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Same-Gender Romances is a series of mods that allow both male and female Shepard to romance Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, and Thane throughout the trilogy, made possible through the restoration of unused dialogue. Features- Both male and female Shepard can now flirt with Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, and Thane and pursue romances with them.
- Imported same-gender romances with Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, and Thane are now properly recognized in certain scenes and dialogue.
- Romances with Ashley and Kaidan will no longer start automatically in ME1; Shepard must now choose to flirt with them in order for a romance to begin.
- Shepard will appear properly in the romance scene in ME1.
- FemShep can have a fling with Jack and receive a kiss from Gianna Parasini in ME2.
- Some flirts with Miranda and Jacob are now available for both Shepards in ME2.
- FemShep can now rekindle an imported romance with Ashley in ME3.
- Kaidan will no longer "forget" a past relationship with MaleShep in ME3.
- Ashley and Kaidan can now be chosen as love interests in new ME2 and ME3 playthroughs regardless of gender using the Genesis DLC.
- Only includes voiced dialogue and properly animated scenes.
- Characters will not refer to Shepard as the wrong gender.
Download for ME1Download for ME2Download for ME3
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 24, 2017 4:02:58 GMT
For the record, so far it's working great. Haven't had a problem, Liara acknowledges Kaidan as someone special, and Ash has totally backed off. Haven't gone to Ilos yet so can't comment on the romance scene.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 25, 2017 2:40:23 GMT
OK, so Kaidan has the sex scene with BroShep. Amazing. Even got to see Kaidan's ass.
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Post by sil on Apr 25, 2017 13:12:56 GMT
Out of curiosity, how does this impact imports on the next two games?
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 25, 2017 16:04:32 GMT
Guesswork, because I don't know and the mod was strictly for ME1. The mod author could do this sort of thing in ME1 because all the dialogue was voice already. It had to be unlocked for s/s romances. Since the animations exist for [almost] kissing and sex scenes, it just subs in the character who is being romanced.
On to ME2 and ME3, there was no voiced dialogue for a continued same sex romance. If you have captions on, it will show that dialogue but Mark Meers and Jennifer Hale never voiced them. No way around that. Also don't know about the email from Kaidan referring to you as a woman (or man for Ash, I assume). I'll have to see once I get into ME2.
I assume the mod will still break the Genesis DLC. Even under gender swap, Genesis will stop once it gets to the point where it would discuss who you romanced. Can't handle the same sex stuff.
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Post by roivas on Apr 27, 2017 18:30:40 GMT
OK, so Kaidan has the sex scene with BroShep. Amazing. Even got to see Kaidan's ass. omg nice I really need to start a new me1 pt then
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Post by dmc1001 on May 17, 2017 2:57:16 GMT
OK, so Kaidan has the sex scene with BroShep. Amazing. Even got to see Kaidan's ass. omg nice I really need to start a new me1 pt then You definitely should. Btw, I've been scanning the old social.bioware.com site and found some Kaidan boards. Been going through the ones specific to Luciano Costa. There's someone who posted there with a handle similar to yours. Is that you?
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Post by roivas on May 25, 2017 17:02:23 GMT
omg nice I really need to start a new me1 pt then You definitely should. Btw, I've been scanning the old social.bioware.com site and found some Kaidan boards. Been going through the ones specific to Luciano Costa. There's someone who posted there with a handle similar to yours. Is that you? might be yes, I had an account on the BSN ^^
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 2, 2017 14:23:12 GMT
Version 2.0 has been released! The update brings new changes and additions to Kaidan's dialogue, the implementation of certain dialogue and features for same-sex romances with Ashley and Kaidan, as well as minor bug fixes. Changes:- Reworked the dialogue wheel options leading up to the flirt that initiates Kaidan's romance.
- Added two Renegade options for MaleShep during Kaidan's romance.
- FemSheps romancing Ashley and MaleSheps romancing Kaidan can now dance with them at Flux.
- Ashley and Kaidan's ambient flirts on the Citadel dock now depend on an active romance, rather than Shepard's gender.
- Fixed instances of Ashley referring to FemShep as "sir" in the post-Eden Prime conversation and the Virmire debrief.
- Kaidan will now only express an attraction to Liara if he is not being romanced.
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Post by sil on Jun 2, 2017 19:52:14 GMT
It's awesome to hear you're still working on this, bravo! I won't be doing any homosexual romances, but it's still great that cut content is being restored.
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 2, 2017 21:59:27 GMT
It's awesome to hear you're still working on this, bravo! I won't be doing any homosexual romances, but it's still great that cut content is being restored. Thanks! I'm also working on a mod for ME3 to hopefully fix most of the issues with importing the romances, and I've made some early progress on a version for ME2 as well.
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Post by sil on Jun 2, 2017 22:00:36 GMT
That's really impressive. Think you'll dive into the challenge of bringing back the Tali/Miranda femShep romances, or are you going to stick with just the Virmire pair?
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 2, 2017 22:13:20 GMT
That's really impressive. Think you'll dive into the challenge of bringing back the Tali/Miranda femShep romances, or are you going to stick with just the Virmire pair? I'd like to, but because of the current lack of conditional editing for ME2, I don't think it's possible right now (at least for an immersive solution). The first release will most likely just stick with Ash and Kaidan, but as soon as conditional editing becomes possible, I'll definitely see what I can do. I'm most interested in Tali's and also Thane's unused same-sex romances, since there's unused content for them even in ME3.
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Post by sil on Jun 2, 2017 23:42:11 GMT
That's fair, the toolset for ME2 is sadly underdeveloped, which is a shame as in many ways it has the greatest room for expansion due to the lack of genocide hanging over the galaxy . Even so, even by editing Ashley and Kaidan, you're doing great work. I'll have to install your mod sometime. Hopefully you will install mine if I ever get the next part out
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 3, 2017 0:41:48 GMT
That's fair, the toolset for ME2 is sadly underdeveloped, which is a shame as in many ways it has the greatest room for expansion due to the lack of genocide hanging over the galaxy . Even so, even by editing Ashley and Kaidan, you're doing great work. I'll have to install your mod sometime. Hopefully you will install mine if I ever get the next part out Thank you! I'll definitely check out your mod when I can do a playthrough of ME3.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 3, 2017 3:41:34 GMT
Version 2.0 has been released! The update brings new changes and additions to Kaidan's dialogue, the implementation of certain dialogue and features for same-sex romances with Ashley and Kaidan, as well as minor bug fixes. Changes:- Reworked the dialogue wheel options leading up to the flirt that initiates Kaidan's romance.
- Added two Renegade options for MaleShep during Kaidan's romance.
- FemSheps romancing Ashley and MaleSheps romancing Kaidan can now dance with them at Flux.
- Ashley and Kaidan's ambient flirts on the Citadel dock now depend on an active romance, rather than Shepard's gender.
- Fixed instances of Ashley referring to FemShep as "sir" in the post-Eden Prime conversation and the Virmire debrief.
- Kaidan will no longer express an attraction to Liara while he is being romanced by MaleShep.
Amazing! Going to have to install it and see it for myself, though I maybe have to complete ME2 and then ME3 before that happens. Still, I have Backoff installed and waiting for me in ME3, which is supposed to add some depth to romances in general, including s/s. I checked it out with a completed run and it's interesting how the dialogue has been separated out to make it clear if you're seeking romance or friendship. Glad I can dance with Kaidan. I've never been able to dance with anyone in ME1!! I was never bothered by bisexual Kaidan but neither will the absence of his "art appreciation" bother me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 3, 2017 3:42:54 GMT
It's awesome to hear you're still working on this, bravo! I won't be doing any homosexual romances, but it's still great that cut content is being restored. Thanks! I'm also working on a mod for ME3 to hopefully fix most of the issues with importing the romances, and I've made some early progress on a version for ME2 as well. I only have one issue with ME2 and it's the email from Kaidan calling me a woman! I'd so love to see that fixed. I don't believe there's any audio dialogue recorded in ME2 or ME3 for an imported s/s romance like there was for ME1. I think we still have to rely on captions.
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 4, 2017 4:49:37 GMT
Glad I can dance with Kaidan. I've never been able to dance with anyone in ME1!! I was never bothered by bisexual Kaidan but neither will the absence of his "art appreciation" bother me. The reason for the change was because Kaidan doesn't tell FemShep about his attraction to Liara (instead, he only says "She seems nice enough"). I edited the dialogue so it includes MaleShep under certain conditions, rather than having it be needlessly gender-locked. I only have one issue with ME2 and it's the email from Kaidan calling me a woman! I'd so love to see that fixed. I don't believe there's any audio dialogue recorded in ME2 or ME3 for an imported s/s romance like there was for ME1. I think we still have to rely on captions. There's some unused audio for the romances in ME2 and ME3. Not nearly as much as in ME1, but still some. I'll try to restore as much of it as I can, but there definitely are conversations and dialogue that won't be available for the same-sex romances due to missing audio and/or facial animations. The ME2 mod will most likely include an edit for the email, as well as fixes for the post-Horizon conversations with Joker and Kelly. Also, I think I may have figured out what exactly was causing the Genesis DLC to stop when importing a same-sex Ash/Kaidan romance, so I might be able to include a fix for it that will also allow Shepard to choose Ashley or Kaidan as same-sex options in new ME2 playthroughs with the DLC.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 4, 2017 4:54:54 GMT
rondeeno: I assumed the Genesis dlc stopped because you only had two options for romance: Liara and Ashley. Since the game was recognizing a different option, and Genesis only had the other two, it failed. Doesn't bother me a bit. It's only there should I want to start a fresh ME2 run.
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Post by roivas on Jun 5, 2017 12:29:44 GMT
Version 2.0 has been released! The update brings new changes and additions to Kaidan's dialogue, the implementation of certain dialogue and features for same-sex romances with Ashley and Kaidan, as well as minor bug fixes. Changes:- Reworked the dialogue wheel options leading up to the flirt that initiates Kaidan's romance.
- Added two Renegade options for MaleShep during Kaidan's romance.
- FemSheps romancing Ashley and MaleSheps romancing Kaidan can now dance with them at Flux.
- Ashley and Kaidan's ambient flirts on the Citadel dock now depend on an active romance, rather than Shepard's gender.
- Fixed instances of Ashley referring to FemShep as "sir" in the post-Eden Prime conversation and the Virmire debrief.
- Kaidan will now only express an attraction to Liara if he is not being romanced.
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Post by roivas on Jun 5, 2017 12:40:57 GMT
It's awesome to hear you're still working on this, bravo! I won't be doing any homosexual romances, but it's still great that cut content is being restored. Thanks! I'm also working on a mod for ME3 to hopefully fix most of the issues with importing the romances, and I've made some early progress on a version for ME2 as well. wow really you'll mod ME2 & 3 too ^^. I started a pt in ME1 to try your mod but stopped because I was waiting for my holydays (had a lot of new game for my birthday so kinda need to do them first XD) Do you plan more updates for ME1? because if you do i might just wait that you finish it so I can enjoy your full work!! Happy to see you'll change the letter in ME2 too ME3 mshenko's romance with imported ME1 save worked pretty well on it's own, I know it miss voices when you first visit Kaidan in the hopital + for 1 dialogue option in Shepards's room. You will dot something about that too ? (not sure if it's possible). Not sure waht else you want to fix Anyway, thanks a lot for your work
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 8, 2017 11:57:37 GMT
Thanks! I'm also working on a mod for ME3 to hopefully fix most of the issues with importing the romances, and I've made some early progress on a version for ME2 as well. wow really you'll mod ME2 & 3 too ^^. I started a pt in ME1 to try your mod but stopped because I was waiting for my holydays (had a lot of new game for my birthday so kinda need to do them first XD) Do you plan more updates for ME1? because if you do i might just wait that you finish it so I can enjoy your full work!! Happy to see you'll change the letter in ME2 too ME3 mshenko's romance with imported ME1 save worked pretty well on it's own, I know it miss voices when you first visit Kaidan in the hopital + for 1 dialogue option in Shepards's room. You will dot something about that too ? (not sure if it's possible). Not sure waht else you want to fix Anyway, thanks a lot for your work I'm pretty happy with the current state of the mod. There might be some more minor changes/fixes, but probably nothing major for a long time at least. The ME3 mod will prevent unvoiced dialogue from playing by using dialogue with existing audio instead. For example, when visiting a romanced Kaidan in the hospital, MaleShep will say the default "Hey, Kaidan" instead of the unvoiced line. The other fix would be to the Presidium date scene, so that Kaidan will remember his past relationship with MaleShep instead of using the "new romance" dialogue by default. And no problem!
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Post by deadlydwarf on Jun 8, 2017 15:29:05 GMT
wow really you'll mod ME2 & 3 too ^^. I started a pt in ME1 to try your mod but stopped because I was waiting for my holydays (had a lot of new game for my birthday so kinda need to do them first XD) Do you plan more updates for ME1? because if you do i might just wait that you finish it so I can enjoy your full work!! Happy to see you'll change the letter in ME2 too ME3 mshenko's romance with imported ME1 save worked pretty well on it's own, I know it miss voices when you first visit Kaidan in the hopital + for 1 dialogue option in Shepards's room. You will dot something about that too ? (not sure if it's possible). Not sure waht else you want to fix Anyway, thanks a lot for your work I'm pretty happy with the current state of the mod. There might be some more minor changes/fixes, but probably nothing major for a long time at least. The ME3 mod will prevent unvoiced dialogue from playing by using dialogue with existing audio instead. For example, when visiting a romanced Kaidan in the hospital, MaleShep will say the default "Hey, Kaidan" instead of the unvoiced line. The other fix would be to the Presidium date scene, so that Kaidan will remember his past relationship with MaleShep instead of using the "new romance" dialogue by default. And no problem! I used the previous version of this mod to have my Fem Shep romance Ashley. Once it was properly installed, it worked very well in ME 1. (The tweaks are definitely welcome, though.) In ME2, there's very little Kaidan or Ashley content, period, beyond the one scene at the colony. In fem shep's cabin, though, you did still see Ashley photo on display. Things got messy in ME3, of course. Initially, it recognizes the romance. After Eva puts Ashley in the hospital, it continues to recognize the relationship, but there was at least one moment when Fem Shep speaks with male Shep's voice. After Ashley is released, memory of the relationship is gone. My Fem Shep was free to pursue Traynor (though it was annoying to James hitting on Ashley during the party at Anderson's apartment). I look forward to seeing an ME3 mod that allows Fem Shep to finish the romance! Many thanks for your hard work!
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Post by rondeeno on Jun 17, 2017 6:23:30 GMT
Just a quick update: almost all of the initial work for the ME3 mod has been completed. Now all that's really left is testing everything and making sure it all works properly, and I have no idea how long that's going to take.
If anyone would be interested in helping out (i.e. sending me save files, etc.), please send me a PM and let me know. I would greatly appreciate it.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Jun 19, 2017 17:09:08 GMT
Just a quick update: almost all of the initial work for the ME3 mod has been completed. Now all that's really left is testing everything and making sure it all works properly, and I have no idea how long that's going to take. If anyone would be interested in helping out (i.e. sending me save files, etc.), please send me a PM and let me know. I would greatly appreciate it. Dumb question. How do I send a save file? I did one full MET PT with a FemShep who romanced Ashley with your first ME1 mod. Would I send you the final ME2 save for that FemShep?
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