Seeming ubiquity of melee in AMP

In 3MP getting a melee build to actually work was difficult and a lil hipsterish. I was super proud of good ol krogan sentinel melee nade build back in the day (pre warlord).

Now anything besides a melee or vanq build is hipster.

I have not played for the past few days and after the patch because I cannot even start mutiplayer as the game CTDs right after I press the button. And actually, I am quite content with it, there is no itch. I even feel some relief.

Melee does about same damage as in ME3, even maybe slightly less although animation might be slightly faster, so melee dps is a bit higher. The main problem is that other things don't work completely including all powers and power combos and majority of weapons. There are only two types of grenades and their damage is OKish. Also, a lot of powers have some ridiculous cool down. So, it is actually faster to headbutt all the things than trying to blow them up or shoot in the head. Melee has considerable AoE and works more or less reliably off host whereas headshots, for example, just don't work off host most of the time every time. The game is in really sorry state ATM and looks like the patch did not improve much. There are just so many things broken that it makes little sense to anybody but people at Bioware, it is borderline absurd. Just watch the video TTT posted with her Asari adept:



Well, TTT is brilliant as always but it looks and feels ridiculous even to watch. The enemies don't hit as hard as in ME3, and there are some evos that replenish barrier on each melee hit that actually landed. It reminds me of heal on hit from DAIMP, probably same person designed the features. Now, every adept is a juggernaut, and enemies should beware.

Apart from the reasons mentioned above... 

1. MEA lacks of enemies that sync-kill (the biggest reason how a Krogan Warlord gets owned)
2. MEA allows you to dash to quickly shorten the distance between you and enemies for non-vanguard characters.

Erm... what?

PLEAAAASSEEE...
Its sooooo easy to stay away from them in battle.
They are slow, and you don't need to kill them. Just leave them till the end of the wave.

In ME3 gold level, you can have up to 4 phantoms in a wave, and it is much more annoying if you are aiming to melee.
Not to mention the maps are much smaller in ME3.

I am refering to the MEAmp environment before the patch as this ubiquity of melee is an already existed phenomena. Whether the melee will still be an ubiquitous phenomena after the patch? Need more time to tell. 

That doesn't disprove my point.
You can still say the same thing to banshee's magnetic hand and her teleportation through wall.

And, at the moment, only Kett has the units that can really sync-kill you (As we know hydra is a joke).
While in ME3, we have Collector, Reaper and Cerberus.

I'm just pointing out its not "sooooooo easy to dodge them". Banshees used to occasionally nab me too. I could also just be a super scrubadub though.

What exactly are we advocating for? More sync killers? I'd take more sync killers in other factions. Kett have enough.

Do you know what's even EASIER than dodging away from sync-kills and keeping an eye out for being flanked and trying not to be staggered while locked in a melee animation?

Sniping things w/ a Vanquisher from far away and not even having to deal w/ any of that as long as you have even the tiniest bit of spatial awareness so you don't get jumped from behind.

Yes, we get it, melee's risks don't seem huge, but they are most certainly larger than any OTHER playstyle at the moment.  Especially considering that even snipers have access to melee that's "good enough" if they get attacked by dogs or whatever.

That is why sniping with vanquisher is also an ubiquitous phenomena in MEAmp. But that's another story.

As long as the risk is worth the reward, people will still use melee. 

Hmm, I am not trying to defend or attack the current ubiquitous phenomena of melee. I was merely trying to explain why melee is way more popular in MEAmp than in ME3mp in my first post. 


However, I do agree with you.
I did enjoy using shotguns for CQC in ME3mp.
I did enjoy using adepts to create BEs in ME3mp.

It certainly would cheer ME3mp veterans up if we could embrace these play styles again.

Nades?! Lift Grenades are too powerful and take away from glorious Krogan punching. Go back and spec out of that shit immediately. Throw the Graal on him and play him like the Krogan he is. 

QGG: Yeah, melee is the most accessible form of damage in MEAMP.  Outside of Sniper Infiltrators, there is nothing else at the lower levels that is truly viable. Powers have ridiculously long cooldowns and weapons tickle. Every mook is a goddamn slog to kill even with the best weapons and I'm not just talking about with lower manifest either. Watching Stardusk's or TTT's videos, you can see that the weapons like the Equalizer are merely OK, yet it is a top-tier weapon in this game.

The reward for killing an enemy isn't a visceral acknowledgment of a skillful shot, it's more of a relief that the ordeal is over.

If I had to compare MEAMP weapons to ME3MP weapons:

Vanquisher (best weapon in MEA) = Valiant with slower firing speed and slightly larger clip.
Equalizer = CSMG with less accuracy and damage, low to mid range and hits more like the Locust.
Carnifex = Phalanx with slow firing speed
 
Balance can fix these issues, but it's a ways off in the current state.