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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 0:18:37 GMT
Assuming premium packs have a 22.5% drop rate it takes 450 000 to get 1 UR. If there are 180 UR cards to collect that means 450,000 x 180 = 81 million credits. Which divided on 55,000 per gold game = 1473 gold games.
The grind in this game is unreal. I've allready played for 125 hours but I'm still missing 130 ultra rares. 130x 450,000 = 58500000 / 55 = 1091 gold games left. If I want to max my manifest within the next 3 months that means I'll have to play around 12 games a day...... Assuming I can get 3 games done per hour that's 4 hours per day for the next 3 months.
In me3 I maxed my manifest in good time before the first dlc because there were only 70 ultra rare cards to collect. Now I couldn't keep track of time and games played on xbox 360 but I'm pretty sure it was nowhere near as much as the projected numbers above. Probably half of that max.
It's pretty discouraging to look at the actual raw facts here. I've allready grinded so much that I'm getting bored of many aspects of the game but I'm not even a 3rd of the way to maxing my ultra rares. In fact I still don't even have a piranha or hurricane 1. In me3 I was not even close to bored of the game when I maxed my manifest before dlc.
Well done ea/bioware, the new ultra rare system is cancer, especially the charcter card x system If it weren't for the characcter cards this wouln't be too bad but as it is this is too much grind required I think.
And this is all before a significant amount of dlc has come out. They allready added inferno and the gladiator, I assume they'll add a bunch more. Unlocking dlc characters is gonna be such a pain. It will be very upsetting if they add something like a drell adept (my fav char from 3) and I could risk playing another 125 hours without getting him because the odds of getting the ultra rares you want are so abysmal because of so many items in the ultra rare pool. In me3 you at least had a fair chance of maxing the original items before dlc so dlc was easier to unlock. Good luck with that in this, most people won't be able to achieve it within a reasonable timeframe without spending a lot of money.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 15, 2017 0:23:58 GMT
Premium packs do not have a 22.5% drop rate for URs. It's more like 15%, tops.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Apr 15, 2017 0:37:57 GMT
Don't forget about them adding in more god knows when. That's always welcome. "Oh yeah, I definitely wanted 10 more cards to have to collect further diluting the pool.
While one new thing every week or two is kinda cool, it really doesn't give you the option to get everything else out of the way first.
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Post by pantherdane on Apr 15, 2017 0:40:05 GMT
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 0:49:48 GMT
Premium packs do not have a 22.5% drop rate for URs. It's more like 15%, tops. Some guy on reddit spent 1500 dollars on packs and that's the number he got. 20-25% seems to be the concensus but from my experience it's definately closer to 20%....
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 15, 2017 0:51:24 GMT
right or wrong...respect to the dedication. I won't play enough gold games to max out my rares. RIP to those that paid for them. Hope you love AMP. You can catch me on stuff not made by EAware after this one..
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Post by aryantes on Apr 15, 2017 1:02:47 GMT
I'm gonna assume there will be a platinum mode later that will allow you to utilize your high leveled weapons and allow progress significantly faster though.
There's really no point in attempting to max your manifest if you're not enjoying the game, unless that's just something you feel like you want to do.
Personally, I'd like to see them add another difficulty above platinum, assuming it wasn't just an increase in HP and enemy damage.
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Post by spacev3gan on Apr 15, 2017 1:08:33 GMT
I've already played for 125 hours but I'm still missing 130 ultra rares. Lol what? Is that supposed to be bad? I have played for 250 hours and still missing 135 Ultra Rares.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 1:12:32 GMT
I'm gonna assume there will be a platinum mode later that will allow you to utilize your high leveled weapons and allow progress significantly faster though. There's really no point in attempting to max your manifest if you're not enjoying the game, unless that's just something you feel like you want to do. Personally, I'd like to see them add another difficulty above platinum, assuming it wasn't just an increase in HP and enemy damage. Well I've sort of given up for now and now I'm just hoarding credits in case they release some really cool dlc character that i want. Because I know it's gonna take a crap ton of credits or extreme luck to get them if they are ultra rare. I was mostly grinding for a piranha or hurricane but it seems like rng is intent to not give me any of them any time soon so I opted to start saving instead and hopefully I get them when I eventually spend my savings. I can only pray that eaware buff some of the shit tier ultra rares I own instead. I just think it's sad and stupid that they've made the grind so crazy in this while the gameplay is more shallow than ever. In me3 I maxed my manifest (talking about the 7 original ultra rares) without it feeling like such a chore, I'm sure it took less than half the time required here and I had fun doing it. In this I'm no a 3rd of the way there an allready bored. This game needs major overhauls to keep players interested. Half my friends list has allready quit and its in part because of crap like this. It seems they focused more on making the game as grindy as possibly and less on making gameplay fun. At launch we had 90 more ultra rare cards than in the previous game at launch, including many character cards that are literally only there to dillute the loot pool. Meanwhile we have less maps, less races and less unique powers than me3 had at launch. They sacrificed making a fun game for extending the grind and hoping to sell more crates. Just a sad story overall. I guess i'm ranting. I can't see myself playing this game very long unless major overhauls come soon.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 1:13:48 GMT
I've already played for 125 hours but I'm still missing 130 ultra rares. Lol what? Is that supposed to be bad? I have played for 250 hours and still missing 135 Ultra Rares. That's according to apex hq which i think is actual time spent in games. If we are also talking time spent in menus and waiting between games etc then it's a lot more than 125 hours.
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Post by spacev3gan on Apr 15, 2017 1:18:14 GMT
Lol what? Is that supposed to be bad? I have played for 250 hours and still missing 135 Ultra Rares. That's according to apex hq which i think is actual time spent in games. If we are also talking time spent in menus and waiting between games etc then it's a lot more than 125 hours. Oh, I never checked that. I have 250 hours in game as per Origin, though I really haven't spent much time doing anything else other than jumping straight to games. If it helps as a form of comparison, my Apex Rating is 14,005.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 1:18:50 GMT
80 URs to go.... sitting on 2.7million in credits for next dlc drops...
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Post by mihai2011rom on Apr 15, 2017 1:38:42 GMT
Got 110 hours played. Still need 160 UR's. Won't buy anymore packs until dlc drops.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 1:44:26 GMT
Got 110 hours played. Still need 160 UR's. Won't buy anymore packs until dlc drops. Yeah same here, I'm just saving up now. The current existing ultra rares are overall not worth the effort it takes to unlock them (on average 8 gold games per UR ), at this point I will just stockpile for dlc and hope I have enough to have a chance at actually getting dlc stuff if something comes out that I really want.
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Post by riviet on Apr 15, 2017 1:53:41 GMT
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 2:03:44 GMT
Ive seen it, at the end of the day they are about the same for maxing UR's though so that doesn't make much of a difference in terms of time spent to max out n7s. But next time I buy crates I'll probably go for experts.
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Post by neightrix on Apr 15, 2017 3:08:05 GMT
Got 110 hours played. Still need 160 UR's. Won't buy anymore packs until dlc drops. Yep, I was at 106 hours played with 161 left. Which means over 700 hours for a maxed manifest. Maxed ME3 manifest in under 600 hours with every DLC pack installed. Seems like they thought treating multiplayer more like a free-to-play game would make them more money. Characters and attachments should have capped at 5. Some rare weapons should be uncommon. Some ultra-rares should be rare. I think it makes sense to measure play time. You'll probably CTD from at least 5% of those games if you don't host anyway. Everyone should be sure to use their play time on the APEX app, Origin is likely very inflated.
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