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Post by someN7orother on Apr 13, 2017 19:28:23 GMT
I just pugged gold/kett, and had the most surreal experience I can remember since picking up this game. Even crazier than Fiend blink-grabs. Check it out: guns actually killed stuff.
It wasn't even one of those 1-shot everything lobbies, or godmode no cooldown crap. Everything worked as normal, kett still could fuck you up good, but I was actually gunning down stuff at a reasonable rate -- no more emptying several clips on mooks. I even topscored using (GASP!!!) the Soned. No e-peen here, I'm average at best at this game. I was seriously fucking freaked out. I stood before a chokepoint, popped Turbocharge and enemies died left and right, as you'd expect when you shoot them with a goddamn space minigun. It was glorious. I'm guessing a 100% TTK improvement at the very least.
Needless to say, it felt great. Anyone noticed anything different or it's just another rando "experimenting"?
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 19:30:52 GMT
I just pugged gold/kett, and had the most surreal experience I can remember since picking up this game. Even crazier than Fiend blink-grabs. Check it out: guns actually killed stuff.It wasn't even one of those 1-shot everything lobbies, or godmode no cooldown crap. Everything worked as normal, kett still could fuck you up good, but I was actually gunning down stuff at a reasonable rate -- no more emptying several clips on mooks. I even topscored using (GASP!!!) the Soned. No e-peen here, I'm average at best at this game. I was seriously fucking freaked out. I stood before a chokepoint, popped Turbocharge and enemies died left and right, as you'd expect when you shoot them with a goddamn space minigun. It was glorious. I'm guessing a 100% TTK improvement at the very least. Needless to say, it felt great. Anyone noticed something different or it's just another rando "experimenting"? I used the Soned on a Silver last night and it was still complete space garbage. We don't yet know if Balance Adjustments are server side, or if they require a patch. Maybe post the stats of your Soned here, and see if anyone has a screenshot of the same level before today to compare it to. |
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 13, 2017 19:35:03 GMT
Wasn't just the Soned. The previous game (with the same host) was with a Raptor and a Hurricane -- same thing. That's the reason I decided to try it out, otherwise you wouldn't catch me dead with that piece of shit.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 13, 2017 19:36:56 GMT
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Post by mrvolio on Apr 14, 2017 1:12:47 GMT
Wasn't just the Soned. The previous game (with the same host) was with a Raptor and a Hurricane -- same thing. That's the reason I decided to try it out, otherwise you wouldn't catch me dead with that piece of shit. Raptor and Hurricane. Those are within the all inclusive set of guns that actually do something due to ultra-high RoF. I'll bring a spare AR to try things out in my Gold runs tonight. Highly doubt balance is server side, since our dmg values in the menus haven't budged. You sure you weren't in a +dmg% Apex Mission? |
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 14, 2017 1:15:28 GMT
I will give a random gold solo a try to see if anything changed. I will be using the mattok.
Edit:Nope. Still sucks.
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Post by mrvolio on Apr 14, 2017 1:25:21 GMT
I will give a random gold solo a try to see if anything changed. I will be using the mattok. Edit:Nope. Still sucks. Can confirm weapons still suck. |
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 14, 2017 1:30:29 GMT
Nah, it was deffo a hacked lobby, I just tried hosting myself. A pity. The game is so much better with whatever settings the guy was using.
Guess will have to look him up, now. To report him, of course.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 14, 2017 1:35:04 GMT
Nah, it was deffo a hacked lobby, I just tried hosting myself. A pity. The game is so much better with whatever settings the guy was using. Guess will have to look him up, now. To report him, of course.  |
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Post by vomder on Apr 14, 2017 1:41:42 GMT
I had a couple of games like this the other day with a particular host. It was not only guns though, powers are kicking ass too.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 14, 2017 1:43:02 GMT
I had a couple of games like this the other day with a particular host. It was not only guns though, powers are kicking ass too. So people that actually know how to balance shit. |
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 14, 2017 1:46:22 GMT
I had a couple of games like this the other day with a particular host. It was not only guns though, powers are kicking ass too. So people that actually know how to balance shit. "Hey, BioWareEA are people too." Said no one. |
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Post by Pearl on Apr 14, 2017 1:47:20 GMT
Balance changes cannot be performed without downloading a patch. If you did not download a patch, it was the result of the host cheating.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 14, 2017 1:48:27 GMT
Balance changes cannot be performed without downloading a patch. If you did not download a patch, it was the result of the host cheating. Can we really call it a cheat though when weapons and powers were performing the way they are supposed too? Aka being able to kill shit. |
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Post by vomder on Apr 14, 2017 1:51:22 GMT
At first I thought it was the apex modifiers but when the powers and weapons were still great in the second apex mission I knew something was up. The first game was gold and felt just about right and like ME3 almost. The second game on silver, annihilation field was by itself killing regular units.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 14, 2017 1:51:36 GMT
Balance changes cannot be performed without downloading a patch. If you did not download a patch, it was the result of the host cheating. Can we really call it a cheat though when weapons and powers were performing the way they are supposed too? Aka being able to kill shit. I don't think so, but unfortunately it's not my call to make. All hail our corporate overlords. |
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 14, 2017 2:18:25 GMT
I just pugged gold/kett, and had the most surreal experience I can remember since picking up this game. Even crazier than Fiend blink-grabs. Check it out: guns actually killed stuff.It wasn't even one of those 1-shot everything lobbies, or godmode no cooldown crap. Everything worked as normal, kett still could fuck you up good, but I was actually gunning down stuff at a reasonable rate -- no more emptying several clips on mooks. I even topscored using (GASP!!!) the Soned. No e-peen here, I'm average at best at this game. I was seriously fucking freaked out. I stood before a chokepoint, popped Turbocharge and enemies died left and right, as you'd expect when you shoot them with a goddamn space minigun. It was glorious. I'm guessing a 100% TTK improvement at the very least. Needless to say, it felt great. Anyone noticed anything different or it's just another rando "experimenting"? My most recent match just before heading out to Papa John's for some pineapple pizza was with my SI and Sweeper (I heard on the stream that it's an amazing AR). Well the match was Sandstorm/Khett/Gold, the lag was horrendous, headless Annointed were standing back up and shooting me, fortunately they couldn't hit jack shit because I would routinely rubber band all the way back to FB Zero, suckahs. It was just me and the host, we literally cycled through 8 pugs who came in and dropped out, I was the only one who was masochistic enough to stick around, then again I was probably also the only one wearing equipment and didn't want it to go to waste. Saddest part was, despite all of that, I was outscoring the host. Its wasn't necessarily that the Sweeper is good (it's not), but the host was just not very good at the game. It ended up taking around 33 minutes for what was essentially a duo; none of the other pugs who came and went managed more than 2k scoreboard before buggering off. I politely asked him to never host again, but I don't expect he will listen to me. TLDR the Sweeper still sucks |
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Post by burnsidhe on Apr 14, 2017 2:23:03 GMT
A reminder: Some lobbies aren't just 'random random random' Some lobbies are actual APEX missions from the Strike Team list. Those missions have server-side modifiers like "+100% shields, -75% health" or "powers -10% damage, weapons +10% damage".
These are NOT hacks. These are official built in modifiers to the missions.
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Post by neightrix on Apr 14, 2017 3:25:09 GMT
Almost certainly a hacked lobby, I gotten into one where it felt like player damage was 10x normal - Charge would 1-shot Assemblers, and Equalizer could 1-clip an open Destroyer. Not very fun to be honest, although it was nice Charge actually did ME3-ish damage.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 14, 2017 7:12:41 GMT
Balance changes cannot be performed without downloading a patch. If you did not download a patch, it was the result of the host cheating. I'm not sure that we know this for sure. They made an adjustment to an objective wave today server side (doubled the number of pizzas). There are clearly things that CAN be adjusted without a patch, we just don't know what. |
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Post by mograximus on Apr 14, 2017 8:07:48 GMT
I just entered my first hacked lobby, sadly. I'm guessing because it was the gold apex mission against kett for the day, people couldn't be bothered to do it normally. Everything was a 1 shot kill. I left after 20 seconds, not because I'm holier than thou, but because my pride.... mah PRYDE
Edit: okay that's 2 in a row now...
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Post by nanotm on Apr 14, 2017 10:29:06 GMT
the balance changes to the mp part of the game can be done via server push adjustments, they don't need an actual patch other than to change the values listed in the clients (your pc screen) bioware was using this since me3mp to adjust on the fly various values without telling people and seeing how things went before publishing things that they decided to have as the new standard.
the problem is that patch based changes also change the SP side of the game and so will end up breaking things there, right now if they just modified every weapon with a 100% damage boost on the server side it would fix everything other than text values and leave the SP side of the game alone thus not screwing things up (thanks to the way the passive boosts work in sp)
and its quite clear that they have been modding the ai behaviour as well as speed values for the factions, on standard missions in unmodded lobbies, I hosted the apex mission last night on night time sandstorm map (way nicer map than the day time one) and it was super easy, switched to random random got the day time map and outlaws and it was like everything was moving twice as fast and more co-ordinated at that, did another game and outlaw mooks were actually harder than kett mooks to take out mostly because they kept dancing away from every attack whilst still shooting at you...
came back a few hours later and outlaws were back to slow moving and far less co-ordinated also gun damage seemed to have gone back down to normal values...
now I know the games were unmodified because I was hosting them and ive never bothered with that nonsense, in fact the only thing I ever tried was lowering the frame rate on me3 and I quit the game after 30 seconds to put it back to normal because my eyes were hurting so much)
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