Bad Weapon Showdown!!: Vindicator Vs. Striker

Only true scrubs like you don't know how to make the tat-tat-tat of the vindicator reign death from above.  Glad you made the leap over. This place wouldn't be the same without you.

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GruntKitterhand

Problem is that in this case the rate of fire acts as a delay between shots. Not even the black widow has such a horrible delay and it deals way more damage per shot. Also BW is hitscan whereas the Krysae has bullet travel and that trashy tendency to "pick the targets for you" when you fire.

The last time I tried that thing was on the Salarian inf. And I picked every amp alongside with incendiary IV to boost as much as possible the awful damage. It was still mediocre at best.

EDIT: Dammit forgot to quote...

STRIKER!

I actually greatly prefer the Striker over the Vindicator. If I want to play a burst-fire weapon (which isn't often the case) I'd always choose the Valkyrie over things like Vindicator or Argus.

Striker with Warp Ammo works really well on the Vanilla Human Soldier. Adrenaline Rush helps with the small clip of the gun, and if specced for the shield boost in Rank 6 of AR you also get a little more survivability for being able to stand out there pouring out the hurt.

Also personally, I like the Striker on a weapons build of the Krogan Shaman. That guy is tanky enough to withstand a lot of enemy fire and isn't easily staggered from the front.

There are no bad weapons in this game. Once you count rarity, most of them make sense. There are a few designer goofs, but that is to be expected from a team that clearly has never played a video game in their life. With that last in mind, they did a damned good job, could've sourced information from actually gamers, but hey, they gave us a product that we still play (some of us every day) years after the dev stopped caring, despite all the bugs, doesn't that say something about what they achieved?

I'd rather take a Hornet than a Krysae, why? Because I prefer the SMG-style (burst fire or not), than a grenade launcher that forces me to use a scope. I'm also not a fan of projectile weapons, simply because whilst they work just fine off-host, they are a buggy mess for others, which is roughly 3/4 of the players of the game, which is not fair. Slow firing weapons that don't insta-gib are also not a favourite of mine. Eviscerator is my least favourite gun because of it. At least the Wraith (that I occasionally use, though much prefer the Claymore) has the damage to save your arse, the Eviscerator doesn't.

There are few guns I haven't taken to Gold and done well with. I've topscored Gold lobbies with each and every Common weapon, with a weapon focus (So Avenger Adept, which I have done often, doesn't count, where Avenger Destroyer/TGI does). There are unfortunate guns, but no truly bad ones. Except for those YOU PERSONALLY do bad with, but then, the problem isn't with the gun, is it? For example, I do really badly with the Acolyte, to the point that in the last few waves, I just stop firing it altogether, is it a bad gun? No, watch some Plat solos, most of them at least side-arm it. Am I bad with it? Yes, very much so, I completely and freely admit my limitation in this regard.

I would tend more towards Arkhne's view, despite my personal loathing of the Hornet. I think every weapon in the game apart from the Shuriken is usable on Bronze or Silver, and it's only when moving to Gold or Plat that the 'heavy overcompensation' is required. In game design terms that's absolutely fine. And the fact that that heavy compensation can be reduced the the word 'TSol' in most cases is good enough for me. I personally draw the line at the Shuriken, Argus, Vindicator, Incisor and Hornet (and Reegar) as the only guns I never use. Yes, I know how to use them and top score, but no, I don't enjoy it. If I want a semi-annoying but potentially rewarding challenge, I'll use the Valkyrie, and I view the Krysae similarly, but I honestly prefer the Avenger to those others. These are mostly based on personal game experiences, just as CHRoME's view of the Krysae can be reduced to his own frustrations at its nerfing. 

The Crusader, Claymore and Kishock are probably my three favourite guns in the game, because they require a degree of skill to get the most out of them, but the rewards are amazing when it all clicks.

And yeah, when I consider the games I have but still haven't played, or the ones I've played a bit, props to BioWare indeed. They did a pretty good job overall because we're still here having fun. 

Kssshk, I approve of this product and/or service. 

The shuriken is terrible. Try soloing a single banshee on gold with it while you run from ammo box to ammo box screaming as her barriers replenish. Every other shit tier weapon I actually like somewhat especially the scimitar. But the shuriken sucks dirty butt.

In almost 3000 hours and with 78 weapon masteries and almost 600 individual 140k points completions, I've recorded a total of 1724 points with the Shuriken. I was using a TSol on Giant and I quit the game. I think it was Silver, and I'd have had better success farting at the screen. Every other gun is usable in some capacity and I've done all their challenges, but the Shuriken really is the ultimate piece of crap. The Avenger is genuinely deadly on full auto by comparison. TSol Avenger can regularly top score on Gold. TSol Shuriken is just a castrated Fat bastard.

One word: Airlock.

Silver isn't for shooting guns it's for light-melee all teh things.

Krysae is awsome? Maybe on bronze....

SMR you serious o.O Krysae on the HSent? You slow down power usage with no real weapon dmg in return and disruptor on a Warp kit - you sir are crazy!