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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 6, 2017 20:34:46 GMT
The other rank 6 perk is rockets, 1 shot every 10 seconds that does 90 damage and can detonate combos. Hilarious. |
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Post by fossor on Apr 6, 2017 20:36:39 GMT
Is the pet useless once again? Pretty much, he is dumb and weak. Vanquisher is a best pet. |
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 6, 2017 21:00:13 GMT
The other rank 6 perk is rockets, 1 shot every 10 seconds that does 90 damage and can detonate combos. Hilarious. Seriously, rank 6 of an ability should be good. Rockets should do 1000 damage, not 90. Even 1000 damage with a 5 meter blast radius wouldn't be op (a gold raider has like 2000+ health) but it would be at least decent and pretty cool. 90 damage is just lame as hell. The other rank 6 perk is ''electric beam''. Beam attack has a chance to prime enemies for combos and stun them. + 25% damage to shields and +15% damage to sythetics. Stun duration 1 second. Well too bad 25% of nothing is still nothing and the stun rarely kicks in, when it does 1 second is really short. Considering how it seems to happen not very often it should be 5 seconds. I mean compare the remnant vi to avenger strike or tripmines. They are both great abilties overall and on top of that they get 5 and 2 second stuns on command. This one does it when it occasionally feels like it and only for 1 second. The architects description is ''exchanges personal damage and defense for a deadly robot VI'' well I fail to see the deadly part. I seriously doubt this drone is even deadly on bronze. |
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 6, 2017 21:42:22 GMT
I just got him out an advance pack and i was looking for my asari adept upgrade. It's like every time, I end up getting something i dont really want, but not a bad pull.
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Post by Sailears on Apr 6, 2017 21:44:26 GMT
Would have preferred:
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If they're going for a "building/construction" theme then it would be nice to go overkill on the pets.
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Post by n7vakarian on Apr 6, 2017 21:46:31 GMT
Would hope the next character might be an Ultra Rare Turian.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 6, 2017 22:03:00 GMT
Would have preferred: Remnant VI Barricade Assault Turret If they're going for a "building/construction" theme then it would be nice to go overkill on the pets. I would have preferred tactical cloak, remnant VI, and assault turret. Like my actual build in SP. |
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Post by parthianshot on Apr 6, 2017 22:11:18 GMT
I got him already by a stroke of luck (?) and I love the frosty drone. It's not that it's particularly effective it's just cute.
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Post by niroz on Apr 6, 2017 22:15:51 GMT
Seriously, rank 6 of an ability should be good. Rockets should do 1000 damage, not 90. Even 1000 damage with a 5 meter blast radius wouldn't be op (a gold raider has like 2000+ health) but it would be at least decent and pretty cool. 90 damage is just lame as hell. The other rank 6 perk is ''electric beam''. Beam attack has a chance to prime enemies for combos and stun them. + 25% damage to shields and +15% damage to sythetics. Stun duration 1 second. Well too bad 25% of nothing is still nothing and the stun rarely kicks in, when it does 1 second is really short. Considering how it seems to happen not very often it should be 5 seconds. I mean compare the remnant vi to avenger strike or tripmines. They are both great abilties overall and on top of that they get 5 and 2 second stuns on command. This one does it when it occasionally feels like it and only for 1 second. The architects description is '' exchanges personal damage and defense for a deadly robot VI'' well I fail to see the deadly part. I seriously doubt this drone is even deadly on bronze. The VI is overall awful. Not to mention, looking at the skill trees makes me think that this class was still in concept phase. For example, why does he have an evo that gives +tech radius when none of his skills have AoE out of the box. You could make incinerate AoE, and that's about it...I doubt barricade's electric defense benefits from it. Again, you have to spec for it either way, and it's super weak regardless...it shouldn't even be there. Don't worry though, it increases tech construct area of effect raidus(es????) by 25% as well. So I guess IF you spec for the evo 6 rocket, it will benefit from it too. That way, its 90dmg AoE every 10secs goes from 2.5meters to a little over 3. Evo 6 of Support Systems, you get Tech Sabotage, but the only way to trigger it, is with incinerate...and maybe electric defense barricade (which I wouldn't even count due to reliability). Then you look at the Offensive Tech tree, and there's multiple +power options, anti armor/shield options, and Elemental Tech. Except, you have only one reliable power that benefits from these...incinerate, as electric defense barricade doesn't count, and the VI doesn't benefit from any of this. Seriously...wtf. There's no way this class is finished...not even by beta standards. |
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 6, 2017 22:23:38 GMT
niroz, agreed with everything you said. The class is a mess and really poor. Weak defensive capabilties and really poor offensive capabilities. If you wanna use a barricade build human sentinel is muc much better and it's a common class. VI might somehow be worse than assault turret. A lot of the perks don't make much sense like you said. Overall a cool looking class with a really shit skillset.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 6, 2017 22:26:58 GMT
Seriously, rank 6 of an ability should be good. Rockets should do 1000 damage, not 90. Even 1000 damage with a 5 meter blast radius wouldn't be op (a gold raider has like 2000+ health) but it would be at least decent and pretty cool. 90 damage is just lame as hell. The other rank 6 perk is ''electric beam''. Beam attack has a chance to prime enemies for combos and stun them. + 25% damage to shields and +15% damage to sythetics. Stun duration 1 second. Well too bad 25% of nothing is still nothing and the stun rarely kicks in, when it does 1 second is really short. Considering how it seems to happen not very often it should be 5 seconds. I mean compare the remnant vi to avenger strike or tripmines. They are both great abilties overall and on top of that they get 5 and 2 second stuns on command. This one does it when it occasionally feels like it and only for 1 second. The architects description is ''exchanges personal damage and defense for a deadly robot VI'' well I fail to see the deadly part. I seriously doubt this drone is even deadly on bronze. Do I think he's bad? No. Do I think hes underpowed? Hell yes. It's really no suprise though, everything in this game is underpowered. I've played 3 bronze with him without any upgrades and I always fall atop the lead in scores. When I fully rank him up, I can truly judge him, but at this point he's pretty damn descent. The Remnant melts enemies on bronze btw. |
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Post by book on Apr 6, 2017 22:32:11 GMT
I found it very fun. Like I posted in another thread:
I run in, put down my barricade in front of a group of mobs, they all get primed for tech. I incinerate to detonate tech and prime for fire. I summon my remnant VI and it detonate the fire. The remnant will also draw most of the enemy fire at this point, giving me a chance to reposition and put another baricade down to prime another group. Rinse, repeat. It's a pretty sight that's for sure, and it's something of a change from vanquisher spam.
I used tech consumables as well. I had fun.
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 6, 2017 22:35:22 GMT
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 6, 2017 22:37:31 GMT
I found it very fun. Like I posted in another thread: I run in, put down my barricade in front of a group of mobs, they all get primed for tech. I incinerate to detonate tech and prime for fire. I summon my remnant VI and it detonate the fire. The remnant will also draw most of the enemy fire at this point, giving me a chance to reposition and put another baricade down to prime another group. Rinse, repeat. It's a pretty sight that's for sure, and it's something of a change from vanquisher spam. I used tech consumables as well. I had fun. Well lookng at his skillset it does seem like a combo build would be the best idea you could do for him but combo damage sucks. If combos were good maybe he'd be good. Was this on gold? I guess I should rank him up some more so I can take the detonation evo from incinerate. |
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Post by book on Apr 6, 2017 22:39:47 GMT
I found it very fun. Like I posted in another thread: I run in, put down my barricade in front of a group of mobs, they all get primed for tech. I incinerate to detonate tech and prime for fire. I summon my remnant VI and it detonate the fire. The remnant will also draw most of the enemy fire at this point, giving me a chance to reposition and put another baricade down to prime another group. Rinse, repeat. It's a pretty sight that's for sure, and it's something of a change from vanquisher spam. I used tech consumables as well. I had fun. Well lookng at his skillset it does seem like a combo build would be the best idea you could do for him but combo damage sucks. If combos were good maybe he'd be good. Was this on gold? I guess I should rank him up some more so I can take the detonation evo from incinerate. This was tested on gold vs kett, remnant and outlaws. One game each. Did a lot of damage, and the crowd control was amazing. Everything is either zapped or on fire. If anything is not, you can just melee to snap freeze. Edit: At level X, level 16. So quite a few skillpoints. |
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 6, 2017 22:42:22 GMT
Cool, will try that out and maybe I'll feel differently about him.
Actually, care to share your build? Do you take radius on incinerate then?
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Post by orochifuror on Apr 6, 2017 22:45:49 GMT
Aside from the fact most skills in the game do the damage of half an Avenger clip on a 15 second cool down (aka wet noodle), turrets and drones in ME3 weren't very good either, until the geth turret came out and just flat had more damage. I pray to have an all construct character some day that's gold viable. Stun with Falcon and let constructs chip things down...
I could throw my geth turret and get a kill or two with flamethrower, but now I struggle to watch my turret shoot things and see if the enemy health bar is even going down. It does have some great range though...
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Post by niroz on Apr 6, 2017 22:45:59 GMT
Well lookng at his skillset it does seem like a combo build would be the best idea you could do for him but combo damage sucks. If combos were good maybe he'd be good. Was this on gold? I guess I should rank him up some more so I can take the detonation evo from incinerate. This was tested on gold vs kett, remnant and outlaws. One game each. Did a lot of damage, and the crowd control was amazing. Everything is either zapped or on fire. If anything is not, you can just melee to snap freeze. Didn't think too much about the combo play style with him as I was too disappointed with the VI's up time performance and overall first impressions of the kit's skill tree. Reserving summoning the VI for detonation seems some what out of the box thinking, and thank you for that. |
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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 6, 2017 23:55:19 GMT
The remnant VI seems pretty useless. I'll have to try rockets out but I specced it for max health and the electric stun on rank 6 and it seemed really pointless overall. Died fairly fast to any sort of hard hitting enemy, does basiclly 0 damage. Occasionally was a decent distraction but the damage output was poor and it didn't stun very often, and the stun doesn't last long either. It's also pretty slow moving so if you sprint around it'll lag behind. I struggle to see why I'd pick this guy over the operator or insurgent, they seem way better. T he VI should have some way of occasionally shield boosting you or something if it's not gonna do any damage.... Or the stun perk needs to proc more often and last longer. The other rank 6 perk is rockets, 1 shot every 10 seconds that does 90 damage and can detonate combos. Well that seems pretty pathetic to me unless the rockets have a stun, but 90 damage every 10 seconds is garbage. Should be about every 5 seconds in that case or it should do a lot more damage. Ended up running a barricade spec instead and just camping behind that with 15% damage boost and stun and that worked better but if I'm gonna camp behind a barricade the human sentinel is better with energgy drain and tech armor. Feels like they didn't think this character through very well to me... It is a trash kit...only worth getting to get him out of the way to get better stuff. |
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 7, 2017 0:34:18 GMT
The remnant VI seems pretty useless. I'll have to try rockets out but I specced it for max health and the electric stun on rank 6 and it seemed really pointless overall. Died fairly fast to any sort of hard hitting enemy, does basiclly 0 damage. Occasionally was a decent distraction but the damage output was poor and it didn't stun very often, and the stun doesn't last long either. It's also pretty slow moving so if you sprint around it'll lag behind. I struggle to see why I'd pick this guy over the operator or insurgent, they seem way better. T he VI should have some way of occasionally shield boosting you or something if it's not gonna do any damage.... Or the stun perk needs to proc more often and last longer. The other rank 6 perk is rockets, 1 shot every 10 seconds that does 90 damage and can detonate combos. Well that seems pretty pathetic to me unless the rockets have a stun, but 90 damage every 10 seconds is garbage. Should be about every 5 seconds in that case or it should do a lot more damage. Ended up running a barricade spec instead and just camping behind that with 15% damage boost and stun and that worked better but if I'm gonna camp behind a barricade the human sentinel is better with energgy drain and tech armor. Feels like they didn't think this character through very well to me... It is a trash kit...only worth getting to get him out of the way to get better stuff. I'm trying a more combo centered build now and it feels pretty gimmicky, like I'm doing the combos just to do them not because it's effective ;/ |
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 7, 2017 1:09:17 GMT
Seriously, rank 6 of an ability should be good. Rockets should do 1000 damage, not 90. Even 1000 damage with a 5 meter blast radius wouldn't be op (a gold raider has like 2000+ health) but it would be at least decent and pretty cool. 90 damage is just lame as hell. The other rank 6 perk is ''electric beam''. Beam attack has a chance to prime enemies for combos and stun them. + 25% damage to shields and +15% damage to sythetics. Stun duration 1 second. Well too bad 25% of nothing is still nothing and the stun rarely kicks in, when it does 1 second is really short. Considering how it seems to happen not very often it should be 5 seconds. I mean compare the remnant vi to avenger strike or tripmines. They are both great abilties overall and on top of that they get 5 and 2 second stuns on command. This one does it when it occasionally feels like it and only for 1 second. The architects description is ''exchanges personal damage and defense for a deadly robot VI'' well I fail to see the deadly part. I seriously doubt this drone is even deadly on bronze. Do I think he's bad? No. Do I think hes underpowed? Hell yes. It's really no suprise though, everything in this game is underpowered. I've played 3 bronze with him without any upgrades and I always fall atop the lead in scores. When I fully rank him up, I can truly judge him, but at this point he's pretty damn descent. The Remnant melts enemies on bronze btw. Its slow. He shots an enemy then doesn't do anything for 3 seconds then shoots again...thats not melting but I think it is effective if played right... |
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Post by P51Mus7ang on Apr 7, 2017 1:17:59 GMT
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 7, 2017 1:39:39 GMT
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 7, 2017 1:51:20 GMT
Do I think he's bad? No. Do I think hes underpowed? Hell yes. It's really no suprise though, everything in this game is underpowered. I've played 3 bronze with him without any upgrades and I always fall atop the lead in scores. When I fully rank him up, I can truly judge him, but at this point he's pretty damn descent. The Remnant melts enemies on bronze btw. Its slow. He shots an enemy then doesn't do anything for 3 seconds then shoots again...thats not melting but I think it is effective if played right... No it isn't slow and it does a reasonable amount of dps. Anyways, this is a support drone, not a "press 1 to win" drone. Yes i want the powers to do more damage in this MP, but not to the point where you one shot everything. By the look of some of these post about it, you people want it to do all the work for you. |
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