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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 13:37:44 GMT
what do you think?
Most planets in their cluster are underdeveloped shitholes. It wilderness most places you visit.
Everyone back home is more advanced. Batarian Hegemony enslaves Angara easy. The latter would want it over being bioengineered into Kett thralls.
Turian Hierarchy's 26th Armiger Legion > Angara
N7 > Angara
Aralakh Company > Angara
Salarian STG > Angara
Asari Commando > Angara
Leviathan > Jaardan
The Reaps > Remnant
Prothean Empire > Kett Empire
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 13:41:30 GMT
and last but not least
The Rachni would push Angara's ish in. Angara women would be begging Krogan males behind a dumpster for protection
Rachni beat Kett up too.
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Post by neoiceman on Apr 6, 2017 13:41:38 GMT
what do you think? Most planets in their cluster are underdeveloped shitholes. It wilderness most places you visit. Everyone back home is more advanced. Batarian Hegemony enslaves Angara easy. The latter would want it over being bioengineered into Kett thralls. Turian Hierarchy's 26th Armiger Legion > Angara N7 > Angara Aralakh Company > Angara Salarian STG > Angara Asari Commando > Angara Leviathan > Jaardan The Reaps > Remnant Prothean Empire > Kett Empire We dont know enough to say The MilkyWay Races supperior to the Andromeda Races. In Biolocical and DNA works the Kett > all MilkyWay Races.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 6, 2017 13:41:58 GMT
Did the Angara and Kett even exist 600 years ago when the Initiative left? If not they're doing a pretty good job. Did have a chuckle when the Asari pathfinder and Cora deflected the attack from the Kett warship though.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 6, 2017 13:42:30 GMT
Did you miss the part where their advanced society was destroyed by the Scourge, and then the kett came and stomped out what was left? No, they didn't have Reaper tech handed to them, so they may seem slightly less advanced, at a glance. The game repeatedly comments on how much more advanced certain aspects of angara tech is, though, than MW tech. They are definitely not "primitives", even in their current state.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 13:43:49 GMT
When Angara update their history books.
Humans will be their Krogans and Kett will be their Rachni.
Except they can't claim credit for uplifting anyone.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 6, 2017 13:44:01 GMT
Well the angara are building and are a divided people. The krogan could easily be considered primitives when they were in nuclear war destroying their own planet fighting among themselves before the salarians intervened. That's what war and being divided does to you. The angara could've been a prosperous race before the scourge and such for all we know.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 13:46:00 GMT
Well the angara are building and are a divided people. The krogan could easily be considered primitives when they were in nuclear war destroying their own planet fighting among themselves before the salarians intervened. That's what war and being divided does to you. The angara could've been a prosperous race before the scourge and such for all we know. The Krogan would destroy Angara easy doe. Angara can't even handle their galactic threat of golems. Krogan saved their entire galaxy.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 13:47:11 GMT
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Post by peligrad on Apr 6, 2017 13:52:45 GMT
what do you think? Most planets in their cluster are underdeveloped shitholes. It wilderness most places you visit. Everyone back home is more advanced. Batarian Hegemony enslaves Angara easy. The latter would want it over being bioengineered into Kett thralls. Turian Hierarchy's 26th Armiger Legion > Angara N7 > Angara Aralakh Company > Angara Salarian STG > Angara Asari Commando > Angara Leviathan > Jaardan The Reaps > Remnant Prothean Empire > Kett Empire We dont know enough to say The MilkyWay Races supperior to the Andromeda Races. In Biolocical and DNA works the Kett > all MilkyWay Races. First off, potential spoilers!! In theory but not in practice. The Kett claim to be the bio-engineered masterpiece of a thousand species, and yet their troops are no stronger than Angarans or MW Scavengers. Their pets are no stronger than wild Adhi... The Kett are looking at each of the Milky Way species for positive traits to harness... but if they really were as super advanced as they claim, there probably would be very little to harness from the MW species. If they were really as advanced as they say they are, then the Krogans wouldn't be leagues ahead of them in combat prowess and they wouldn't be drooling all over themselves to get Krogan specimens to exult. Heck even the Turians have significant advantages in terms of physique and natural armaments over the Kett. The Kett seem to have zero understanding of biotics... so even the Asari and Humans are a heck of a lot formidable than the Kett and the Salarians seem considerably more quick-witted than the Kett. So out of every single species in an Aromeda minus the Angara which are seemingly useless at this point, the Kett are inferior biologically despite supposedly being the masters of biological engineering. Despite their claims, the Kett seem either very new at this bio-conversion technology, or very bad at it. I know if I had the ability to bio-engineer my troops and a thousand species worth of DNA to construct it from, I'd be building something more formidable than some runt dogs with second rate cloaking abilities and some humanoid meat sacks that are identical in almost every way to the rest of the non-engineered humanoid meat-sacks running around.
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Post by jackdaniel on Apr 6, 2017 13:57:33 GMT
When Angara update their history books. Humans will be their Krogans and Kett will be their Rachni. Except they can't claim credit for uplifting anyone. So unless they also get their version of a turian race, they won't be around to write that history book.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 6, 2017 13:57:55 GMT
Well the angara are building and are a divided people. The krogan could easily be considered primitives when they were in nuclear war destroying their own planet fighting among themselves before the salarians intervened. That's what war and being divided does to you. The angara could've been a prosperous race before the scourge and such for all we know. The Krogan would destroy Angara easy doe. Angara can't even handle their galactic threat of golems. Krogan saved their entire galaxy. Being a primitive doesn't have to do with fighting though. Javik insulted milkyway technology all the time in ME3, you can be a primitive just by your own tech and where you are in advanced life. As I said before, the krogan can be considered primitive just by their state of nuclear war among themselves. They had no space travel to them at all untill the salarians helped them out as well as more modern medical knowledge and the like. People considered barbarians As primitives just by their lack of modern integration at the time. They were still a strong fighting foe but fighting isn't what makes you a primitive. If you're lesser in any way, you can be viewed as a primitive to another. im not disagreeing on the angara being primitive to the MW species, but for all we know they could've been far greater before the scourge, and in game that's what the angara are trying to do, you can see them trying to capture relics from their past, you even find an advanced AI on the snow world that was buried for I don't remember how many years but it was a lost relic.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 6, 2017 14:01:08 GMT
Did you miss the part where their advanced society was destroyed by the Scourge, and then the kett came and stomped out what was left? No, they didn't have Reaper tech handed to them, so they may seem slightly less advanced, at a glance. They did have other kind of tech handed to them. Effective at what it does. Their shipbuilding skills are the lowest in the cluster. No arguing here. All three active sides are pretty much close in their technological level, aside from being worse/better in some small parts. Not the most imaginative move on Bioware's side, if you ask me.
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 6, 2017 14:05:11 GMT
Katt are primitive compared to the MW races for sure. But that is only because MW technology is largely shaped by the Reapers. As advance as their biology and genetics are, they are still far interior to the Asari and Protheans biologically despite being the inheritor of a thousand species. Poor them, their primitive missiles can't even get pass an Asari They haven't even evolve biotics yet.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 6, 2017 14:12:10 GMT
Milky Way would crush what we know of the Andromeda races and that is just the MW based off of late 22nd century tech. Current MW is 600 years more advanced than AI. So if a mass relay highway were to be constructed between the two galaxies The Kett Empire would be easy pickings for a 29th century Milky Way.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 6, 2017 14:12:10 GMT
We dont know enough to say The MilkyWay Races supperior to the Andromeda Races. In Biolocical and DNA works the Kett > all MilkyWay Races. First off, potential spoilers!! In theory but not in practice. The Kett claim to be the bio-engineered masterpiece of a thousand species, and yet their troops are no stronger than Angarans or MW Scavengers. Their pets are no stronger than wild Adhi... The Kett are looking at each of the Milky Way species for positive traits to harness... but if they really were as super advanced as they claim, there probably would be very little to harness from the MW species. If they were really as advanced as they say they are, then the Krogans wouldn't be leagues ahead of them in combat prowess and they wouldn't be drooling all over themselves to get Krogan specimens to exult. Despite their claims, the Kett seem either very new at this bio-conversion technology, or very bad at it. I know if I had the ability to bio-engineer my troops and a thousand species worth of DNA to construct it from, I'd be building something more formidable than some runt dogs with second rate cloaking abilities and some humanoid meat sacks that are identical in almost every way to the rest of the non-engineered humanoid meat-sacks running around. In fairness, the average kett soldier doesn't actually wear much armor as I recall. So, Kett carapace as tough as MW armor? Maybe the problem is that they are overly reliant on genetic engineering over technological improvement.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 6, 2017 14:21:14 GMT
Because there are no mass relays in Andromeda, that galaxy is much more fragmentated than the Milky Way. It takes longer to travel. Why would an empire on one side of the galaxy bother with visiting one on the other side? There could be an über powerful empire there, that just doesn't waste resources by revisiting a piece of galaxy they don't find interesting.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 6, 2017 15:24:15 GMT
The Angara sew and write poetry. Pretty dull race.
They do seem pretty primitive. It's odd that all of their civilization seems to have been wiped out with the Scourge. You'd think something would have survived
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Post by shechinah on Apr 6, 2017 15:27:29 GMT
They did have other kind of tech handed to them. As far as I can remember, the angara weren't able to use Remnant technology like the Milky Way races were able to use the technology left for them by the Reapers. Basically, it wasn't left with the same user-friendliness that the Reapers left theirs with. In the case of the Citadel, the Reapers even left butlers in the form of the Keepers to take care of everything and keep it running. The Remnant are hostile to just about anybody that comes near their sites. I don't recall there being any sort of security measures mentioned at the caches left by the Reapers. The angara were dealt an entirely different hand. Their civilisation also went through two events that basically knocked their progress back and continued to hamper its regrowth: the Scourge and the Kett respectively. In the exaltation facility, Jaal mentions that the kidnapped angara are doctors, scientists, scholars and so on as I recall. The kett seemed to specifically seek that sort of people for exaltation. I believe the kett were also intentionally trying to keep the angara from developing. Not to mention how the Remnant technology started malfunctioning and was deterioating the living conditions of their planet.
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Post by kino on Apr 6, 2017 15:28:24 GMT
I'm pretty sure the Scourge put a pretty big damper on their technical evolution. Considering the size of the catastrophe that they were able to get back to space travel/planet hopping so quickly, without the assistance of Reaper based tech, would kind of argue about "primitive".
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Post by Sifr on Apr 6, 2017 15:38:52 GMT
I speculated over on the Jaal thread, that perhaps the reason the Angara were designed with genetic memory and access to Remnant technology, was so the Jaardan could use them as camouflage and eventually "resurrect" their species.
We learn at the end of the game that the Jaardan were in conflict with whomever deployed the Scourge, which ended with them either being wiped out or fleeing. What if instead, they never left but made their enemy think they had?
The Angara might actually be the Jaardan, making them both creator and creation. They're a fallen Empire who doesn't remember that they fell, thus making them quite literally the "Remnant" of their civilisation?
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Post by guanxi on Apr 6, 2017 15:45:30 GMT
My theory is that the Angara are the Jardaan. They created the remnant/vaults and are much older and more advanced than their recent history suggests. Certainly older than our mere 10k years.
The Jardaan facing extinction created the remnant vaults to re-create their civilization after the trouble had passed but the remnant tech failed / hamstrung their redevelopment and set them back thousands of years. They can't use / don't understand their own technology so have had to start again from scratch within our timeline.
If we work out the Jardaan tech before they do we will leap frog them with their own technology.
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Post by nthjester on Apr 6, 2017 15:49:15 GMT
Did you miss the part where their advanced society was destroyed by the Scourge, and then the kett came and stomped out what was left? No, they didn't have Reaper tech handed to them, so they may seem slightly less advanced, at a glance. The game repeatedly comments on how much more advanced certain aspects of angara tech is, though, than MW tech. They are definitely not "primitives", even in their current state. 68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2n72dxsLu1qbolbn.gif
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 6, 2017 16:51:45 GMT
When Angara update their history books. Humans will be their Krogans and Kett will be their Rachni. Except they can't claim credit for uplifting anyone. So unless they also get their version of a turian race, they won't be around to write that history book. 1st thought that came to mind when I saw Jaal: Who the hell is this poor man's Garrus.
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Post by joglee on Apr 6, 2017 17:05:33 GMT
Did the Angara and Kett even exist 600 years ago when the Initiative left? If not they're doing a pretty good job. Did have a chuckle when the Asari pathfinder and Cora deflected the attack from the Kett warship though. they did not.
The jaardan didn't show up until around 100 years after the initiative left the milky way.
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