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Post by Serza on Apr 19, 2017 16:36:26 GMT
What would you do without me, eh. Put on a blindfold, grab the nearest guy, and make him my new token straight friend.  D'aaaaw. It's nice you care. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 17:48:07 GMT
So exactly like the Iron Bull and Zevran.  Hell all Iron Bull talks about is how much he loves banging the ladies. Zevran at least stops when you're romancing him. But really they both are just horrible romance options. |
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 19, 2017 17:55:42 GMT
What are you gonna do, spontaneously spawn proper M/M content by whining about it on unofficial forums? You are free to believe in the fantasy that they might actually sink money back into animation and booking voice actors back just to pacify us gay men who make up 4-5% of the population at best. I doubt the people behind the money with Bioware will make that judgement. At best we get some joke alien romance with Jaal. Sorry bubba, we ain't getting no James Vega on ME:A this time either. And let's be honest, we took Kaidan because that's all we had (he had the personality of a spoon, but was the only male human M/M squad mate). Steve Cortez was virtually the same shit we have now, some background ugly NPC made with character creator. BW has established themselves as an inclusive company, and there's proof of that in their games. When a company produces LGBT content in their media, it attracts attention of LGBT people, and people who enjoy LGBT content. Thus the percentage of LGBT players can be higher than one would expect. Take a bar for example, not a gay bar, but a '' regular '' bar. They go out of their way to include LGBT people in their advertisement and events, and want that good gay money. Don't you think such a bar would attract more LGBT people than a '' regular '' bar that doesn't go out of their way to be '' inclusive? '' Thus while the bar isn't by any means a gay bar, the percentage of LGBT people going there is higher than you'd imagine. I'm not saying that LGBT gamers or gay men make up a high percentage of ME community, but I just thought that using that statistic is a bit too much and can be deceiving. I don't know what fantasy world you live in where regular straight bars are remotely welcoming of gay people and gay money. For the most part they've been incredibly hostile environments to gay people (which is why we had to form our own bars), and their practices are to basically exclude as many men as possible and pack it with women to create an environment in which a few wealthy men will pay for many women's drinks. Gay men comprise 4-5% of the population, and just like straight people only a fraction of that 4-5% even plays videogames, let alone RPG shooters. You are committing the same mistake by overestimating LGBT presence that led to people being shocked when Proposition 8 passed in California or the Florida Amendment 2 passed with 52% support of YOUNG people in South Miami, a supposedly gay mecca. We have never had the numbers to be politically powerful or financially relevant. Look at the pathetic showings in TV and movies. When we do get something, it's because elite straight people support it, be it the courts which stripped out DADT or the federal marriage bans or corporate leaders pushing for business policy changes. So it's just how it's going to work. We make a case and hope the straight guy/woman in charge is receptive to it next time. Threatening "you're not going to get my gay money" is a drop in the ocean. Gay people can't even fund LGBT content channel that isn't some shitty sister channel of MTV's running garbage reality shows and D-list TV actor shows with shoestring budgets. |
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Post by smellycatbutts on Apr 19, 2017 20:57:24 GMT
BW has established themselves as an inclusive company, and there's proof of that in their games. When a company produces LGBT content in their media, it attracts attention of LGBT people, and people who enjoy LGBT content. Thus the percentage of LGBT players can be higher than one would expect. Take a bar for example, not a gay bar, but a '' regular '' bar. They go out of their way to include LGBT people in their advertisement and events, and want that good gay money. Don't you think such a bar would attract more LGBT people than a '' regular '' bar that doesn't go out of their way to be '' inclusive? '' Thus while the bar isn't by any means a gay bar, the percentage of LGBT people going there is higher than you'd imagine. I'm not saying that LGBT gamers or gay men make up a high percentage of ME community, but I just thought that using that statistic is a bit too much and can be deceiving. I don't know what fantasy world you live in where regular straight bars are remotely welcoming of gay people and gay money. For the most part they've been incredibly hostile environments to gay people (which is why we had to form our own bars), and their practices are to basically exclude as many men as possible and pack it with women to create an environment in which a few wealthy men will pay for many women's drinks. Gay men comprise 4-5% of the population, and just like straight people only a fraction of that 4-5% even plays videogames, let alone RPG shooters. You are committing the same mistake by overestimating LGBT presence that led to people being shocked when Proposition 8 passed in California or the Florida Amendment 2 passed with 52% support of YOUNG people in South Miami, a supposedly gay mecca. We have never had the numbers to be politically powerful or financially relevant. Look at the pathetic showings in TV and movies. When we do get something, it's because elite straight people support it, be it the courts which stripped out DADT or the federal marriage bans or corporate leaders pushing for business policy changes. So it's just how it's going to work. We make a case and hope the straight guy/woman in charge is receptive to it next time. Threatening "you're not going to get my gay money" is a drop in the ocean. Gay people can't even fund LGBT content channel that isn't some shitty sister channel of MTV's running garbage reality shows and D-list TV actor shows with shoestring budgets. Agreed. You want equal representation? Get the Donald Trumps of the world to care, but they won't bc they're Donald Trumps. |
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 19, 2017 21:53:53 GMT
I don't know what fantasy world you live in where regular straight bars are remotely welcoming of gay people and gay money. For the most part they've been incredibly hostile environments to gay people (which is why we had to form our own bars), and their practices are to basically exclude as many men as possible and pack it with women to create an environment in which a few wealthy men will pay for many women's drinks. Gay men comprise 4-5% of the population, and just like straight people only a fraction of that 4-5% even plays videogames, let alone RPG shooters. You are committing the same mistake by overestimating LGBT presence that led to people being shocked when Proposition 8 passed in California or the Florida Amendment 2 passed with 52% support of YOUNG people in South Miami, a supposedly gay mecca. We have never had the numbers to be politically powerful or financially relevant. Look at the pathetic showings in TV and movies. When we do get something, it's because elite straight people support it, be it the courts which stripped out DADT or the federal marriage bans or corporate leaders pushing for business policy changes. So it's just how it's going to work. We make a case and hope the straight guy/woman in charge is receptive to it next time. Threatening "you're not going to get my gay money" is a drop in the ocean. Gay people can't even fund LGBT content channel that isn't some shitty sister channel of MTV's running garbage reality shows and D-list TV actor shows with shoestring budgets. Agreed. You want equal representation? Get the Donald Trumps of the world to care, but they won't bc they're Donald Trumps. Please stay away from metaphors. |
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Post by 4neu on Apr 19, 2017 23:45:08 GMT
BW has established themselves as an inclusive company, and there's proof of that in their games. When a company produces LGBT content in their media, it attracts attention of LGBT people, and people who enjoy LGBT content. Thus the percentage of LGBT players can be higher than one would expect. Take a bar for example, not a gay bar, but a '' regular '' bar. They go out of their way to include LGBT people in their advertisement and events, and want that good gay money. Don't you think such a bar would attract more LGBT people than a '' regular '' bar that doesn't go out of their way to be '' inclusive? '' Thus while the bar isn't by any means a gay bar, the percentage of LGBT people going there is higher than you'd imagine. I'm not saying that LGBT gamers or gay men make up a high percentage of ME community, but I just thought that using that statistic is a bit too much and can be deceiving. I don't know what fantasy world you live in where regular straight bars are remotely welcoming of gay people and gay money. For the most part they've been incredibly hostile environments to gay people (which is why we had to form our own bars), and their practices are to basically exclude as many men as possible and pack it with women to create an environment in which a few wealthy men will pay for many women's drinks. Gay men comprise 4-5% of the population, and just like straight people only a fraction of that 4-5% even plays videogames, let alone RPG shooters. You are committing the same mistake by overestimating LGBT presence that led to people being shocked when Proposition 8 passed in California or the Florida Amendment 2 passed with 52% support of YOUNG people in South Miami, a supposedly gay mecca. We have never had the numbers to be politically powerful or financially relevant. Look at the pathetic showings in TV and movies. When we do get something, it's because elite straight people support it, be it the courts which stripped out DADT or the federal marriage bans or corporate leaders pushing for business policy changes. So it's just how it's going to work. We make a case and hope the straight guy/woman in charge is receptive to it next time. Threatening "you're not going to get my gay money" is a drop in the ocean. Gay people can't even fund LGBT content channel that isn't some shitty sister channel of MTV's running garbage reality shows and D-list TV actor shows with shoestring budgets. I would be interested in a source on those numbers, specifically gay men who play video games... |
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 20, 2017 3:06:32 GMT
I'm gay myself and couldn't care less about making Jaal or any squad mate gay. Also, I don't recall but was there a lot of crying before and that's why they made Kaidan bi for ME3?
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Post by smellycatbutts on Apr 20, 2017 6:55:37 GMT
Agreed. You want equal representation? Get the Donald Trumps of the world to care, but they won't bc they're Donald Trumps. Please stay away from metaphors. I know metaphors, I have the best metaphors. |
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 20, 2017 15:19:35 GMT
I'm gay myself and couldn't care less about making Jaal or any squad mate gay. Also, I don't recall but was there a lot of crying before and that's why they made Kaidan bi for ME3? But it wasn't Garrus, so not a lot of people really cared. |
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Post by turianlannister on Apr 22, 2017 23:48:30 GMT
This was never about wanting more content for Future Backstabber Reyes and Jill's Baby Daddy. Frankly I'd be irritated they get more content than what they already have, they're terrible enough as it is. While I don't agree with the Jaal being bi thing anymore, the reasoning behind that campaign was because they wanted a squadmate to romance AND the guys wanted an alien husbando to romance, which we have never had. I don't think we can even flirt with an alien guy. I don't think Jaal is the way to go because I accept they made him as straight as possible but I do get it. I was just about to say: it's bestiality at the very least. Pffft no. It's a sentient intelligent being in that scenario, not an animal. I would pick a Turian, a Drell, an Angara and yes even a Salarian over a human guy any day of the week. Male Ryder gets a one time flirt option with Drack |
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Post by Rochrok on Apr 23, 2017 6:52:17 GMT
I agree that Jaal's romance should be left the way it is because even if they offered it as an option it would just be Sara swapped for Scott complete with Jaal going down on Scott's ken doll anatomy. It would just be another crumb.
I think the m/m squadmate issue is better solved by making Reyes a squadmate. They already have fighting animations for the character, and he can even follow you (He followed me after a quest and sadly I had to leave him behind), they already have companions talk about him. I wouldn't mind this being done, even if it takes a few months. But even this is wishful thinking. The only sensible solution is fixing the animations for Reyes and Scott, perhaps add one more scene (sex scene perhaps?) and Gil needs a better sex scene and perhaps another non sex scene where we actually get to know him and not Jill.
**I also wouldn't mind a non CC look for both of them cause seriously, the CC is used for both options that can romanced by a male. Really Bioware?
I am 100% not cool with playing the "Wait for the next game" game. The thirst for Bioware would have to be real asf.
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Hell all Iron Bull talks about is how much he loves banging the ladies. Zevran at least stops when you're romancing him. But really they both are just horrible romance options.
