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Post by Malaclypse on Apr 6, 2017 16:25:29 GMT
I don't know what to say about all this except that I don't know what to say.
On another subject, I just changed my forum 'theme' to "Dark" and it looks much, much better. It is probably the most significant, positive change to the greater Mass Effect experience that I will undergo today. In the profound words of my country's Twitter obsessed, well-read, intellectual, popularly elected, small-fingered President, "So sad."
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Post by stardog89 on Apr 6, 2017 16:25:53 GMT
Mattock gets berfed?
Dumb.
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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 6, 2017 16:25:53 GMT
A 1.11 GB patch. Well, something in there has got to be good. Right? ....right?! Patch notes: .98 GB directed towards enhancement of Turian looks and overall swagger. They are now OP in looks and update 1.06 will address the other characters. Wat? They already were!Vetra  |
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 6, 2017 16:26:25 GMT
To defend BioWare on this, it is very early in the game so to speak. They have to tailor changes to the whole player base and not just the elite on here who are soling gold after 4 days. It can be better to make slower corrections over time than to get into the whole nerf buff nerf buff thing that happened in a few case in me3mp There's nothing good enough to need a nerf except maybe melee. Pretty much everything needs a buff. And yet people are walking through gold or so i hear. (I do agree that some buffs are needed.) I also think they strategically will keep difficulty high to promote people paying dollars, whether we like that or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 16:27:40 GMT
The Scorpion and Indra buffs look interesting. I'll have to test them and see if they are powerful enough for Gold now.
Kinda odd, considering all the weapons in the game that probably needed buffs, these two already had decent damage output ..
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 6, 2017 16:28:01 GMT
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Post by stysiaq on Apr 6, 2017 16:29:11 GMT
Good old BioWare balance team. For those of you not around during ME3, buffing/nerfing things by small increments and often hitting weapons that left the community going "Wtf are you doing?" is pretty much standard operation for balancing in Mass Effect. Just wait until they Krysae a weapon. You mean "introduce a weapon that completely breaks the game" just to butcher it completely with another patch to the point of practically removing it from the game? Good old BioWare balance Modus Operandi. From what you guys are saying I think they'll Krysae a Vanquisher (though I doubt Vanquisher is on the same level as release Krysae). |
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 6, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
the changes are a step into the right direction.
I am missing changes to powers + combos though (roughly a 10000% buff)
and changes to shotguns + fixing Smart Choke
well - they obviously have decided not to do the obvious and leave the Ushior unchanged.
probably this is intended - so getting the Ushior in the store will now just become known as "getting the shit end of the stick"
(haha I looked that up - German would be: "Die Arschkarte ziehen")
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Post by Wolfwhistler on Apr 6, 2017 16:30:17 GMT
There's nothing good enough to need a nerf except maybe melee. Pretty much everything needs a buff. And yet people are walking through gold or so i hear. (I do agree that some buffs are needed.) I also think they strategically will keep difficulty high to promote people paying dollars, whether we like that or not. You could give people toothpicks and they'll figure out how to walk through gold. That doesn't make it fun though. |
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 6, 2017 16:31:30 GMT
So shotguns and powers are still completely worthless. Awesome. Good work Biovar
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Post by Ergunk on Apr 6, 2017 16:31:33 GMT
I can't even launch the game now, nothing is happening.
Anyone else having same issues? I had no trouble before the patch.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 6, 2017 16:32:00 GMT
There's nothing good enough to need a nerf except maybe melee. Pretty much everything needs a buff. And yet people are walking through gold or so i hear. (I do agree that some buffs are needed.) I also think they strategically will keep difficulty high to promote people paying dollars, whether we like that or not. The thing is the guns that are "good" in AMP are not even good by ME3 standards. They are "good" because they actually move the health bar of the enemy when you shoot them. Ok yeah the vanquisher is a hard hitting sniper its good. Ok now on to every other gun in the game..... The equalizer looks amazing when you use it, but if you had the equivalent in ME3MP you would shelf it and never touch it ever again. The only reason people walk through gold is using the few tactics the game has that works. The melee is stupid...especially with the guns and powers how they are right now. I'm about to go back to Ark. I'm at least going to try the patch...maybe a few damage points will put some guns in over drive idk...we will see. I doubt it. After this "balance" update I think they don't really care tbh. They are throwing darts at a board while the player base drops off to other games. Yeah that buffed some things, but idk....... |
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 6, 2017 16:32:53 GMT
Good old BioWare balance team. For those of you not around during ME3, buffing/nerfing things by small increments and often hitting weapons that left the community going "Wtf are you doing?" is pretty much standard operation for balancing in Mass Effect. Just wait until they Krysae a weapon. You mean "introduce a weapon that completely breaks the game" just to butcher it completely with another patch to the point of practically removing it from the game? Good old BioWare balance Modus Operandi. From what you guys are saying I think they'll Krysae a Vanquisher (though I doubt Vanquisher is on the same level as release Krysae). Short of missile glitching nothing was on the level of release krysae |
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 6, 2017 16:33:52 GMT
Fernando Melo DiscoBabaloo 17m17 minutes ago Looking into the 'data mismatch' error when connecting on PC. Holding off PS4 going online until that's resolved. XB1 patch showing up.
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 6, 2017 16:36:30 GMT
So the melee thing basically just killed my Krogan Gladiator...
And I guess they're fine with Fiends sync killing from across the map and teleporting at will.
And weren't most assault rifles considered bad, not just semi-autos? I've heard nothing but complaints about Avenger X and other ARs due to their crappy accuracy and damage.
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Post by stysiaq on Apr 6, 2017 16:37:52 GMT
So the melee thing basically just killed my Krogan Gladiator... And I guess they're fine with Fiends sync killing from across the map and teleporting at will. Killing whole kits, or at least moving them up or down a couple of tiers is basic ME balance for you! |
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Post by kr0ganh3adbutt on Apr 6, 2017 16:38:16 GMT
BW Employee 1: "Hey, according to this data nobody is using the Mattock...I wonder why?".
BW Employee 2: " I dunno...maybe that weapon is OP as hell and nobody use it because Players like a real challenge"
BW Employee 1: " Lets nerf the Mattock into oblivion for the next patch"
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 6, 2017 16:38:29 GMT
And yet people are walking through gold or so i hear. (I do agree that some buffs are needed.) I also think they strategically will keep difficulty high to promote people paying dollars, whether we like that or not. You could give people toothpicks and they'll figure out how to walk through gold. That doesn't make it fun though. Agreed, will it make it any more fun when you up the damage and then everyone walks through gold? And then the next step is to buff enemies, it is an endless cycle. This game is suffering (as I predicted) from a large player base that has been used to playing max manifest highest level weapons on me3mp for years. going back to the lowest rung is tough. |
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Post by The Joe-Man on Apr 6, 2017 16:39:44 GMT
Wow. That Mattock damage nerf seems like a really odd choice given how much harder you have to work to pull the DPS out of it compared to full auto guns. Hopefully the ROF fix won't have the gun feeling so unresponsive though.
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Post by swizz on Apr 6, 2017 16:41:45 GMT
Is the game any stable now? what about crashes, lags and discos?
fuck the balancing, as long as shit is playable.
stop worring about the goddamn mattock, who cares about mattock. the game needs to be lag and crash free ffs!
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 6, 2017 16:42:13 GMT
BW Employee 1: "Hey, according to this data nobody is using the Mattock...I wonder why?". BW Employee 2: " I dunno...maybe that weapon is OP as hell and nobody use it because Players like a real challenge" BW Employee 1: " Lets nerf the Mattock into oblivion for the next patch" haha. Fitting avatar is fitting. |
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Post by Mobius Y on Apr 6, 2017 16:43:26 GMT
Okay what the fuck am I missing here? It says "see below for detailed notes on balance changes", yet I scroll down and find nothing but vague bullshit for single player and whatnot. Dafuq??? |
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Post by SilentFear on Apr 6, 2017 16:43:28 GMT
There's nothing good enough to need a nerf except maybe melee. Pretty much everything needs a buff. And yet people are walking through gold or so i hear. (I do agree that some buffs are needed.) I also think they strategically will keep difficulty high to promote people paying dollars, whether we like that or not. They do. And its not hard but it involves a huge amount of cheese. And surprise surprise its mostly few kits whit about 3-4 weapons. And if i remember correct ME3MP was also the same - day or two after release large number of people were doing gold - mind you whit far better weapons. So less cheese there. Right now its mostly biotics rolling whit Vanquisher and the occasional Talon or Equaliser or Vanguards rolling whit shotguns they never fire and just mele everything insight. People will find a way to farm gold even if they have to use sticks - that wont change the fact that 90% of the weapons and kits are just not fun to use on gold. |
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Post by christsuperstar on Apr 6, 2017 16:44:24 GMT
Patch 1.05: Fuck melee centric kits and the Mattock!
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Post by gethadept on Apr 6, 2017 16:45:06 GMT
BW Employee 1: "Hey, according to this data nobody is using the Mattock...I wonder why?". BW Employee 2: " I dunno...maybe that weapon is OP as hell and nobody use it because Players like a real challenge" BW Employee 1: " Lets nerf the Mattock into oblivion for the next patch" Nobody uses Mattock because we are human and pressing trigger button continuously while changing aim using XBox/PS4 controller is near impossible task. ....Only reason people still used Mattock was because it still hits heavier than fully automatic rifle if used against non-moving target`s weak point. Now.. there is absolutely no reason to even try unlock that shittock. |
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