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Post by leo3abp on Apr 15, 2017 3:16:44 GMT
Played trilogy right before MEA so no rosy images - OT is simply a much better experience whether as a whole, or on individual game basis. Dropped MEA until further patches and playing DA:O right now - it is also a much better game, despite its age and many flaws. So apparently Andromeda is indeed a lowliest of the low that BW ever made.
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Post by sil on Apr 15, 2017 8:51:53 GMT
Still playing it, still modding it.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 15, 2017 10:56:06 GMT
Just finished andromeda last night, and the first thing I did was look up the cost to download the OT vs ordering it from Amazon
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 15, 2017 11:56:25 GMT
I want to get into modding next time I revisit those games and rewrite the catalyst dialogue. I want to try something I've been meaning to do for years.
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Post by sil on Apr 15, 2017 12:04:36 GMT
I want to get into modding next time I revisit those games and rewrite the catalyst dialogue. I want to try something I've been meaning to do for years. Just a warning, modding ME3 is very difficult. It's rewarding once you get your edits to work, but until then its very frustrating. Good luck with it if you do it though =)
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 12:07:11 GMT
I just started a new ME1 run. MEA put me in the mood for some good Mass Effect and while I wait to see how the CC updates turn out figured I'd return to the golden oldies. Having a blast with it. Sure the animations and cover mechanics are bad, femShep's arms look like they would snap like twigs if she ever actually fired a gun, and her giraffe neck is horrifying at times, but I still love it. The setting, the music, how much fun it is to hate Saren. Still the best game in the series. I have to say, when I think back on ME1, the real villain(s) seems to be more the Council and Udina more than anything. Think about it. The salarians sent an STG team to investigate a facility on Virmire, they jury-rig a reactor core to be a weapon, and their captain decides to use it against the facility, and not only do they totally ignore these facts, they blame Shepard and ground her for it, with Udina's blessing. You would think that he of all people wouldn't want these aliens pushing some agenda to scapegoat the first human Spectre. Sometimes I wonder why I let them live in my main playthrough.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 15, 2017 12:11:33 GMT
I have to say, when I think back on ME1, the real villain(s) seems to be more the Council and Udina more than anything. Think about it. The salarians sent an STG team to investigate a facility on Virmire, they jury-rig a reactor core to be a weapon, and their captain decides to use it against the facility, and not only do they totally ignore these facts, they blame Shepard and ground her for it, with Udina's blessing. You would think that he of all people wouldn't want these aliens pushing some agenda to scapegoat the first human Spectre. Sometimes I wonder why I let them live in my main playthrough. I wonder why one of the salarians can't stay with the bomb, since they're the ones who jury-rigged the thing, instead of A/K.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
I have to say, when I think back on ME1, the real villain(s) seems to be more the Council and Udina more than anything. Think about it. The salarians sent an STG team to investigate a facility on Virmire, they jury-rig a reactor core to be a weapon, and their captain decides to use it against the facility, and not only do they totally ignore these facts, they blame Shepard and ground her for it, with Udina's blessing. You would think that he of all people wouldn't want these aliens pushing some agenda to scapegoat the first human Spectre. Sometimes I wonder why I let them live in my main playthrough. I wonder why one of the salarians can't stay with the bomb, since they're the ones who jury-rigged the thing, instead of A/K. Well, the answer is obvious: to give us a hard choice in the mission. If you could just select a salarian instead of losing one of your own companions, they might as well not even offer the choice at all, because killing off one of these rando frogs is a no-brainer. The only reason anyone would choose Ashley or Kaidan in that scenario is simply that they just don't like one of them.
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Post by sil on Apr 15, 2017 12:14:59 GMT
Well, the answer is obvious: to give us a hard choice in the mission. If you could just select a salarian instead of losing one of your own companions, they might as well not even offer the choice at all, because killing off one of these rando frogs is a no-brainer. The only reason anyone would choose Ashley or Kaidan in that scenario is simply that they just don't like one of them. I'd still choose Kaidan for the bomb.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 12:16:31 GMT
Well, the answer is obvious: to give us a hard choice in the mission. If you could just select a salarian instead of losing one of your own companions, they might as well not even offer the choice at all, because killing off one of these rando frogs is a no-brainer. The only reason anyone would choose Ashley or Kaidan in that scenario is simply that they just don't like one of them. I'd still choose Kaidan for the bomb. Sure, but is there an RP reason or is it just a 'don't like that character' reason? Just the same, I'd be willing to bet that a vast majority of people would just keep both and kill a salarian because the choice would be considerably unbalanced in favor of the familiar faces. Realistically, it would just be one or the other, meaning that if a salarian was going to stay behind with the bomb, the writers would just script Kirrahe into the role and he'd simply never make it off the planet alive.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 15, 2017 12:17:04 GMT
Well, the answer is obvious: to give us a hard choice in the mission. If you could just select a salarian instead of losing one of your own companions, they might as well not even offer the choice at all, because killing off one of these rando frogs is a no-brainer. Its just another choice put in for the feels. Its funny that if the player has all 6 squadmates, why can't Shepard tell the others to get A/K while Shepard gets A/K. No reason for A/K to die.
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 15, 2017 13:07:19 GMT
I started an NG+ run on ME2, especially after seeing this for the first time:
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Post by sil on Apr 15, 2017 13:41:41 GMT
I'd still choose Kaidan for the bomb. Sure, but is there an RP reason or is it just a 'don't like that character' reason? Just the same, I'd be willing to bet that a vast majority of people would just keep both and kill a salarian because the choice would be considerably unbalanced in favor of the familiar faces. Realistically, it would just be one or the other, meaning that if a salarian was going to stay behind with the bomb, the writers would just script Kirrahe into the role and he'd simply never make it off the planet alive. Because I'm not a fan of Kaidan, but then, I'm less of a fan of Liara so I'd rather she stayed. It would've been better if Kirrahe and his team were a choice to leave behind, but have it so they had some kind of positive impact on the final mission. So your choice to keep both squad mates also leads to a negative during the battle for the citadel.
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Post by azuremazey on Apr 15, 2017 14:11:10 GMT
I'm doing so right now! I just started the 3rd one.
Not to necessary just get those nostalgic feels, but because I originally played ME on console. Since I played Andromeda on PC, I went ahead and bought the trilogy and all the DLCs (I haven't played the DLCs before, actually). I'm making different choices this time around, and I really love it. It has some minor issues and such, but it's still enjoyable and one of my favorite series. I loved Andromeda as well, even with it's issues.
After, I'll play Andromeda again, but make different choices in there. I think I'll wait for the patches, though. So I'll play Dragon Age: Inquisition while I wait after ME3.
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Post by bizantura on Apr 15, 2017 14:15:25 GMT
I completed a playthrough of ME3 in-between MEA playthroughs Do you ever sleep, drink or eat? If you have a partner she must be an angel!
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Post by Subtle on Apr 15, 2017 14:38:55 GMT
Yes, started a nightmare run through of ME2, forgot that I needed to be in a sound proof padded room to play it. Neighbours enquiring about all the swearing and things crashing against walls is not a good look.
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Post by jastall on Apr 15, 2017 14:43:22 GMT
I replayed ME2 and ME3 before Andromeda (skipped ME1 because it hasn't aged well, at all, and wasn't that great a game to begin with apart from the music and Virmire). So I'm not going to play more OT for quite some time.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 15, 2017 15:06:23 GMT
I want to get into modding next time I revisit those games and rewrite the catalyst dialogue. I want to try something I've been meaning to do for years. Just a warning, modding ME3 is very difficult. It's rewarding once you get your edits to work, but until then its very frustrating. Good luck with it if you do it though =) I expect to give up several times already. I wanna try anyway lol
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Post by mmoblitz on Apr 15, 2017 15:18:45 GMT
Yes, I am. Halfway through ME3 now. After MEA, I appreciate the OT just that much more.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 15, 2017 15:20:34 GMT
Do you ever sleep, drink or eat? If you have a partner she must be an angel! Yes and yes. Being retired gives me a lot of extra time.
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Post by sil on Apr 15, 2017 16:02:16 GMT
I expect to give up several times already. I wanna try anyway lol Haha, I gave up when I tried adding Spectre Terminal messages but then returned when I got a bit of inspiration about something else. Now I can do both
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Post by laxian on Apr 15, 2017 16:06:20 GMT
So... the original trilogy might conjure up rosy images in our memory. But I'm curious if our nostalgic memories of the trilogy are as timeless as they seem. Has anyone actually gone back to play the trilogy again, while ME:A is still fresh in our minds? If so, does the trilogy still live up to the impression we remember it left on us? Is it still a masterpiece of story-telling, wonder, and action, compared to the longer and more drawn-out ME:A? (graphic differences aside...I'm more interested in the overall story). Thoughts? I'll probably replay ME1 and 2 soon (Will not touch 3 with a 10 foot pole...yeah it has the best gameplay of the first 3 games and some of the DLCs aren't bad (I am still angry at myself that I bought them during the ME:A-Hype...needed my fix and I didn't own any ME3-DLC previously!), but that doesn't outweigh the crappy story, especially allmighty Cerberus (and I kind of liked Cerberus in ME2, I mean sure what they do is inhumane at times, but on the other hand: So is what the SPECTREs do, what STG does (deliberating about a Yagh-Uplift...damned STG, you guys should know better by now! Remember the Krogan?), what the Matriarchs do (withholding that nice beacon on Thessia so they can stay ahead technologically and making laws that essentially punish others if they do the same!) etc.) and the damned Bratalyst -.-) greetings LAX ps: Despite not wanting it on the one hand (because they made the Quarians DLC - at least everything points at that!), I want some MEA-DLC soon
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Post by laxian on Apr 15, 2017 16:21:07 GMT
Well, the answer is obvious: to give us a hard choice in the mission. If you could just select a salarian instead of losing one of your own companions, they might as well not even offer the choice at all, because killing off one of these rando frogs is a no-brainer. The only reason anyone would choose Ashley or Kaidan in that scenario is simply that they just don't like one of them. I'd still choose Kaidan for the bomb. Ash - not even because of her Xenophobia (which isn't un-justified (!) - I mean the council kind of are dirt bags that force the races not on the council to fucking bow to them...is it any wounder I love fanfiction where humanity unites the "dregs" (or what the council would call the dregs anyway!) of galactic society, starting with the Quarians and the Krogan (both have beef with the council and both don't have any problems with mainstream humanity after all - the Quarians just have a problem with Cerberus!) and even the Batarians (after they've overthrown their corrupt leaders and freed all the slaves!) in order to set up their own council!) No, it's because of common sense: Soldiers exist like sand does on beaches - biotics however are rare, especially strong ones like Kaidan (there's less than 20 human biotics that we know of that can fight an Asari with biotics alone and have a chance of winning...we have Miranda (optimized clone and carefully selected, she says she isn't the first - she's the first her "father" kept, so she's even above her other clone sisters, except Oriana maybe (note: We don't even know if Oriana Lawson is a biotic and if so: She's not trained!)), we have Jack (Cerberus experiment boosted and she was stronger than most before that!), we have Kaidan (L2 implant - has headaches because of it, but spikes a lot higher than most L3s - except Shep if he/she is a biotic!), we have Cora (trained with Asari because she could keep up without much difficulty!), we have that girl from the books (forgot the name -.-) and we have Shepard (if he or she is a biotic)...might have missed a few, but that's not very many, so preserving such a fine specimen is more important than saving a "common soldier" (sorry, Ash!) greetings LAX
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Post by jclosed on Apr 15, 2017 16:28:26 GMT
I have played ME 1,2,3 before jumping into ME:A. I now realize it was a "goodby" play trough, because ME:A has set the new stage for me.
The OT is fun, but even before playing ME:A I had to force myself to complete the trilogy. Maybe I have played it too often, or maybe it has lost it's magic. I really don't know. Anyway - After playing that, I really had far more fun with ME:A. It's an refreshing new start, with an protagonist that is not again a highly trained bad-ass military with a complete overwhelming (also military) fleet behind him (that's getting tired by now). I think that makes ME:A for me a breath of fresh air.
I do not think I will go back to the old Trilogy again very soon - If ever. I really hope to see what will happen in the near future with the Pathfinder and crew (and who is going to join them - Without spoiling I can say that to those that finished the game and know whom I mean).
So no. I have not gone back, and I do not plan to do that either.
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