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Post by Fabuio on Apr 10, 2017 13:34:54 GMT
those are the reasons why mass effect andromeda it's a mess:
1: no music! the first thing that i noticed playng this game is the music that is no nearly comparable to the mass effect 3's soundtrack: where's the epic music that create the tipical atmosphere of mass effect?!
2: the game: with this system of exploration, similar at the one used on the first ME, the game is too dispersive with all this side quest the main story lose importance and in the end begin to be boring
3: the crew: ok, are you serius? a salarian and a women pilot your ship?! raellly?! and the rest of the crew I was not able to get attached to any of them no nearly comparable to the normandy crew!
4: Andromeda initiative: the investigations about the initiative ends a second after the starts, one of the interesting things of this game used in the worst way possible
5: the end: you defeat the ket and you got no answers , let's skip the fact that the finel battle sucks, you simple defeat the kett leader and that's all, ryder's mum still in the stasis pod, no answers about what happen in the milky way, no answers about the angara creations, no info about shepard( why the game asks you the gender of shepard ?!)
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 10, 2017 14:04:38 GMT
Surprise! You will get to pay for the privilege of tying up those loose ends in DLCs.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 10, 2017 14:27:17 GMT
3. The crew is Kalo, Gil and Suvi, basically, respectively, pilot, science officer and engineer. Thats pretty much it, the rest arent necessary to operate the Tempest. Why is that an issue?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 10, 2017 14:34:47 GMT
1.agreed, is a little disappointing on the music not being so in your face like the previous games, I am able to put it aside however, especially when it seems to be what most games these days do.
2. I disagree on this one. While they don't all tie into the main plot, they are extras for those interested and can be ignored for those who dislike them. Don't force yourself to play dude quests if you're not interested.
3. "A salarian and woman" your point? Joker is just a human, even I could make the old crew sound bland if I chose to. Don't forget the OT had three games to flesh out most of those characters where as Andromeda is just getting started. Honestly going by just the starter of each trilogy (if Andromeda gets that chance) I'd put Andromedas characters over my baby ME1.
4. Assuming this is about the mystery benefactor and the jien Garson case, I'll agree it was disappointing to not see the conclusion, but as another said, expect DLC to finish that one off.
5. I think you're downplaying the ending. We established trust with the Angarans, establish a diplomat in a sense for all the cluster races to help shape the future of their relations, learn of the kett being bigger than just the Archon and being a threatening empire that we will most likely see for the rest of the trilogy (again, if given the chance), we learn the Angarans true origins and we still have the scourge to deal with. Oh, and there's still an entire galaxy to explore and continue Ryder's story (although I'd love them to expand and let us pick our own race to play as, give me an Asari pathfinder). I completely agree the final battle sucks, not really a boss fight to me but more so just kill the mobs, shoot the architect head and boom, cutscenes to finish it. I do honestly think andromeda has the best ending of all the mass effect however. It sets up a sequal perfectly and does give you questions that a sequal or future DLC can resolve, but it still gives you plenty of answers.
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Post by LFS on Apr 10, 2017 14:59:42 GMT
lol, women pilots...What'll they think of next!
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Post by Turian Werewolf on Apr 10, 2017 15:04:14 GMT
I like Andromeda, but the pacing of this game is really terrible.
It took me 100 hours to clear it, and while I enjoyed the party banter while out exploring planets, the sheer amount of "tasks" was atrocious. It started to grate on me by the midway point.
I don't think BioWare has to live in shame because of CDProjektRed, but they SHOULD look at The Witcher 3 as far as sidequests go. They don't have to be THIS generic and grindy, and if they can overcome that for the sequel, they'll be in great shape.
I know I can skip most of them on replays, and that's exactly what I'll do, but I'd prefer them to put more effort into it instead.
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Post by kino on Apr 10, 2017 15:10:21 GMT
Agreed about the music.
...and that's about all.
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Post by Fabuio on Apr 10, 2017 15:14:47 GMT
1.agreed, is a little disappointing on the music not being so in your face like the previous games, I am able to put it aside however, especially when it seems to be what most games these days do. 2. I disagree on this one. While they don't all tie into the main plot, they are extras for those interested and can be ignored for those who dislike them. Don't force yourself to play dude quests if you're not interested. 3. "A salarian and woman" your point? Joker is just a human, even I could make the old crew sound bland if I chose to. Don't forget the OT had three games to flesh out most of those characters where as Andromeda is just getting started. Honestly going by just the starter of each trilogy (if Andromeda gets that chance) I'd put Andromedas characters over my baby ME1. 4. Assuming this is about the mystery benefactor and the jien Garson case, I'll agree it was disappointing to not see the conclusion, but as another said, expect DLC to finish that one off. 5. I think you're downplaying the ending. We established trust with the Angarans, establish a diplomat in a sense for all the cluster races to help shape the future of their relations, learn of the kett being bigger than just the Archon and being a threatening empire that we will most likely see for the rest of the trilogy (again, if given the chance), we learn the Angarans true origins and we still have the scourge to deal with. Oh, and there's still an entire galaxy to explore and continue Ryder's story (although I'd love them to expand and let us pick our own race to play as, give me an Asari pathfinder). I completely agree the final battle sucks, not really a boss fight to me but more so just kill the mobs, shoot the architect head and boom, cutscenes to finish it. I do honestly think andromeda has the best ending of all the mass effect however. It sets up a sequal perfectly and does give you questions that a sequal or future DLC can resolve, but it still gives you plenty of answers. 2. not all the side quest are extras to the main story a big part of them are just going to one planet to another and personally i prefer the mass effect 2 and 3 way to complete quest. 3. you want to comapre those two idiot to jeff moreau and EDI? 5.i've complete the game at 90% circa before the start of the final mission. And i'm so sad that everyone considerate DLC a normal thing used to complete the story.... DLC should be extra stories to add in the main one like cdproject did in the witcher 3
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Post by Fabuio on Apr 10, 2017 15:28:08 GMT
lol, women pilots...What'll they think of next! yep i expect a transessual pilot for the next one and a krogan
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 10, 2017 15:29:52 GMT
1.agreed, is a little disappointing on the music not being so in your face like the previous games, I am able to put it aside however, especially when it seems to be what most games these days do. 2. I disagree on this one. While they don't all tie into the main plot, they are extras for those interested and can be ignored for those who dislike them. Don't force yourself to play dude quests if you're not interested. 3. "A salarian and woman" your point? Joker is just a human, even I could make the old crew sound bland if I chose to. Don't forget the OT had three games to flesh out most of those characters where as Andromeda is just getting started. Honestly going by just the starter of each trilogy (if Andromeda gets that chance) I'd put Andromedas characters over my baby ME1. 4. Assuming this is about the mystery benefactor and the jien Garson case, I'll agree it was disappointing to not see the conclusion, but as another said, expect DLC to finish that one off. 5. I think you're downplaying the ending. We established trust with the Angarans, establish a diplomat in a sense for all the cluster races to help shape the future of their relations, learn of the kett being bigger than just the Archon and being a threatening empire that we will most likely see for the rest of the trilogy (again, if given the chance), we learn the Angarans true origins and we still have the scourge to deal with. Oh, and there's still an entire galaxy to explore and continue Ryder's story (although I'd love them to expand and let us pick our own race to play as, give me an Asari pathfinder). I completely agree the final battle sucks, not really a boss fight to me but more so just kill the mobs, shoot the architect head and boom, cutscenes to finish it. I do honestly think andromeda has the best ending of all the mass effect however. It sets up a sequal perfectly and does give you questions that a sequal or future DLC can resolve, but it still gives you plenty of answers. 2. not all the side quest are extras to the main story a big part of them are just going to one planet to another and personally i prefer the mass effect 2 and 3 way to complete quest. 3. you want to comapre those two idiot to jeff moreau and EDI? 5.i've complete the game at 90% circa before the start of the final mission. And i'm so sad that everyone considerate DLC a normal thing used to complete the story.... DLC should be extra stories to add in the main one like cdproject did in the witcher 3 2. I see, you're wanting it to be more linear then. Ehh, I don't mind linear, but I prefer the exploration aspect of Andromeda. My issue with sidequests is having to come back and forth between worlds over one quest. Or finishing a quest, getting to tempest, get an email only to head right back, especially annoying on kadara because those doors take ages to open compared to the rest of the hub worlds. 3.what exactly makes you think suvi andkalloare idiots? Kallohas proven he can drive through the scourge (as I'm sure joker can as well). Both seem competent pilots that would be better than most others. The tempest also doesn't rely off an AI like the Normandy did so I can't compare EDI to SAM, however SAM enhances combat if the pathfinder where as EDI didn't. Suvi is just like Samantha trainer if you ask me, both with scientific minds but not necessarily playing a big role. 5. I agree 100% on dlc shouldn't be required to finish a story, I'm just saying odds are that's what they'll do here. I'd prefer they continue off the sequels instead, make those questions bigger, give them more depth and meaning. Make andromeda 2 be about why the initiative was started, what it's true purpose really is, the roles of the key figures, etc etc. I still see them doing that by dlc instead, and I see the sequal being about another cluster as well as getting a war vs the kett started.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 10, 2017 15:31:02 GMT
1.agreed, is a little disappointing on the music not being so in your face like the previous games, I am able to put it aside however, especially when it seems to be what most games these days do. 2. I disagree on this one. While they don't all tie into the main plot, they are extras for those interested and can be ignored for those who dislike them. Don't force yourself to play dude quests if you're not interested. 3. "A salarian and woman" your point? Joker is just a human, even I could make the old crew sound bland if I chose to. Don't forget the OT had three games to flesh out most of those characters where as Andromeda is just getting started. Honestly going by just the starter of each trilogy (if Andromeda gets that chance) I'd put Andromedas characters over my baby ME1. 4. Assuming this is about the mystery benefactor and the jien Garson case, I'll agree it was disappointing to not see the conclusion, but as another said, expect DLC to finish that one off. 5. I think you're downplaying the ending. We established trust with the Angarans, establish a diplomat in a sense for all the cluster races to help shape the future of their relations, learn of the kett being bigger than just the Archon and being a threatening empire that we will most likely see for the rest of the trilogy (again, if given the chance), we learn the Angarans true origins and we still have the scourge to deal with. Oh, and there's still an entire galaxy to explore and continue Ryder's story (although I'd love them to expand and let us pick our own race to play as, give me an Asari pathfinder). I completely agree the final battle sucks, not really a boss fight to me but more so just kill the mobs, shoot the architect head and boom, cutscenes to finish it. I do honestly think andromeda has the best ending of all the mass effect however. It sets up a sequal perfectly and does give you questions that a sequal or future DLC can resolve, but it still gives you plenty of answers. 2. not all the side quest are extras to the main story a big part of them are just going to one planet to another and personally i prefer the mass effect 2 and 3 way to complete quest. 3. you want to comapre those two idiot to jeff moreau and EDI? 5.i've complete the game at 90% circa before the start of the final mission. And i'm so sad that everyone considerate DLC a normal thing used to complete the story.... DLC should be extra stories to add in the main one like cdproject did in the witcher 3 You are making assumptions about DLC's. Andromeda isnt a stand alone one off game but part of a larger, ongoing series, so of course its not going to reveal everything in the first game. That would be nonsensical and self-defeating. Yes, Joker was a great character and ME3 EDI wasnt bad either but I have zero issue replacing them with Kalo and Suvi, they're both pretty good characters and Suvi isnt a pilot but the science officer.
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 10, 2017 15:34:26 GMT
I totally agree on the DLC and that they should be separate stories from the main story. This would be super easy to do with Andromeda too (a whole new galaxy to explore, and outposts to improve)
They made the same mistake in ME3, putting really important chunks of the main story into DLC (Protheans? Leviathans? Omega? C'mon, these were MAJOR main story items!) Many people didn't bother with these because they had moved on from the game already. I'd prefer that they put their best foot forward with a complete main story instead of cutting it up to make DLC.
Again, the Witcher comparison is completely valid in this respect. Blood and Wine was a wonderful add-on that was totally unique and independent from the main game, with it's own interesting story.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 10, 2017 16:02:39 GMT
3. Compared to Kallo, Joker kinda sucks. I never really found him compelling in ME1. There was plenty of amusement in 2 when EDI was around, and he got better in 3, but if I'm honest, if he died in ME2 I wouldn't have minded.
4. I took this as more of a callback than anything else. We are basically 600 years out of date, and we can never really know what happened without canonization.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 10, 2017 16:33:44 GMT
I totally agree on the DLC and that they should be separate stories from the main story. This would be super easy to do with Andromeda too (a whole new galaxy to explore, and outposts to improve) They made the same mistake in ME3, putting really important chunks of the main story into DLC (Protheans? Leviathans? Omega? C'mon, these were MAJOR main story items!) Many people didn't bother with these because they had moved on from the game already. I'd prefer that they put their best foot forward with a complete main story instead of cutting it up to make DLC. Again, the Witcher comparison is completely valid in this respect. Blood and Wine was a wonderful add-on that was totally unique and independent from the main game, with it's own interesting story. Good thing then we know what DLC's are coming out, huh? Oh...wait, we havent got a clue.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 10, 2017 16:34:11 GMT
1) Yes, I don't know what the music direction was for this game. Unless my game is bugged I don't even here music most of the time, and the battle themes are kind of lackluster.
2) The quests never ruined the story for me, because the story never really made much sense to me. You were supposed to be a Pathfinder, which to me meant checking the viability of worlds before anyone attempted to colonize them, making first contacts, or just generally being the first to see things. By the time you get to Andromeda all of this has been done, and some of the worlds have working settlements and are living with Angarans. Had their been no Kett and no Scourge, probably all of the planets would have been colonized by the time you got there without any Pathfinder involvement, because there were none on the Nexus, which made no sense at all. The whole design of the initiative made no sense to me.
3) I don't really have an issue with the crew, I think Suvi is a good character, I actually like the conversations on faith and science. Kallo I'm really indifferent to. I really don't talk to him much anymore.
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Post by Serza on Apr 10, 2017 16:40:17 GMT
BITCHER ALERT, GET THE SIRENS...
...and the moment you mentioned that should've-been-swallowed... thing, I knew my suspicions about you were right.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 10, 2017 16:57:22 GMT
They made the same mistake in ME3, putting really important chunks of the main story into DLC (Protheans? Leviathans? Omega? C'mon, these were MAJOR main story items!) Many people didn't bother with these because they had moved on from the game already. I'd prefer that they put their best foot forward with a complete main story instead of cutting it up to make DLC. This isn't really true. The Leviathans weren't moved to DLC because they hadn't been written yet. Omega was always there as a DLC hook, and I wouldn't call Omega a major story item anyway. Javik was moved to DLC, but I don't see a case for the protheans actually being important. The only special thing about them is the scientists on Ilos; other than that, they're just another exterminated cycle who by chance happened to be the one before Shepard's cycle.
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Post by jpcab on Apr 10, 2017 17:01:42 GMT
As i said in a post that was deleted i think the company received millions due to the mass efect name and the budget for the game was the lowest possible.Music..actors everything is worse than on the trilogy. It seems rushed wich is incredible since they had 5 years to create this game
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Post by cypherj on Apr 10, 2017 17:04:52 GMT
They made the same mistake in ME3, putting really important chunks of the main story into DLC (Protheans? Leviathans? Omega? C'mon, these were MAJOR main story items!) Many people didn't bother with these because they had moved on from the game already. I'd prefer that they put their best foot forward with a complete main story instead of cutting it up to make DLC. This isn't really true. The Leviathans weren't moved to DLC because they hadn't been written yet. Omega was always there as a DLC hook, and I wouldn't call Omega a major story item anyway. Javik was moved to DLC, but I don't see a case for the protheans actually being important. The only special thing about them is the scientists on Ilos; other than that, they're just another exterminated cycle who by chance happened to be the one before Shepard's cycle. You'd been hearing about Protheans and their civilization constantly up until ME3. Who are they, how did they fight the reapers, and you don't think finally being able to meet one in the flesh was important? I don't blame fans who were upset about that money grab at all. They did it because they knew meeting a Prothean would be important to players.
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 10, 2017 17:08:42 GMT
I totally agree on the DLC and that they should be separate stories from the main story. This would be super easy to do with Andromeda too (a whole new galaxy to explore, and outposts to improve) They made the same mistake in ME3, putting really important chunks of the main story into DLC (Protheans? Leviathans? Omega? C'mon, these were MAJOR main story items!) Many people didn't bother with these because they had moved on from the game already. I'd prefer that they put their best foot forward with a complete main story instead of cutting it up to make DLC. Again, the Witcher comparison is completely valid in this respect. Blood and Wine was a wonderful add-on that was totally unique and independent from the main game, with it's own interesting story. Good thing then we know what DLC's are coming out, huh? Oh...wait, we havent got a clue. I'm not going to post spoilers, but we can pretty much guess what the DLC is based on unresolved story lines from the main game. Either that, or they are going to leave the story lines unresolved until the next game, which is even worse.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 10, 2017 17:11:40 GMT
They really dropped the ball with squadmates.
In any individual game of the trilogy (ME3 just a bit less), you wanted to be friends with some characters because they were cool. In Andromeda they force you to be friends and want you to think those characters are cool. Obviously it doesn't work.
In other words. You want a movie night if you like the characters, you don't like the character if there is a movie night.
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Post by bakgrind on Apr 10, 2017 17:17:34 GMT
To be honest I could not even say what the music tracks sound like in this game. I usually play a game and listen to my own music should I choose to. I have the audio audio programed that I use tuned in such a way that I only hear the FX and the dialogue in the game and the music set to off. But the rest I didn't have a problem with.
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Post by derrame on Apr 10, 2017 17:34:42 GMT
i'm good with suvi and kallo as pilots, they are great
what i don't like is th gigantic maps and boring exploration and borin fetch quests
and this game has way too few cinematics and cutscenes
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 10, 2017 17:52:02 GMT
i'm good with suvi and kallo as pilots, they are great what i don't like is th gigantic maps and boring exploration and borin fetch quests and this game has way too few cinematics and cutscenes Eh? There's plenty of cutscenes/cinematica througout this game, I'd say in general much more than Inquisition. Just about all companion dialogue is in the shot reverse shot format, each loyalty mission has various sets throughout, as does each priority op. Even some inconsequential NPC's get cutscenes.
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March 2017
thumbfu
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by thumbfu on Apr 10, 2017 18:16:56 GMT
Honestly i would have been happy if they cut the majority of the large scale content and made it a sleeker, more focused story, i've said this a few times in different threads. This is a decent game, but it isn't the Mass Effect I remember. I never wanted an open world(ish) game in this series, the reason i love it is the characters and story, unfortunately the main story is hampered too much by the sheer size and amount of other content in there... who would have thought people would complain about there being too much content ay?
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