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Post by goishen on Apr 12, 2017 13:18:44 GMT
The writing in Mass Effect Andromeda is pretty much professionalized fan fiction. I was at the shop about an hour ago with an N7 tee. The cashier says this: Cashier: Did you see what they've done to mass effect in the new one? Me: Dont.... Cashier: My face, is, frozen! Because they spent $40 million making it! Its at the point its a running joke IRL as well, now. I'm just about at the point where I've decided to put away my childish things. Because That's all ME is. Already taken down all of my posters.
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Post by Warrick on Apr 12, 2017 13:23:01 GMT
Shouldn't this be in the review thread? Is there a fans review thread? I don't think this guy has much to say about the game but boy does he enjoy reviewing people.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 13:24:26 GMT
And here I just put my Nomad model next to my Normandy SR1.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 12, 2017 13:26:34 GMT
I wear a tactical ballcap that has velcro patches in several places to display a badge, name, group, whatever. I put the N7 patch from the ME3 Collector's Edition on it.
Yesterday, a security guard working here at Screen Gems said, "man, have you played the new one?"
I looked at him, and considered things for a moment. He is in his early twenties, and it seems the younger crowd has been liking this game a little better than mine... But, I am what I am, so I said "I watched the reaction on a fan forum and decided not to waste my money on that piece of shit."
He smiled, and told me the SP combat was a blast, the writing was goofy and unrealistically immature even for the age of the protagonist, and that the MP was a broken dumpsterfire.
Lol.
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Post by goishen on Apr 12, 2017 13:28:40 GMT
How you gonna compress the story beats of 3 games to stack against just one? C'mon zip. Don't let the genophage get you like this. As for the gender issue thing, am I the only shmuck around here that has yet to find this asari? Where the hell is s/he? Right after you discover the Angaran diplomat and go back to the Nexus. Whoever'll tell you that the cultural exchange center is where they are. Go there. It's not difficult.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 12, 2017 13:29:43 GMT
I wear a tactical ballcap that has velcro patches in several places to display a badge, name, group, whatever. I put the N7 patch from the ME3 Collector's Edition on it. Yesterday, a security guard working here at Screen Gems said, "man, have you played the new one?" I looked at him, and considered things for a moment. He is in his early twenties, and it seems the younger crowd has been liking this game a little better than mine... But, I am what I am, so I said "I watched the reaction on a fan forum and decided not to waste my money on that piece of shit." He smiled, and told me the SP combat was a blast, the writing was goofy and unrealistically immature even for the age of the protagonist, and that the MP was a broken dumpsterfire. Lol. Clearly you run with important people as well as a hip crowd.
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Post by Bergmaniac on Apr 12, 2017 13:30:13 GMT
I see people comparing andromeda to citadel, I don't think comparison is valid. They are only superficially similar, like how dolphin are superficially similar to fish. 1. Citadel plays on character bits developed over the course of 3 games, it earned its right to be cheesy and stupid, because it did all the stuff you needed everywhere else before. 2. It's a side content released months after the main game. It has no bearing on anything bigger, so it can taken a different tone. The stake is considerably smaller too, since the only thing of immediate consequence only really affect you and maybe a couple NPC, so it gets to be silly. All the comparison I see people make between citadel and andromeda are all made out of context Yeah, plus the jokes in the Citadel DLC were actually really funny for the most part unlike the cringe-worthy stuff in Andromeda.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 13:40:45 GMT
I wear a tactical ballcap that has velcro patches in several places to display a badge, name, group, whatever. I put the N7 patch from the ME3 Collector's Edition on it. Yesterday, a security guard working here at Screen Gems said, "man, have you played the new one?" I looked at him, and considered things for a moment. He is in his early twenties, and it seems the younger crowd has been liking this game a little better than mine... But, I am what I am, so I said "I watched the reaction on a fan forum and decided not to waste my money on that piece of shit." He smiled, and told me the SP combat was a blast, the writing was goofy and unrealistically immature even for the age of the protagonist, and that the MP was a broken dumpsterfire. Lol. That reminds me that I need to get an Ai t-shirt.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 12, 2017 13:41:14 GMT
Clearly you run with important people as well as a hip crowd. Lol. We mostly do think we're important. We're not, but we do keep the world entertained, and thus some of us feel special. Again, we're not. Hip... Maybe. You get all kinds on set.
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Post by goishen on Apr 12, 2017 13:44:14 GMT
I see people comparing andromeda to citadel, I don't think comparison is valid. They are only superficially similar, like how dolphin are superficially similar to fish. 1. Citadel plays on character bits developed over the course of 3 games, it earned its right to be cheesy and stupid, because it did all the stuff you needed everywhere else before. 2. It's a side content released months after the main game. It has no bearing on anything bigger, so it can taken a different tone. The stake is considerably smaller too, since the only thing of immediate consequence only really affect you and maybe a couple NPC, so it gets to be silly. All the comparison I see people make between citadel and andromeda are all made out of context Yeah, plus the jokes in the Citadel DLC were actually really funny for the most part unlike the cringe-worthy stuff in Andromeda. True 'dat.
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Post by timebean on Apr 12, 2017 13:59:20 GMT
I did enjoy the game to a degree, but overall I agree. I don't feel any inclination to play the game again after one playthrough. I can't think of any single moment that can be described as amazing or particularly memorable. The story is generic and forgettable, the Aliens are generic and forgettable, the enemies and gameplay are generic and forgettable (much of it seems ripped directly from Destiny). The lore. The fucking lore. They might as well just take it out back and shoot it in the head to finally put it out of its misery. They seem to think that coherent lore is a detriment to telling a good story or something. I'd much rather see Bioware take the Obsidian approach to their story telling, with deep and interesting lore, potential conflicts, etc. Think FO:NV, KOTOR 2, PoE, etc. Can't really say it better than this. Although I think fallout is boring as hell, personally. But the rest? Yep...feel ya.
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Post by pdusen on Apr 12, 2017 14:04:06 GMT
I'm pretty sure the game I played had a story. So.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 14:40:16 GMT
I'm pretty sure the game I played had a story. So. Listen to yourself, you've been exhalted.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 12, 2017 14:47:24 GMT
I'm pretty sure the game I played had a story. So. Listen to yourself, you've been exhalted. So now we're indoctrinated and exalted? No matter, keep ravaging my brain BioWare!
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 12, 2017 15:02:17 GMT
This is the problem right here. People are comparing an entire trilogy and everything that comes with it, the ties to the characters, places and situations, to one game where pretty much everything still has to be set up. Andromeda is 60-100hrs of game time, longer than the entire OT, so this shouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately, it only has enough content for about 20hrs. This isn't very fair. The entire OT is only 60-100 hours long if you only do the critical path and maybe some loyalty missions, but nothing else, at all. Not even investigative questions. In ME1 alone you could easily spend 50-60 hours, especially on your first try of the game and if you are the kind of gamer that likes to do everything, or a lot. But ME1 ultimately boils down to only 20 hours of content too, maybe even less if you just do the critical path and talk to your squad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 15:24:11 GMT
I couldn't finish the game. It was so repetitive and boring. I romanced Jaal and realized that was probably as in depth as the game would get. That's not worth venturing to all these planets and scanning shit. The main quest seems utterly short. I can't even finish it because I don't want to face the fact that this game is so empty and short. TW3 has spoiled us with nuanced, cinematic rabbit holes. My BIGGEST complaint (aside from the abysmal CC) is the lack of new aliens. ME1-3 introduced us to dozens. Andromeda has introduced us to 1 good guy - Angaran. And 2 bad guys - Remnant (sort of aliens) and Kett. And you do not walk around and interact with slews of Remnant or Kett npc's. Where the hell are all the aliens? You are comparing 1 Cluster in Andromeda with the entire Milky Way. If Andromeda is anything like the Milky Way, then there are far more clusters than there are sentient races, it's statistically speaking, weird we came across any aliens at all. Cool. It still sucked.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 15:29:47 GMT
Andromeda is 60-100hrs of game time, longer than the entire OT, so this shouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately, it only has enough content for about 20hrs. This isn't very fair. The entire OT is only 60-100 hours long if you only do the critical path and maybe some loyalty missions, but nothing else, at all. Not even investigative questions. In ME1 alone you could easily spend 50-60 hours, especially on your first try of the game and if you are the kind of gamer that likes to do everything, or a lot. But ME1 ultimately boils down to only 20 hours of content too, maybe even less if you just do the critical path and talk to your squad. Actually, ME1 is even shorter than that because there's only 2 companion missions and they're considerably brief.
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Post by rasande on Apr 12, 2017 15:42:02 GMT
This... pretty much applies to every recent Bioware game ever. OT included where Paragon Shep always saves the day, no matter how stupid it is. I mean, especially ME2 where you're Arnold Schwartzenegger PhD. Behavioral Psychologist on the SSR Daddy Issues with the minor plot that gets thrown away come ME3. I mean dude, the Citadel DLC... Dunno why this dawned on you come Andromeda that's pretty much just trying to hit the same marks. Those things were fun because they all had something to push them forward, a reason why you were supposed to give a shit. Can you tell me why I'm supposed to follow Angaran foot prints with a scanner for 3 minutes to find a datapad telling me the location of an object to scan though? Or why I have to walk all the way back to the Nomad again after doing that? No. Because that doesn't make sense. Weren't the side quests part of the obvious basket? I dunno, i never cared about the Reapers or whatever token RPG impending doom was presently looming over Shepard in the first place so that never made whatever i was doing more fun, i just enjoyed the gameplay mixed with a choose your own adventure deal. So can't really relate. If you don't care about setteling whatever planet you're on or the minor side story they have then you don't care, can't really tell you why you should. If you don't find it fun you don't find it fun, don't do it.
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Post by Sondergaard on Apr 12, 2017 16:39:58 GMT
Andromeda is 60-100hrs of game time, longer than the entire OT, so this shouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately, it only has enough content for about 20hrs. This isn't very fair. The entire OT is only 60-100 hours long if you only do the critical path and maybe some loyalty missions, but nothing else, at all. Not even investigative questions. In ME1 alone you could easily spend 50-60 hours, especially on your first try of the game and if you are the kind of gamer that likes to do everything, or a lot. But ME1 ultimately boils down to only 20 hours of content too, maybe even less if you just do the critical path and talk to your squad. Longest run I've ever done of ME1 was 22hrs, and that was being pretty completionist. Probably x2 for ME2 & 3, so maybe 100hrs for a full playthrough. Which is why I'm surprised everything seems so superficial in ME:A. I don't want 'grimdark' but nothing feels fleshed out, especially characters, despite all the promises. I still remember when I got Tali killed. I stared at the screen for a good few minutes afterwards, in shock. And she was a walking exposition dump in ME1 so really only had one game's development behind her (half of ME2 and half of ME3). I can't imagine feeling much if anything for the ME:A bunch. Of course, I know I don't have to as Mac helpfully pointed out that squad mates couldn't die a few months before release. Characters can banter as much as they want. It's background drivel. Meaningful conversations make characters, and they have to be well written and allow interaction from the player. Quality, not quantity. Mac promised both.
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Post by raikas on Apr 12, 2017 17:35:56 GMT
To those people the game is a flawless gem, because the game is catered to them. Go here, scan this, say that, have sex, make friends. Eh, I haven't seene many people calling this a flawless gem, regardless of which elements of the game they prefer. Frankly, I thought the character material was weaker in MEA than in the OT, so I don't buy that the rest of the game suffered because anyone was focusing on that. The whole game felt like it was trying to do too much and ended up either not getting really top result for any one element (or else overdoing things that were good - the planet travel animations are beautiful, but that they took up so much time ruined them). And that was true for almost every element in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:16:11 GMT
Less crafting. More aliens. Nuff said.
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Post by goishen on Apr 12, 2017 19:37:22 GMT
The lore. The fucking lore. They might as well just take it out back and shoot it in the head to finally put it out of its misery. C'mon boy. Time to put Ol' Yeller down.
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Post by heathenoxman on Apr 12, 2017 20:41:48 GMT
To those people the game is a flawless gem, because the game is catered to them. Go here, scan this, say that, have sex, make friends. Eh, I haven't seene many people calling this a flawless gem, regardless of which elements of the game they prefer. Frankly, I thought the character material was weaker in MEA than in the OT, so I don't buy that the rest of the game suffered because anyone was focusing on that. The whole game felt like it was trying to do too much and ended up either not getting really top result for any one element (or else overdoing things that were good - the planet travel animations are beautiful, but that they took up so much time ruined them). And that was true for almost every element in the game. Me neither. I thought MEA was "okay." I didn't love, and I certainly didn't think it was "flawless."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 22:40:05 GMT
I'll be honest: I'm glad I bought Andromeda for 25 bucks. Had a good trade in, and found it used within the first week. Lol.
25 bucks felt about right.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 13, 2017 0:05:23 GMT
This isn't very fair. The entire OT is only 60-100 hours long if you only do the critical path and maybe some loyalty missions, but nothing else, at all. Not even investigative questions. In ME1 alone you could easily spend 50-60 hours, especially on your first try of the game and if you are the kind of gamer that likes to do everything, or a lot. But ME1 ultimately boils down to only 20 hours of content too, maybe even less if you just do the critical path and talk to your squad. Actually, ME1 is even shorter than that because there's only 2 companion missions and they're considerably brief. Take the Mako out of Virmire and you suddenly realise how short that mission was. But man what a mission it was.
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