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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 6:48:47 GMT
These ones.
In particular this one.
And if you must have soft spoken Krogan.
This one.
As far as Krogan in Andromeda go well, keep Drack.
I'd really like to see Bio give us a few Shaman though, some psychotic brutes or even delve into some bloodrage and just display a few corpses. The Krogan are finally free and adapting to the Genophage, they should be working on test firing a giant gun on nearby asteroids and incoming kett ships.
Give them a little Grunt again BioWare (Pun intended) the thing that made Krogan great was that they understood their own legend and that they had to live up to it or they were completely useless, they weren't real Krogan. They're heading in that direction and I hope that in the next game (which I think will probably happen.) they make them a little more vicious and ambitious as a species, again.
Zip, out.
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Post by PillarBiter on Apr 11, 2017 6:56:00 GMT
I agree on one thing: Where's my biotic krogan dammit?! If they expand the character roster in the next game, finally give us a strong biotic adept krogan. It could lead to so many interesting conversations. Oh. and a vanguard quarian. Because I HAVE to see that.
That said: Drack is like a mix of wrex and zaeed. Loving him.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 11, 2017 6:56:20 GMT
Drack was good, the rest of the Krogan were far too "human". They lost their flair. And I think they were shrunk, I didn't realize clan Nakmor were all midgets.
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Post by guanxi on Apr 11, 2017 8:10:57 GMT
You forgot the dude obsessed with fishing on the Presidium and the "stupid machine... give me the access codes or I'll turn your virtual ass into actual dust" krogan and Wrex's "he's right y'now... they're actually going to let me eat you". There weren't any memorable stand out moments like these with Krogan npcs in this game. Many of them don't even sound like real Krogan.
Drack is a poor man's Wrex... lacking personality and charm. Spent 40 hours with him and I couldn't describe him any better now than before I played the game - he's just a old grizzled macho-man who enjoys killing things. There's nothing going on below the surface, you could say that about most characters in the game though, really.
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Post by spleen999 on Apr 11, 2017 8:21:39 GMT
Morda is far more impressive in 'Nexus Uprising' than in the game! She seems a bit underwhelming but was instrumental in putting down the uprising.
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Post by Serza on Apr 11, 2017 8:46:19 GMT
I agree on one thing: Where's my biotic krogan dammit?! If they expand the character roster in the next game, finally give us a strong biotic adept krogan. It could lead to so many interesting conversations. Oh. and a vanguard quarian. Because I HAVE to see that. That said: Drack is like a mix of wrex and zaeed. Loving him. Quarian Vanguard? Please do read the lore again. Exposure to ANYTHING is much more risky for the Quarians. If you expose one to Eezo, which causes OTHER races to get brain tumors, guess what might happen. Oh, yeah. Quarian biotics won't happen until a few centuries have passed, and even then, it's gonna be in the Milky Way, not the ones that came to Andromeda. Disrespectful bosh'tet!
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Post by PillarBiter on Apr 11, 2017 8:55:57 GMT
I agree on one thing: Where's my biotic krogan dammit?! If they expand the character roster in the next game, finally give us a strong biotic adept krogan. It could lead to so many interesting conversations. Oh. and a vanguard quarian. Because I HAVE to see that. That said: Drack is like a mix of wrex and zaeed. Loving him. Quarian Vanguard? Please do read the lore again. Exposure to ANYTHING is much more risky for the Quarians. If you expose one to Eezo, which causes OTHER races to get brain tumors, guess what might happen. Oh, yeah. Quarian biotics won't happen until a few centuries have passed, and even then, it's gonna be in the Milky Way, not the ones that came to Andromeda. Disrespectful bosh'tet! That's exactly what I mean: 2 charges, one nova and he throws up in the helmet Basically, he could be the overpowered character that dies at the start of the game
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Post by Serza on Apr 11, 2017 8:59:56 GMT
...or the poor sod that died as a result of Eezo exposure. Quarian biotics won't be happening unless we're jumping to 29th century Milky Way, where sure, they might be a real sight.
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Post by guanxi on Apr 11, 2017 9:00:50 GMT
Favorite Wrex Moment:-Yeah but i'm old and I worry. Even though my favorite quarian's all grown up killing reapers! -You're like the crazy, headbutting uncle I never had.
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Post by jf8350143 on Apr 11, 2017 9:05:18 GMT
Drack is nothing like Wrex except they are both Korgan and having the basic Korgan style(enjoy fighting and etc).
The talking scene in the med bay after you finish his loyalty quest is one of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 9:08:47 GMT
Drack is a poor man's Wrex... lacking personality and charm. Spent 40 hours with him and I couldn't describe him any better now than before I played the game - he's just a old grizzled macho-man who enjoys killing things. There's nothing going on below the surface, you could say that about most characters in the game though, really. What? Did you pay any attention to Drack's dialogue/ emails/ subplots like at all? Drack is easily the most nuanced and interesting Krogan we've ever seen. I never thought I'd prefer him over Wrex but I was very wrong.
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Post by guanxi on Apr 11, 2017 9:15:26 GMT
Drack is a poor man's Wrex... lacking personality and charm. Spent 40 hours with him and I couldn't describe him any better now than before I played the game - he's just a old grizzled macho-man who enjoys killing things. There's nothing going on below the surface, you could say that about most characters in the game though, really. What? Did you pay any attention to Drack's dialogue/ emails/ subplots like at all? Drack is easily the most nuanced and interesting Krogan we've ever seen. I never thought I'd prefer him over Wrex but I was very wrong. Can you recall a single line of dialogue or particularly memorable interaction with Drack outside of combat? The only thing that sticks in my mind is his trailer moment in his loyalty mission and the fact he cares for his daughter, and he's pretty injured and in a lot of pain. I saw him cooking something once but it never went anywhere.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 11, 2017 9:15:50 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 11, 2017 9:17:51 GMT
Drack is a poor man's Wrex... lacking personality and charm. Spent 40 hours with him and I couldn't describe him any better now than before I played the game - he's just a old grizzled macho-man who enjoys killing things. There's nothing going on below the surface, you could say that about most characters in the game though, really. What? Did you pay any attention to Drack's dialogue/ emails/ subplots like at all? Drack is easily the most nuanced and interesting Krogan we've ever seen. I never thought I'd prefer him over Wrex but I was very wrong.
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Post by Cassandra on Apr 11, 2017 9:31:28 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans. Agreed. I know it's somewhat minor but the first Krogan we meet, Kosh was it, just threw me for a loop. I was instantly pulled out of the game because his higher pitched voice neither suited his appearance nor what we've seen represent Krogan before. The character isn't inherently bad, however I just can't take him serious. In three iterations, the Krogan have always had a deep monotone voice. It just felt like that could have been anyone else... not a Krogan.Ignore this. Just the rambling of someone clearly "asleep at the wheel" as so equivalent put. Shouldn't be jumping the gun like that.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 9:55:13 GMT
What? Did you pay any attention to Drack's dialogue/ emails/ subplots like at all? Drack is easily the most nuanced and interesting Krogan we've ever seen. I never thought I'd prefer him over Wrex but I was very wrong. Can you recall a single line of dialogue or particularly memorable interaction with Drack outside of combat? The only thing that sticks in my mind is his trailer moment in his loyalty mission and the fact he cares for his daughter, and he's pretty injured and in a lot of pain. I saw him cooking something once but it never went anywhere. Yes, several. His check-up with Lexi in which he discusses his own mortality and reasons for living. A common theme of Drack's is that he is a living paradox. Because of his age, he is both a relic of archaic Krogan society and a sign that the Krogan can move forward and make a fresh start in Andromeda. He's torn because he can only see himself for his past and believes that there's no place for Krogan like him in Andromeda. He believes that he should have died long ago, and often makes rash decisions in combat because he cares so little for his own life - he's almost suicidal. At the same time, he wants to move forward and leave that part of him behind. Ryder helps him find his own purpose in this new galaxy. On top of that, a lot of his personality can be seen by interacting with him aboard the Tempest (where you learn about his mother, and Kesh's grandmother), and through party banter in the Nomad.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 10:08:19 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans. Unless talking about the Salarians. Not that they as a species had much character to begin with.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 10:09:05 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans. Unless talking about the Salarians. Not that they as a species had much character to begin with. Even the SPECTRE title seems to take a bit of a hit in this.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 11, 2017 10:30:45 GMT
Wrex was fine in ME1, it's a shame he didn't appear in the subsequent games to develop his character further. Although I suspect if they did, that by the time ME3 came around he'd be a bit of a caricature and changed completely from the interesting biter cynic he was, especially in the citadel dlc.
Shame we never find out.
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Post by jf8350143 on Apr 11, 2017 10:36:36 GMT
I don't know which review said this, I believe it was zero ponctuation, but it was spot on: races lost any shred of personality in Andromeda. Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Asari... you can change one for the other and it won't make a difference. Or you could make a game only with humans. Agreed. I know it's somewhat minor but the first Krogan we meet, Kosh was it, just threw me for a loop. I was instantly pulled out of the game because his higher pitched voice neither suited his appearance nor what we've seen represent Krogan before. The character isn't inherently bad, however I just can't take him serious. In three iterations, the Krogan have always had a deep monotone voice. It just felt like that could have been anyone else... not a Krogan. Kesh was a female, so why can't she has a more high pitched voice?
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Post by Cassandra on Apr 11, 2017 10:47:26 GMT
Agreed. I know it's somewhat minor but the first Krogan we meet, Kosh was it, just threw me for a loop. I was instantly pulled out of the game because his higher pitched voice neither suited his appearance nor what we've seen represent Krogan before. The character isn't inherently bad, however I just can't take him serious. In three iterations, the Krogan have always had a deep monotone voice. It just felt like that could have been anyone else... not a Krogan. Kesh was a female, so why can't she has a more high pitched voice? Was she? Swore she wasn't. I dunno. It just didn't gel with me like Eve did. Perhaps it's just the voice acting being a bit... eh, at times.
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Post by ymirr on Apr 11, 2017 11:00:21 GMT
Always found it odd in scifi, that when there were alien species they could hardly have any personality variations among themselves. I don't know... I don't find it surprising with a selection process as to who goes to Andromeda, that we don't see a large number of warmongering Krogans.
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Post by maxon on Apr 11, 2017 11:41:24 GMT
I miss the Ha Ha HAAAAAA in MP. Eve was an excellent creation.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 11, 2017 11:52:19 GMT
Drack was good, the rest of the Krogan were far too "human". They lost their flair. And I think they were shrunk, I didn't realize clan Nakmor were all midgets. The only time I rember drack being bigger in is the bar fight. Outside that Scott is taller than Drack.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 12:21:08 GMT
Clan Nakmor? More like clan Cuckmor amiright?
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