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Post by Arkhne on Apr 14, 2017 20:52:29 GMT
Mantis on an Infiltrator is more than Gold viable. And it is light enough that you can pair it with a Tech or Biotic combo character.
Sure, a level X CSMG might be lighter, but it's also a lot harder to get.
As to Graal vs Widow, well, Widow is just a better Mantis, and Graal is host-dependant, suffering from all kinds of Projectile BS, though on paper, it's quite nice.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Mantis/CSMG was equal, they are both great guns for different situations.
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I am a scrub. Without the dark lord, I would never have been able to solo Platinum, because I have no patience for soloing. 31 minutes, thank you scrub cannon! Between Reegar and Lancer? Admit it, you're OneWomanArmy in disguise... How did you know? And shame on you guys for talking badly about my precious Reegar 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️
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Post by docsteely on Apr 15, 2017 2:10:50 GMT
Between Reegar and Lancer? Admit it, you're OneWomanArmy in disguise... How did you know? And shame on you guys for talking badly about my precious Reegar 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️ My dear OWA, I am a wizard after all... How could I not know about our princess' love for coffee and the dark lord?
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 15, 2017 4:55:00 GMT
How did you know? And shame on you guys for talking badly about my precious Reegar 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️ My dear OWA, I am a wizard after all... How could I not know about our princess' love for coffee and the dark lord? Ahhhhh right right You're my favorite wizard ❤️❤️❤️
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 5:03:09 GMT
My dear OWA, I am a wizard after all... How could I not know about our princess' love for coffee and the dark lord? Ahhhhh right right You're my favorite wizard ❤️❤️❤️ I must admit my favourite wizard was/is bauzabauza. So many fond memories of google-translating whatever-the-fuck he was saying. Cracked me up though. (Still not sure if that was him or google-translate though.)
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 15, 2017 5:08:37 GMT
Ahhhhh right right You're my favorite wizard ❤️❤️❤️ I must admit my favourite wizard was/is bauzabauza. So many fond memories of google-translating whatever-the-fuck he was saying. Cracked me up though. (Still not sure if that was him or google-translate though.) Oh yeah, where is that guy? Haven't seen him around for a while. Doc is still my favorite though, a very special wizard ❤️ But Bauza is a sweetheart too ❤️😉
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 15, 2017 5:08:41 GMT
PPR vs. Venom? That's brutal, two of my top 5 favorite guns...
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PPR vs. Venom? That's brutal, two of my top 5 favorite guns... q5tyhj,pls.Venom is love,venom is life.
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Post by LoonySpectre on Apr 15, 2017 8:36:46 GMT
So, the results are in, from the most one-sided matches to the most even. Pairings with 3-0 or 0-3 score: M-25 Hornet vs Black Widow: 0-34 M-11 Wraith vs Geth Plasma SMG: 33-1 M-4 Shuriken vs Collector Rifle: 1-33 Scorpion vs M-13 Raptor: 33-1 Javelin vs M-15 Vindicator: 32-2 N7 Typhoon vs M-8 Avenger: 32-2 N7 Piranha vs M-27 Scimitar: 32-2 M-3 Predator vs Executioner Pistol: 3-31 M-7 Lancer vs Reegar Carbine: 30-4 AT-12 Raider vs M-6 Carnifex: 28-6 N7 Valiant vs M-55 Argus: 28-6 M-300 Claymore vs Geth Plasma Shotgun: 27-7 Arc Pistol vs M-29 Incisor: 27-7 Cerberus Harrier vs M-96 Mattock: 27-7 M-97 Viper vs M-90 Indra: 8-26 Pairings with 2-1 or 1-2 score: M-5 Phalanx vs Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle: 9-25 M-23 Katana vs M-22 Eviscerator: 9-25 Graal Spike Thrower vs M-98 Widow: 11-23 Acolyte vs M-99 Saber: 11-23 M-77 Paladin vs N7 Hurricane: 12-22 M-37 Falcon vs Kishock Harpoon Gun: 13-21 M-12 Locust vs N7 Valkyrie: 13-21 Collector Sniper Rifle vs Krysae Sniper Rifle: 20-14 Geth Pulse Rifle vs Geth Spitfire: 19-15 Striker Assault Rifle vs M-9 Tempest: 18-16 Particle Rifle vs Venom Shotgun: 18-16 N7 Eagle vs M-11 Suppressor: 18-16 N7 Crusader vs M-358 Talon: 16-18 M-92 Mantis vs Collector SMG: 16-18 Draws (1.5/1.5 score): M-76 Revenant vs Phaeston: 17-17 Disciple vs Blood Pack Punisher: 17-17 Standings after the first round:
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Round Two pairings: N7 Valiant vs N7 Typhoon Cerberus Harrier vs Executioner Pistol Collector Rifle vs M-7 Lancer M-300 Claymore vs N7 Piranha M-11 Wraith vs Black Widow Arc Pistol vs Scorpion Javelin vs AT-12 Raider M-90 Indra vs M-22 Eviscerator Geth Pulse Rifle vs M-99 Saber Collector Sniper Rifle vs Collector SMG Striker Assault Rifle vs M-98 Widow N7 Valkyrie vs Kishock Harpoon Gun Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle vs N7 Eagle M-358 Talon vs N7 Hurricane Particle Rifle vs Disciple Phaeston vs Blood Pack Punisher M-76 Revenant vs Venom Shotgun M-77 Paladin vs M-12 Locust Graal Spike Thrower vs M-37 Falcon Acolyte vs M-92 Mantis M-11 Suppressor vs N7 Crusader M-9 Tempest vs M-5 Phalanx Geth Spitfire vs Krysae Sniper Rifle M-23 Katana vs M-97 Viper Geth Plasma SMG vs M-13 Raptor M-4 Shuriken vs M-15 Vindicator M-29 Incisor vs M-27 Scimitar M-25 Hornet vs M-3 Predator M-8 Avenger vs M-55 Argus M-96 Mattock vs M-6 Carnifex Geth Plasma Shotgun vs Reegar Carbine And the survey: kwiksurveys.com/s/BRosrwiL
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Post by LoonySpectre on Apr 15, 2017 9:24:36 GMT
Some clarification on the pairing system. In case when there's an odd number of participants with the same score, the participant with the lowest number of received votes (if there are several, one gets chosen at random) is paired up with the participant from the next-lowest point bracket with the highest number of received votes (again, if there are several, one gets chosen at random). That's how Indra/Eviscerator, PPR/Disciple, Revenant/Venom and Katana/Viper pairings were made.
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Post by Arkhne on Apr 15, 2017 11:36:13 GMT
Round 2's pairings are pretty damned good, most of the guns I feel similarly about, very few "This gun is utter crap, so the other wins by default" which happened a lot in the first round.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 15, 2017 18:37:43 GMT
PPR vs. Venom? That's brutal, two of my top 5 favorite guns... q5tyhj,pls.Venom is love,venom is life. Sure, of course I picked Venom- that goes without saying. But most of the other good guns had cupcake matchups in that round, like vs. the Vindicator or Acolyte or something. PPR is my favorite AR so it was sort of disappointing to have to vote against it so early.
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Post by LoonySpectre on Apr 15, 2017 19:11:39 GMT
There are currently 4 perfect (100%/0%) scores in round 2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:22:52 GMT
This round is a tough one !
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Post by Clyde on Apr 16, 2017 1:51:03 GMT
More Venom votes pls.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 16, 2017 5:41:49 GMT
Talon VS Hurricane
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Post by Arkhne on Apr 16, 2017 8:37:54 GMT
As to Talon vs Hurricane, I voted Talon. It provides an interesting Alternative weapon that is basically the dirty love child of Wraith and Acolyte.
Hurricane is just a lighter, less accurate Harrier.
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Post by LoonySpectre on Apr 16, 2017 16:08:16 GMT
There's gonna be a rather interesting matchup at the top.
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Post by Clyde on Apr 16, 2017 17:01:45 GMT
Hurricane is just a lighter, less accurate Harrier. With a better weight:damage ratio and a respectable amount of ammo. I also voted Talon though.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 16, 2017 22:06:11 GMT
As to Talon vs Hurricane, I voted Talon. It provides an interesting Alternative weapon that is basically the dirty love child of Wraith and Acolyte. Hurricane is just a lighter, less accurate Harrier. Yes. No. Talon is that dirty love child. Harrier is barely more accurate than Hurricane. In true ME3MP fashion, try both on GI and see which scores higher. It is not close.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 0:24:40 GMT
Harrier is barely more accurate than Hurricane. In true ME3MP fashion, try both on GI and see which scores higher. It is not close. I disagree with that quite a bit. A three round burst can get a neck-head-head shot with the Harrier if you're out of cover at medium/long range. The Hurricane just can't do that at all, even if you're firing short bursts. Now in cover the Harrier is a whole different beast, but that's cause it's bugged rather significantly. My Drelldept often uses the Harrier as he's fast enough to hit up multiple ammo boxes easily on Plat and needs to restock his 'nades anyways. *** I'll quote myself from BSN Prime in regards to weighing in on the Talon though... "But the Talon is still better than either of em. Or any of em. It's just better at everything than everything else. It's the thing everything else is trying to be better than. It's even better than this argument I'm making about why it's better. It's that better."
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 17, 2017 1:39:52 GMT
Harrier is barely more accurate than Hurricane. In true ME3MP fashion, try both on GI and see which scores higher. It is not close. I disagree with that quite a bit. A three round burst can get a neck-head-head shot with the Harrier if you're out of cover at medium/long range. The Hurricane just can't do that at all, even if you're firing short bursts. Now in cover the Harrier is a whole different beast, but that's cause it's bugged rather significantly. My Drelldept often uses the Harrier as he's fast enough to hit up multiple ammo boxes easily on Plat and needs to restock his 'nades anyways. *** I'll quote myself from BSN Prime in regards to weighing in on the Talon though... "But the Talon is still better than either of em. Or any of em. It's just better at everything than everything else. It's the thing everything else is trying to be better than. It's even better than this argument I'm making about why it's better. It's that better."Meh. I'll take Hurricane over either every day all day and every day next week, all next month, and for the rest of recorded history. Harrier hits a little harder, and is a little more accurate. Yes. It also eats ammo like a hog and is heavier. The Talon takes too much discipline, and I like sniping. For solo play, I will die more with Talon than either H weapon. Talon is fantastic. So is Harrier. You probably have better aim than I do, and can Alquinn all over the map with it. Don't get me wrong... If it is down to these three guns, I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed. Also, Claymore.
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Post by Arkhne on Apr 17, 2017 4:47:33 GMT
Also, I must admit that my view of the Hurricane suffers from Trollstore RNG. Hurricane IV vs Harrier X, so yeah, the Hurricane has a significant disadvantage here, I see its potential, but it just isn't there yet. Also, it's basically an SMG shotgun (With a similar TTK), Good up close, inconsistent at range (At least Shotguns get a smart choke). Hell, I sometimes even take my BPP IX over my Hurricane (My Eagle TSol does, adds some impressive Anti-Armour damage to him).
Claymoar is one of those guns the Trollstore refuses to give my newest alt. Apparently I like gear more than piercing mods or guns, because only have Shotgun/Sniper/Pistol piercing mods, and not good shotguns not named "Piranha I" or "Reegar I". I also apparently like the Valkyrie (I don't), last two UR drops have been Valkyrie, which is sadly now one of my best weapons, despite lack of piercing. Thankfully, the UR drop before that was Black Widow I, so that's something. Still need a good shotgun, dammit. Katana needs too much help on Gold.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 17, 2017 5:50:55 GMT
I picked the talon because GI
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