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Post by tabion on Apr 9, 2017 13:13:52 GMT
Hey! So there is a lot of speculation about whether or not we'll be in the footsteps of Ryder again in future installments. At first, I thought it wouldn't really make sense -not- to, but then I started to think ... it would actually be pretty cool to experience the andromeda galaxy from someone else's perspective that isn't a pathfinder. hear me out. Imagine if we played as someone who is maybe not equally as capable as Ryder, but capable enough, and they are able to craft a compelling enough story on a small scale for us to further explore species/relationships in a more intimate way (a la ME2) ... and while you do this, you may encounter Ryder out in the field. Or randomly return to the nexus and see the Tempest docked. It would make you think, "I wonder what Ryder is doing here? Something important?" Tann's office might be closed off while they have a meeting. Maybe he'll be walking around with his scanner out trying to find whats causing power outages. Or him and his team are planetside under one of those randomly placed umbrellas in the field on Eos taking a break. I dunno.. to me, I think with us playing and becoming inspiration for the Nexus through the events of ME:A, it would be cool to experience it from the perspective of someone who looks up to Ryder/wants to impress/be a part of the team for at least one game. We know what it's like to be a pathfinder and I would say the people of the nexus look at them the same way people looked at Shepard in a way... it would be a nice way for us to fall in love with our own legend, if Ryder is dangled in front of us throughout the game and not having access to him/her all the time. In my opinion, though, they would have had to introduce a character in some way that's familiar who has interacted with Ryder at some point. Someone who we know would be able to get things done. Someone like Kandros, maybe, if he didn't just stand in his office all day. I can't think of any candidates, so I would say that requirement isn't fulfilled to be able to do a game like that. It wouldn't be wise to introduce a new badass character out of nowhere, imo. What do you think? EDIT: fixed title, sorry! lol. That's what I get for trying to rush this thread while at work
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 9, 2017 14:18:42 GMT
I think you mean protagonist. An antagonist is the main bad guy (the Archon).
But I'm pretty sure we'll be sticking with Ryder. They set up a LOT of stuff for the sequel, some of it tied heavily to the Ryder family.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 9, 2017 14:23:24 GMT
If there ever is an Andromeda 2, I hope it's not Ryder again.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 9, 2017 14:30:38 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again.
Its getting old BioWare.
*Sips Ryncol*
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 9, 2017 14:42:16 GMT
I think I'd prefer to have the current perspective expanded rather than replaced. So I say bring on more Ryder.
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Post by wolfsite on Apr 9, 2017 14:45:17 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again. Its getting old BioWare. *Sips Ryncol* Hey Zipzap have you ever tied a Salarian to a ceiling fan? Drack mentioned it once and said it was funny.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 9, 2017 14:46:37 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again. Its getting old BioWare. *Sips Ryncol* Hey Zipzap have you ever tied a Salarian to a ceiling fan? Drack mentioned it once and said it was funny. Was he moving like a whale doing ballet at the time? I hear thats what it looks like when Krogan follow Asari commando training
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 9, 2017 14:47:32 GMT
I'd love to see Ryder's story progressed. It's a lazy route by just ditching them plus it's not mass effect to just change protagonists game by game.
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Post by wolfsite on Apr 9, 2017 14:48:07 GMT
Hey Zipzap have you ever tied a Salarian to a ceiling fan? Drack mentioned it once and said it was funny. Was he moving like a whale doing ballet at the time? I hear thats what it looks like when Krogan follow Asari commando training That wasn't a yes
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Post by kumazan on Apr 9, 2017 14:48:39 GMT
I think I'd prefer to have the current perspective expanded rather than replaced. So I say bring on more Ryder. This. And after what they've set up with the Ryder Family arc, they just can't throw Ryder out the airlock.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 9, 2017 14:49:08 GMT
I would love for Ryder to be the antagonist next time, Id love to shoot him/her.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 9, 2017 14:49:29 GMT
Was he moving like a whale doing ballet at the time? I hear thats what it looks like when Krogan follow Asari commando training That wasn't a yes It wasnt a no either. *Sips Ryncol*
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Post by blaw on Apr 9, 2017 14:56:47 GMT
To have an already established character like Kandros as the protagonist would cause a shitstorm. There would be even less opportunities to form your own character than Witcher 3 (oh yes, I just said that).
I prefer to have two big expansions like W3 that deal with the Jaardan, Scourge, Kett and the Ryder Family. Give closure to everything and then be done with Mass Effect. Concentrate on the IP, DA and maybe make a brand new sci fi IP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 15:00:30 GMT
"Fall in love with our own legend"? Sounds like "Now go! Let the legend come back to life!"
Antagonist? Either you've been playing MGS V: The Phantom Pain, or Bioware played us like a damn fiddle!
Actually, I could go for some Venom Ryder...
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Post by Addictress on Apr 9, 2017 15:01:21 GMT
I know you guys are sick of AI issues but....
Evil SAM/Ryder would be fucking amazing. He's overpowered so if he got corrupted he'd be a great villain to beat.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 9, 2017 15:06:14 GMT
I know you guys are sick of AI issues but.... Evil SAM/Ryder would be fucking amazing. He's overpowered so if he got corrupted he'd be a great villain to beat. And very satisfying. Every time he talks I want the option to shoot it.
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Post by Addictress on Apr 9, 2017 15:13:17 GMT
SAM: "Ryder, as we explored, I developed a fascination with the dark matter in the scourge. I believe that it is only a matter of time when every particle of our universe is irrevocably changed. We must hasten the process."
Ryder: "What? How could you say that? I don't agree - GAH! AAAGGHHH!"
So easy. And then they can explore the original dark energy themes or whatever that they had intended to explore in MET.
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Post by Zemgus on Apr 9, 2017 15:14:35 GMT
I wouldn't mind this actually. Next game having a different protagonist doesn't mean Ryder couldn't return as the main character in another MEA game. I already wish they would do this with Dragon Age. With so much going on with the Wardens and the Weishaupt, it just won't be the same when we finally get to visit the Anderfels and meet the mysterious First Warden, if we are some random unrelated stranger instead of The Warden. Same with Inquisitor and Solas.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 9, 2017 15:35:56 GMT
I know you guys are sick of AI issues but.... Evil SAM/Ryder would be fucking amazing. He's overpowered so if he got corrupted he'd be a great villain to beat. I don't know if amazing is the word I'd use. It'd be pretty risky, but I know outright that I'd fuckin' hate it. I guess I can take comfort in the fact that BioWare will never do this.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 9, 2017 15:41:14 GMT
If there ever is an Andromeda 2, I hope it's not Ryder again. I'd hope so gives us a chance to develop them further
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 9, 2017 15:56:26 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again. Its getting old BioWare. *Sips Ryncol* I don't know. Fighting all sorts of crazy AI infused creatures was sort of iconic ME trope. AI sure helps to control Remnants, but Ryder relies on a machine and "machines can be broken". #KadaraWillRemainFree
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 9, 2017 16:02:11 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again. Its getting old BioWare. *Sips Ryncol* I don't know. Fighting all sorts of crazy AI infused creatures was sort of iconic ME trope. AI sure helps to control Remnants, but Ryder relies on a machine and "machines can be broken". #KadaraWillRemainFree But machines can't fight back if you throw them out the airlock.
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Post by kingmandu on Apr 9, 2017 17:11:32 GMT
Ryder has far, far more potential for development and growth than Shepard ever did. I'm in for Ryder getting another game or two.
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Post by SKAR on Apr 9, 2017 19:08:54 GMT
If Ryder isn't the protag then i'm tying the noose.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 9, 2017 20:30:50 GMT
Im sick of Ryder as an antagonis too. Next time we should be fighting Kett instead of going over the evil AI mind control trope again. Its getting old BioWare. *Sips Ryncol* Where did this come from? I think it set up the kett as the bad guys for the next game.
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