing.
You can see Jacob, and Kaiden (and Steve, And a bit of Gil I hear?) take off their clothes before banging occurs but do ya care? No! Well..I don't.
Because its all about the Garrus romance (and Thane isn't half bad either depending on how to play Femshep) which is way better despite the lack of nudity because there's more care and emotion put into it.
And so your payoff during ME2 is a simple head bump but it comes off as way more genuine than "I want you...I want all the time I can get"
"But the Priiiiize"
I don't need the nudity and the sex, trust me I can get my nudity and sex scenes involving aliens elsewhere.
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Post by witchcocktor on Apr 5, 2017 13:12:32 GMT
Animation fixes on Reyes' dance screen with Scott. Maybe some changes to Vetra calling you a baroness, MAYBE. Slightly more explicit sex scene with Gil. A kiss with Gil during the final dialogue for a Scott that didn't agree to have a baby. Fix on being able to romance both Gil and Reyes and them not even being aware of each others existence. Possibly few voice lines about the squad acknowledging your relationship with Gil.
Those are the things most likely to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:29:10 GMT
Animation fixes on Reyes' dance screen with Scott. Maybe some changes to Vetra calling you a baroness, MAYBE. Slightly more explicit sex scene with Gil. A kiss with Gil during the final dialogue for a Scott that didn't agree to have a baby. Fix on being able to romance both Gil and Reyes and them not even being aware of each others existence. Possibly few voice lines about the squad acknowledging your relationship with Gil. Those are the things most likely to happen. This is exactly what I expect as well. And maybe some additional emails from both of them. Easy to add content that beefs up what's already there.
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Post by rafflesz on Apr 5, 2017 18:49:48 GMT
Animation fixes on Reyes' dance screen with Scott. Maybe some changes to Vetra calling you a baroness, MAYBE. Slightly more explicit sex scene with Gil. A kiss with Gil during the final dialogue for a Scott that didn't agree to have a baby. Fix on being able to romance both Gil and Reyes and them not even being aware of each others existence. Possibly few voice lines about the squad acknowledging your relationship with Gil. Those are the things most likely to happen. If all they do is just fix bugs and glaring oversights on their part I'm gonna remain salty af and not support the game. Because really shafting us with what they did and then basically using us as bug testers is not cool...
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Post by qunaripenis on Apr 5, 2017 19:28:41 GMT
Animation fixes on Reyes' dance screen with Scott. Maybe some changes to Vetra calling you a baroness, MAYBE. Slightly more explicit sex scene with Gil. A kiss with Gil during the final dialogue for a Scott that didn't agree to have a baby. Fix on being able to romance both Gil and Reyes and them not even being aware of each others existence. Possibly few voice lines about the squad acknowledging your relationship with Gil. Those are the things most likely to happen. I really hope they fix Gil's actually written character because him and the whole Jill situation disgusted me to the point I couldn't even look at Gil, because even unromanced, his character arc felt rushed and cruel, like any future of possibilities of him finding what he actually wants in Andromeda was cut short with something that felt like an ultimatum from someone who knew he was mentally unprepepared for anything. In short, his arc is just gross.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 5, 2017 20:11:11 GMT
Oh screw Gil anyway, no amount of fixing will change him from being a bitch.
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Post by crimsonfenryr on Apr 6, 2017 1:19:54 GMT
I'm hoping for a relationship with Avitus Rix. Nothing serious, the guy just lost his bae, gezz. Hoping for a close friendship like he could be an extended crew member.
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Post by raikas on Apr 6, 2017 1:47:25 GMT
I strongly doubt they're actually adding major content like new characters or even just romance content for someone like Jaal.
I'd assume they'll just add in some extra dialogue to that conversation with Gil and Jill (and in the baby conversation later), and maybe record an extra greeting for Reyes that would pop up if he's romanced and you talk to him after the existing content has been exhausted. I know some people are hoping they cut out Vetra's "queen of Kadara" line, but I thought that was hilarious, so I hope it sticks around.
I really don't think it makes sense to expect anything beyond that.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 6, 2017 2:33:53 GMT
I really don't think it makes sense to expect anything beyond that. I can't remember if it was in 2012 or 2013...but after all the DLC had been announced and it had been made abundantly clear that was all there was, one of the twitter accounts for either the game or the studio tweeted to expect some news concerning ME3 very soon. Suddenly threads everywhere popped up with rampant speculation...secret DLC? is this the long rumored "date" dlc for love interests, are they going to import the MP classes into single player? could it be an expansion that will reverse the entire ending of Mass Effect and confirm once and for all that indoctrination theory is correct? It was an announcement that ME3 was coming to the Wii-U.
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Post by tarotmage on Apr 6, 2017 2:53:59 GMT
Not sure if it was already mentioned but the voice actor for Reyes is Nicholas Boulton, who voiced male Hawke in Dragon Age II. Feel free to continue swooning.
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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 6, 2017 3:07:14 GMT
hahahah this is rich. There are two human male romances for scott yet straight scott only gets cora as a human option. And people are saying they "expect"??? Can we be more petty?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 3:27:35 GMT
Tom mentioned it in a stream I was watching earlier. He said he's also excited to see what they do and he honestly has no idea either, so unless he is already under NDA, he's not been informed of anything involving himself recording more stuff yet.
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Post by qunaripenis on Apr 6, 2017 4:18:35 GMT
hahahah this is rich. There are two human male romances for scott yet straight scott only gets cora as a human option. And people are saying they "expect"??? Can we be more petty? You have three fully fleshed out attention to detail female squadmates you can romance and two non-crew/squadies you can romance the hell out of. Gay Scott got a crewmate and a fling, both of which not only have less content than the main romances, but were added last minute. Reyes was already in game but his romance scene animations and after romance dialogue is clearly heavily and still coded toward Sara. Gil's content, character, appearance, story arc, and all around omnipotent presence felt poor, as if they realized they forgot about the male love interests and decided, "Well, despite teasing that everyone can nail the straight angara, we actually cut his male content. Wing it like Cortez like last time? What gay issue hasn't been used this go around so we can make it central to their romance?" I mean, for fuck sake, Gil's romance isn't even about Gil, it's about his garbage friend who guilts him into getting her pregnant. You spit on the cake they gave you and wonder why we're complaining, because they gave us your shitty crumby spit and expected us to be grateful for it.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 6, 2017 4:39:29 GMT
hahahah this is rich. There are two human male romances for scott yet straight scott only gets cora as a human option. And people are saying they "expect"??? Can we be more petty? Two human male romances for Scott is one human male too many.
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Post by Dirk on Apr 6, 2017 5:14:11 GMT
I'm hoping for a relationship with Avitus Rix. Nothing serious, the guy just lost his bae, gezz. Hoping for a close friendship like he could be an extended crew member. I would love to have him as a temporary squad mate in a DLC. I don't mind him being a gay LI either.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 6, 2017 5:35:30 GMT
Yes definitely would love a romance with Avitus.
But it would have to be the slowest of slow burn romances.
You should bond with him over drinks (either on Khadara or on the Nexus depending on your choice of what to do with him), talk with him a lot throughout the game, get him to come out of his shell
This could also provide a little character development into Scott as well. You both lost loved ones, you both struggle with your new role as pathfinde and there's also the Turian/Human dynamic.
With Scott's upbringing around Alec (who must have had opinions about the Turians around the First Contact War) and Avitus being trained by Saren, I'm sure you could come up with lots of interesting convos.
There's a lot of stuff you can explore character wise instead of "sorry about macen, wanna bang?"
And the payoff will be at the end where you tell him there's a human pathfinder interested in him...should he be ready to move on.
Which could be setup for a Turian Gay Romance next game or depending on your choice of putting him as Turian Pathfinder, he doesn't move on and he's turned to the bottle.
A romance path with Avitus is doable here. You just have to approach it carefully.
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