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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 14:18:08 GMT
Drack is one of the most developed characters in the game. He has a much better backstory than the main protagonist. True, but he's still just a softer version of Wrex. How is he soft in any way? He killed a thresher maw with his bare hands...
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Post by phantomrachie on Apr 11, 2017 15:05:03 GMT
Kesh was a female, so why can't she has a more high pitched voice? Was she? Swore she wasn't. I dunno. It just didn't gel with me like Eve did. Perhaps it's just the voice acting being a bit... eh, at times. I'm sorry - how did you not figure that out? Drack calls her his granddaughter on multiple occasions, she is referred to as 'she' by multiple NPCs during Drack's loyalty mission her boyfriend calls her 'she' and she introduces you to her clutch at the end of the game. I really don't think it's the voicing acting this time.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 15:06:03 GMT
How is he soft in any way? He killed a thresher maw with his bare hands... He did? I must have missed this story.
Anyway, I meant in his attitude, how he is this grumpy care bear under all his spiky hide.
I overheard him talking to Gil about it on the Tempest. Fair enough. I wouldn't say he's soft, but he does talk about his emotions a lot compared to Wrex or Grunt.
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Post by krazyguy on Apr 11, 2017 15:14:03 GMT
Drack was awesome, his my favourite though, I do agree that the krogan got the shaft in terms of their colony, I mean it was cool seeing so many and also meeting an urdnot and that arena battle was sweet but I think my main issue was the overlord, didn't give me enough with her, I didn't know if it was a good thing giving her what she wanted or not, I mean, the game tells you she's not gonna do anything bad with it but her first impression was not great and that fight was NOT GREAT AT ALL, otherwise more krogan with quads of Drack pls.
EDIT: I liked Vorn and Kesh too though.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 11, 2017 15:32:44 GMT
Assuming this is true of Nakmor, what does this mean? Here Morda is with her clan, either with Wrex's blessing or without it, trying to achieve a similar goal to his. (The only other time we hear of Nakmor in-game, we see Morda's ambassador visiting Wrex to discuss an alliance. Clearly, she chose a different path.) It's obvious you prefer the brooding, hostile krogan we mostly encounter in the OT. They're still around. No species makes better warriors and intimidators than the krogan. (They absolutely, joyfully slaughtered the "rebels" on the Nexus. It was bad enough to turn Sloane Kelly away from her peers permanently.) There were plenty of these typical krogan in-game. I was constantly challenged and mocked by krogan in New Tuchanka. That posturing is their way. I'm pleased, though, that they are choosing to show that the species is more than a bunch of bloodthirsty knuckle-draggers, led by the occasional visionary. Morda's people are attempting to embrace their new opportunity, especially the young krogan, and I like it. In other words a bunch of Krogan whose clans were destroyed by a more dominant force got chased off Tuchanka and ran all the way to another Galaxy to start over. And it is true Wrexs war asset or codex entry. The Nakmor and Jorgal destroyed or absorbed. Nakmor ambassador was in Wrexs camp during Grunts loyalty mission negotiating, Jorgal scouts spotted the first reaper scouts at the shroud. The milkybway Krogan were even more organised in that respect hierarchy, rites, you name it. These guys seem like they're half arsing it. And If you want smart Krogan Warlord O'keer is your Krogan. Okeer's amoral (evil?) intelligence isn't the only intelligence we should see among the krogan. Clan Nakmor is proving that the image of krogan that the galaxy has isn't solely a matter of genes. Environment, both the genophage inspired despair and the rise of patriarchal clans, is as much to blame. They are trying a "new way", likely more in line with the pre-Nuclear krogan, based upon what Bakara and Wrex have told us. If the krogan weren't capable of being a society that isn't largely aggressive and brutish , they'd have never achieved nuclear physics. They'd have never been capable of waging an interstellar war against the Council and Turian Empire. This took more than numbers; it also takes intelligence and cunning. In MEA, you hear the friction between the krogan who have already embraced the new ideas, and those who are simply going along with the Warlord. As Wrex acknowledged, the krogan aren't going to change easily or overnight. This is why the most progressive krogan we see are the young ones, who aren't as set in the typical post-genophage malaise. They've truly embraced the Initiative as a fresh start.* Older krogan are understandably skeptical. * I begin to think that reading the novel really helped me appreciate the game in a broader way. While many think that the main plot of MEA is "stop the Archon" (and therefore think the sidequests distract from the plot) , I view it as clearly two-part: settle Heleus first, and stop the Archon of necessity. I also found the overwhelming buy-in of the AI pioneers, as portrayed in the novel, reflected in all of the assorted NPCs we meet. They still want to believe, or have had their hopes crushed, depending upon their circumstances. Even the worst of the worst are still happy, in a subdued way, to finally see a Pathfinder. They realize that maybe all hope isn't lost, after all. Clan Nakmor was no different. Maybe they're more grumpy, and less vocal, with their buy-in; but Morda brought them to Heleus because she wanted to see the krogan be viewed and treated in a fresh way, both by others and amongst themselves. In her view, the krogan were headed for more manipulation, prejudice, and likely extinction, in the Milky Way. She shared this view with Wrex. The two simply chose two separate paths to address it. Bringing this tangent fully back on topic, I think they did a great job of showing this conflict and growth within Clan Nakmor. The only failing was likely the way they portrayed Morda herself, in game. She seemed a brute. Without the context of the novel, and really meditating upon why Jorgal Strux thought she was weak, it's easy to see her as just another, untrustworthy krogan bully.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 11, 2017 15:34:36 GMT
Was she? Swore she wasn't. I dunno. It just didn't gel with me like Eve did. Perhaps it's just the voice acting being a bit... eh, at times. I'm sorry - how did you not figure that out? Drack calls her his granddaughter on multiple occasions, she is referred to as 'she' by multiple NPCs during Drack's loyalty mission her boyfriend calls her 'she' and she introduces you to her clutch at the end of the game. I really don't think it's the voicing acting this time. It's a case of not being engaged; not paying attention; and not playing much past the arrival on the Nexus. There is no other explanation.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 15:44:06 GMT
In other words a bunch of Krogan whose clans were destroyed by a more dominant force got chased off Tuchanka and ran all the way to another Galaxy to start over. And it is true Wrexs war asset or codex entry. The Nakmor and Jorgal destroyed or absorbed. Nakmor ambassador was in Wrexs camp during Grunts loyalty mission negotiating, Jorgal scouts spotted the first reaper scouts at the shroud. The milkybway Krogan were even more organised in that respect hierarchy, rites, you name it. These guys seem like they're half arsing it. And If you want smart Krogan Warlord O'keer is your Krogan. Okeer's amoral (evil?) intelligence isn't the only intelligence we should see among the krogan. Clan Nakmor is proving that the image of krogan that the galaxy has isn't solely a matter of genes. Environment, both the genophage inspired despair and the rise of patriarchal clans, is as much to blame. They are trying a "new way", likely more in line with the pre-Nuclear krogan, based upon what Bakara and Wrex have told us. If the krogan weren't capable of being a society that isn't largely aggressive and brutish , they'd have never achieved nuclear physics. They'd have never been capable of waging an interstellar war against the Council and Turian Empire. This took more than numbers; it also takes intelligence and cunning. In MEA, you hear the friction between the krogan who have already embraced the new ideas, and those who are simply going along with the Warlord. As Wrex acknowledged, the krogan aren't going to change easily or overnight. This is why the most progressive krogan we see are the young ones, who aren't as set in the typical post-genophage malaise. They've truly embraced the Initiative as a fresh start.* Older krogan are understandably skeptical. * I begin to think that reading the novel really helped me appreciate the game in a broader way. While many think that the main plot of MEA is "stop the Archon" (and therefore think the sidequests distract from the plot) , I view it as clearly two-part: settle Heleus first, and stop the Archon of necessity. I also found the overwhelming buy-in of the AI pioneers, as portrayed in the novel, reflected in all of the assorted NPCs we meet. They still want to believe, or have had their hopes crushed, depending upon their circumstances. Even the worst of the worst are still happy, in a subdued way, to finally see a Pathfinder. They realize that maybe all hope isn't lost, after all. Clan Nakmor was no different. Maybe they're more grumpy, and less vocal, with their buy-in; but Morda brought them to Heleus because she wanted to see the krogan be viewed and treated in a fresh way, both by others and amongst themselves. In her view, the krogan were headed for more manipulation, prejudice, and likely extinction, in the Milky Way. She shared this view with Wrex. The two simply chose two separate paths to address it. Bringing this tangent fully back on topic, I think they did a great job of showing this conflict and growth within Clan Nakmor. The only failing was likely the way they portrayed a Morda herself, in game. She seemed a brute. Without the context of the novel, and really meditating upon why Jorgal Strux thought she was weak, it's easy to see her as just another, untrustworthy krogan bully. Okeer is exactly what every Krogan scientist is as they are presented only difference us he's exceptiobal. Even the run aways are trying to look to what hes done in a sidequest in new tuchanka. Look to the Krogan scientist in urdnot camp in ME2 to get idea. And again listen to the Ambassador of clan Nakmor himself To Paraphrase: I killed my way to the top. As far as pre nuclear society we've seen the cities of the ancients. Full of Galdiatorial Arenas and maw hammers, all those statues of Krogan male gladiators? Must have been for show right? And if we're basing this on milky way society females dont even stay in the same camps as males and have their own clan structures. They rarely ever leave tuchanka And that only ties us even more closely to Urdnot destroying nakmor and forcing the dissentors to flee tuchanka. I agree though we've side tracked. Drack good. Andromeda Krogan weak. *Clinks Ryncol*
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 11, 2017 15:50:45 GMT
Okeer's amoral (evil?) intelligence isn't the only intelligence we should see among the krogan. Clan Nakmor is proving that the image of krogan that the galaxy has isn't solely a matter of genes. Environment, both the genophage inspired despair and the rise of patriarchal clans, is as much to blame. They are trying a "new way", likely more in line with the pre-Nuclear krogan, based upon what Bakara and Wrex have told us. If the krogan weren't capable of being a society that isn't largely aggressive and brutish , they'd have never achieved nuclear physics. They'd have never been capable of waging an interstellar war against the Council and Turian Empire. This took more than numbers; it also takes intelligence and cunning. In MEA, you hear the friction between the krogan who have already embraced the new ideas, and those who are simply going along with the Warlord. As Wrex acknowledged, the krogan aren't going to change easily or overnight. This is why the most progressive krogan we see are the young ones, who aren't as set in the typical post-genophage malaise. They've truly embraced the Initiative as a fresh start.* Older krogan are understandably skeptical. * I begin to think that reading the novel really helped me appreciate the game in a broader way. While many think that the main plot of MEA is "stop the Archon" (and therefore think the sidequests distract from the plot) , I view it as clearly two-part: settle Heleus first, and stop the Archon of necessity. I also found the overwhelming buy-in of the AI pioneers, as portrayed in the novel, reflected in all of the assorted NPCs we meet. They still want to believe, or have had their hopes crushed, depending upon their circumstances. Even the worst of the worst are still happy, in a subdued way, to finally see a Pathfinder. They realize that maybe all hope isn't lost, after all. Clan Nakmor was no different. Maybe they're more grumpy, and less vocal, with their buy-in; but Morda brought them to Heleus because she wanted to see the krogan be viewed and treated in a fresh way, both by others and amongst themselves. In her view, the krogan were headed for more manipulation, prejudice, and likely extinction, in the Milky Way. She shared this view with Wrex. The two simply chose two separate paths to address it. Bringing this tangent fully back on topic, I think they did a great job of showing this conflict and growth within Clan Nakmor. The only failing was likely the way they portrayed a Morda herself, in game. She seemed a brute. Without the context of the novel, and really meditating upon why Jorgal Strux thought she was weak, it's easy to see her as just another, untrustworthy krogan bully. Okeer is exactly what every Krogan scientist is as they are presented only difference us he's exceptiobal. Even the run aways are trying to look to what hes done in a sidequest in new tuchanka. Look to the Krogan scientist in urdnot camp in ME2 to get idea. And again lusten to the Amvassadir if clan Nakmir himself To Paraphrase: I killed my way to the top. As far as pre nuclear society we've seen the cities of the ancients. Full of Galdiatorial Arenas and maw hamners, all those statues of Krogan male gladiators? Must have been for show right? And if we're basing this on milky way society females dont even stay int the same camps as males and have their own clan structures. They rarely ever leave tuchank And that only ties us even more clisely to Urdnot destroying nakmor and forcing the dissentors to flee tuchanka. I agree though we've side tracked. Drack good. Andromeda Krogan weak. *Clinks Ryncol* Yeah, I think it pretty much comes down to "Like and embrace MEA's krogan," or "Dislike and ignore" the new approach. Fortunately, we can discuss it for a bit, and then agree to ryncol. *Clinks Ryncol*
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Post by jf8350143 on Apr 11, 2017 16:11:07 GMT
Now I feel like someone has gone to the " How dare a race show something different from their typical stereotypes?" situation.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 11, 2017 16:13:06 GMT
My only question is why are the Krogan so small in MEA? Could they only bring short stubby Krogan that fit into the cryo pods?
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 11, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
My only question is why are the Krogan so small in MEA? Could they only bring short stubby Krogan that fit into the cryo pods? It's the stupid rigs. In some scenes, like the bar fight, Drack is huge. His written measurements are huge. Jaal has the same problem. Sometimes he's huge, only to immediately shrink post-conversation. It's annoying.
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Post by Exile Isan on Apr 11, 2017 16:24:34 GMT
I'm not trying to be an ass; but if you don't even know what's happening on screen (for instance the name and gender of the speaker), how can you form such strong opinions? It makes it seem as if you were asleep at the wheel. If you'd have played for more than a couple of hours, Kesh would've become well known to you. She's a pretty major NPC. Yeah, I don't get it at all. The minute Kesh opened her mouth I knew she was a female krogan.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 16:24:58 GMT
Okeer's amoral (evil?) intelligence isn't the only intelligence we should see among the krogan. Clan Nakmor is proving that the image of krogan that the galaxy has isn't solely a matter of genes. Environment, both the genophage inspired despair and the rise of patriarchal clans, is as much to blame. They are trying a "new way", likely more in line with the pre-Nuclear krogan, based upon what Bakara and Wrex have told us. If the krogan weren't capable of being a society that isn't largely aggressive and brutish , they'd have never achieved nuclear physics. They'd have never been capable of waging an interstellar war against the Council and Turian Empire. This took more than numbers; it also takes intelligence and cunning. In MEA, you hear the friction between the krogan who have already embraced the new ideas, and those who are simply going along with the Warlord. As Wrex acknowledged, the krogan aren't going to change easily or overnight. This is why the most progressive krogan we see are the young ones, who aren't as set in the typical post-genophage malaise. They've truly embraced the Initiative as a fresh start.* Older krogan are understandably skeptical. * I begin to think that reading the novel really helped me appreciate the game in a broader way. While many think that the main plot of MEA is "stop the Archon" (and therefore think the sidequests distract from the plot) , I view it as clearly two-part: settle Heleus first, and stop the Archon of necessity. I also found the overwhelming buy-in of the AI pioneers, as portrayed in the novel, reflected in all of the assorted NPCs we meet. They still want to believe, or have had their hopes crushed, depending upon their circumstances. Even the worst of the worst are still happy, in a subdued way, to finally see a Pathfinder. They realize that maybe all hope isn't lost, after all. Clan Nakmor was no different. Maybe they're more grumpy, and less vocal, with their buy-in; but Morda brought them to Heleus because she wanted to see the krogan be viewed and treated in a fresh way, both by others and amongst themselves. In her view, the krogan were headed for more manipulation, prejudice, and likely extinction, in the Milky Way. She shared this view with Wrex. The two simply chose two separate paths to address it. Bringing this tangent fully back on topic, I think they did a great job of showing this conflict and growth within Clan Nakmor. The only failing was likely the way they portrayed a Morda herself, in game. She seemed a brute. Without the context of the novel, and really meditating upon why Jorgal Strux thought she was weak, it's easy to see her as just another, untrustworthy krogan bully. Okeer is exactly what every Krogan scientist is as they are presented only difference us he's exceptiobal. Even the run aways are trying to look to what hes done in a sidequest in new tuchanka. Look to the Krogan scientist in urdnot camp in ME2 to get idea. And again listen to the Ambassador of clan Nakmor himself To Paraphrase: I killed my way to the top. As far as pre nuclear society we've seen the cities of the ancients. Full of Galdiatorial Arenas and maw hammers, all those statues of Krogan male gladiators? Must have been for show right? And if we're basing this on milky way society females dont even stay in the same camps as males and have their own clan structures. They rarely ever leave tuchanka And that only ties us even more closely to Urdnot destroying nakmor and forcing the dissentors to flee tuchanka. I agree though we've side tracked. Drack good. Andromeda Krogan weak. *Clinks Ryncol* Tbf, it's possible to be intelligent and as powerful as Krogan were previously shown to be without developing an interest in eugenics... I've been around a few heated academic debates, I wonder just how many Krogan researchers took a hammer to the quad/ faceplate over an equation. As for the rest of the Andromedan Krogan: I feel like most of them have undergone a pretty huge cultural shift so as to minimise the chances of repeating their past mistakes - even if they did almost erupt into clan warfare/ Krogan rebellions 2.0. That doesn't particularly make them weak by any means, just different. In terms of strength, it's a lateral move.
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Post by guanxi on Apr 11, 2017 16:38:10 GMT
I took Drack with me most of the time but I've evidently missed a whole lot of character nuance along the way which is something to look forward to in repeat playthroughs. It's nice to know there's more to his character even if you have to go looking for it.
I've played the original trilogy inside out so Wrex comparisons are perhaps unfair at this point. A large part of what made Wrex one of my favorite characters was Steve Barrs performances and dead pan / dry wit delivery. Drack's VO isn't as warm or likeable for me from what I've heard and I'm struggling to remember any of his lines but maybe this will improve in time.
I was hoping for some interesting nomad conversations but I suppose the rest of the squad aren't exactly delivering the banter. Particularly Vetra who leaves me cold.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 16:40:58 GMT
I took Drack with me most of the time but I've evidently missed a whole lot of character nuance along the way which is something to look forward to in repeat playthroughs. It's nice to know there's more to his character even if you have to go looking for it. I've played the original trilogy inside out so Wrex comparisons are perhaps unfair at this point. A large part of what made Wrex one of my favorite characters was Steve Barrs performances and dead pan / dry wit delivery. Drack's VO isn't as warm or likeable for me from what I've heard and I'm struggling to remember any of his lines but maybe this will improve in time. I was hoping for some interesting nomad conversations but I suppose the rest of the squad aren't exactly delivering the banter. Particularly Vetra who leaves me cold. Jaal and Drack have a lot of good dialogue cora and drack is even better. Hes a good Krogan.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 16:51:26 GMT
I took Drack with me most of the time but I've evidently missed a whole lot of character nuance along the way which is something to look forward to in repeat playthroughs. It's nice to know there's more to his character even if you have to go looking for it. I've played the original trilogy inside out so Wrex comparisons are perhaps unfair at this point. A large part of what made Wrex one of my favorite characters was Steve Barrs performances and dead pan / dry wit delivery. Drack's VO isn't as warm or likeable for me from what I've heard and I'm struggling to remember any of his lines but maybe this will improve in time. I was hoping for some interesting nomad conversations but I suppose the rest of the squad aren't exactly delivering the banter. Particularly Vetra who leaves me cold. Yeah just give Drack a chance, here's a really interesting character. There's a lot of content in this game, so it's easy to miss bits. Bear in mind that you had three games to get to know Wrex. I can see what you mean about his voice actor, but I actually really like it. His delivery reminds me of Mike from Breaking Bad (which really fits his character).
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 11, 2017 17:00:39 GMT
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 11, 2017 17:07:34 GMT
Wrex was fine in ME1, it's a shame he didn't appear in the subsequent games to develop his character further. Although I suspect if they did, that by the time ME3 came around he'd be a bit of a caricature and changed completely from the interesting biter cynic he was, especially in the citadel dlc. Shame we never find out. I call that character development. Sure, Wrex is a bitter cynic in the first game because he was kicked out as leader by his tribe and betrayed by his own father, whom he had to kill. He didn't see a future for the Krogan. After Virmire, he gets a new push to do something about his people and between ME1 and 2 he succeeds to rally some of the clans and becomes their defacto leader. At this point, he has to be more than just the bitter cynic from ME1, he needs to project a different attitude and he gets things to turn around for the krogan, so there is reason for him to be different. As for Citadel, well, the genophage was just cured and his race was saved (or at the very least, he believes that at that point). Is it surprising that he is happy and cheerful and has a completely different attitude as in ME1? IMO Wrex is one of the most consistently well written characters in the old trilogy. He is a fairly complex character with a lot of development, he is relatable, even likable but not an ass-kisser. And he has a good balance between cheesy one-liners and some more thoughtful dialogue. Add to that the fact that he is killable which will change a whole lot of parameters for the krogan arc and it doesn't get much better than Wrex (certainly not in Andromeda).
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YES! Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed how emasculated and not krogan these pyjaks in Andromeda are. Only a handful outside of Drack are in line.
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Post by peabuddie on Apr 11, 2017 17:16:07 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans. Agreed. I know it's somewhat minor but the first Krogan we meet, Kosh was it, just threw me for a loop. I was instantly pulled out of the game because his higher pitched voice neither suited his appearance nor what we've seen represent Krogan before. The character isn't inherently bad, however I just can't take him serious. In three iterations, the Krogan have always had a deep monotone voice. It just felt like that could have been anyone else... not a Krogan. Him? Kesh is a female Krogan. Sooo...I don't get your point.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 11, 2017 17:26:02 GMT
Drack was good, the rest of the Krogan were far too "human". That's the case with all of the Milky way races.
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Post by xeternalxdreams on Apr 11, 2017 17:44:16 GMT
I took Drack with me most of the time but I've evidently missed a whole lot of character nuance along the way which is something to look forward to in repeat playthroughs. It's nice to know there's more to his character even if you have to go looking for it. I've played the original trilogy inside out so Wrex comparisons are perhaps unfair at this point. A large part of what made Wrex one of my favorite characters was Steve Barrs performances and dead pan / dry wit delivery. Drack's VO isn't as warm or likeable for me from what I've heard and I'm struggling to remember any of his lines but maybe this will improve in time. I was hoping for some interesting nomad conversations but I suppose the rest of the squad aren't exactly delivering the banter. Particularly Vetra who leaves me cold. Jaal and Drack have a lot of good dialogue cora and drack is even better. Hes a good Krogan. I took Cora and Drack everywhere I could. I loved Wrex in MET; especially his overall development in ME3. I feel like Drack could be on par (if not better) if he continues to be developed even if he isn't a future squad mate.
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Post by timebean on Apr 11, 2017 17:51:17 GMT
Jaal and Drack have a lot of good dialogue cora and drack is even better. Hes a good Krogan. I took Cora and Drack everywhere I could. I loved Wrex in MET; especially his overall development in ME3. I feel like Drack could be on par (if not better) if he continues to be developed even if he isn't a future squad mate. But sadly, they will most likely kill him off in the next game for maximum angst.
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Post by xeternalxdreams on Apr 11, 2017 17:55:02 GMT
I took Cora and Drack everywhere I could. I loved Wrex in MET; especially his overall development in ME3. I feel like Drack could be on par (if not better) if he continues to be developed even if he isn't a future squad mate. But sadly, they will most likely kill him off in the next game for maximum angst. I could see them going there. As long as he doesn't go quietly, and I can go Krogan on those who had a hand in it. I'm sure Drack would be happy to know that.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 11, 2017 20:28:49 GMT
Drack was good, the rest of the Krogan were far too "human". That's the case with all of the Milky way races. Ya, I 100% agree. Compare the feeling of ME1's characters to ME:A's and it just doesn't make sense, and the story takes place all of 2-4 years of "time" apart. Amazing how the Turians don't hate the humans anymore... we're all BFF's. No more Racism, or hardcore military based hate for a war we just fought with them. Asari, have just turned into blue human women. Completely lost their space vixen mystique. (I blame that on the SJW crowd) Krogan, aka Space Sharks, have been almost completely defanged. Salarians, probably the closest to the ME1 vibe.
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