All the information from Pax West - September 3-4

The above quote seems "preachy" to me in light of this last statement:  "...or keeping the conversation going; it’s crucial. Hear from those who did it and how they’ll do it again."

Rather than making an excellent game, it seems that Bioware's primary goal now is more a of a political message to provide inclusiveness and make Bioware games more than just "Bro" games.

I believe it is possible for Bioware to make an excellent game that is also inclusive, but I wonder if Bioware is putting the cart before the horse.  To me, Bioware seems more proud of the inclusiveness of DAI, rather than the quality of the game itself.

I wonder whether Bioware wants to make MEA a great game with inclusiveness, given that at least one of the MEA writers seems like he might be more concerned with preaching progressive politics than making a good game.

Hopefully, Bioware will strive to make MEA, DA4 and the New IP as great games with inclusiveness, rather than have inclusiveness be the primary goal.

rIt isn't just one panel. They literally won't shut up about it.

And listening to it is like when someone quits smoking and suddenly gets preachy about not smoking, as if their shit never stunk.

That's Bioware to me. A bunch of mostly 40 something white guys who have some newfound view of diversity. I am a racial minority myself and I'm sick of it. And I live it. Weekes in particular annoys me though because he used to post at Somethingawful and acted like a typical dude there at times. He wasn't some standard bearer for feminism. He objectified some even. I could dig up posts, but one that sticks out is when the Sin City movie came out.. and Jessica Alba had an interview at the time where she said she didn't want to be a sex object. Weekes had joined in with everyone else and ridiculed her as nothing more than a sex object. Funnily enough, she's now one of the richest female entrepreneurs in the world (albeit with some current controversy apparently). This is coming from a guy who says now he doesn't want to get in the way of a woman's "dreams".

But my main point is they need to talk about games. It's even worse when they talk about this other stuff and it's coming from hypocrites and people who don't live any of the experiences they're talking about.

I guess you had spend your last 5 years in some kind of cryo-pod? Let me bring you up to speed then. They had raised their rainbow banner since DA2 (which is 6 years ago), and they carried it on with ME3 (which is 4 years ago) to add more of it with DAI (which is 2 years ago).

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for inclusiveness, but at some point their preaching gets old. And yes - that's what they do. Or at least that's how plenty of people percieve it, which basically makes it the same thing.

It's fun to see how they chalk their own old games off, by the way. Like KOTOR with Juhani and JE with Sky and Silk Fox. Those games are 11-12 years old, and yet they put Bull, Dorian or Crem as 'top-notch revolutionary' characters? One would think that 10 years of game-writing is long enough to speak for itself.

There was also a big Mass Effect panel at Salt Lake Comic Con last week. I say "big," but about 600 Mass Effect fans were there. It was just to celebrate 10 years of Mass Effect and share theories of Andromeda. No official Bioware people, just authors. But it was a hell of a lot of fun. I wonder if I can find the panel on youtube somewhere.

Quick question: so they didn't talk about ME:A at all? (if anything?)

Self-aggrandising filler of the highest order just what good people paid good money to go see. Gold star BioWare, now given how totally progressive you are... why don't you let your employees unionize and publish your employment statistics for the whole world to see just how progressive you really are? Maybe then i'll believe you not that I care.