The Witcher 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda thread

Apr 19, 2017 16:42:36 GMT @domi said:

Well, the definitive info will come in time, I suppose. But they must have based that sketch of something, likely a forum chatter in Polish, because they link to Polish forums. That article actually was giving the most description of the setting of the game than I have seen to date. It's also a fair bit darker than I expected, but it could be because the article is written to emphasize the EVEN DARKER and EVEN BIGGER aspects. neither of which is a selling point for me, tbh, but that's not factual, more emotional interpretation, while the description of the protagonist seems like it was cut out from a blurb.

Anyway, for now I am disappointed, because since Obsidian went indie, I was hoping for another developer to materialize in the genre.

Honestly, I wouldn't blame CDPR if they decided to keep doing what worked for them.

The style of TW3 allowed for deep personal narrative, appropriate reactivity, and cut-scenes that were tailored and showed the abilities and personality of the protagonist, etc.

So while in theory I would have enjoyed a full character creator that allowed me to choose between a Witcher, a Mage/Sorceress, an Alchemist, a knight, and perhaps an Elven scoia'tael - I do understand why

they chose to portray a single defined character, it is very much in line with a "less is more" approach, which I prefer over Bioware's "wide as an ocean deep as a puddle" approach.

They fail to understand the impact and importance of mods on games like Skyrim and Fallout. Hell, TW3 had mods IN ADDITION to strong narrative and side content.

Take the romances for example. In TW3 Geralt had two potential (full) romance arcs, and even the lesser one (content wise) was likely superior to anything I remember from a Bioware game.

This is not a level of quality that can be maintained realistically when you have six, eight, or more romance options.

So again, why should they go for the Bioware style if in order to do it they would need to give up much of what made their game great?

Apr 19, 2017 17:11:26 GMT @domi said:

I understand that it is a logical choice, because people like it. For me though, a game without a party, and with a fixed protagonist is not worth playing. I really like all those choices in both cc, friendships, and romances as a part of each PT experience. To me the predetermined romance: This is Geralt's woman! Love her! cannot be superior to even a slight hint of a romance with an NPC you chose to fall in love with. For many years no character has beaten Bao-Dur for me on the strength of the single dialogue, the "Longest you have looked at me..." it had such longing that despite Bao not being romanceable, the whole story was just... awesome.

And for me, no matter how awesome the character that Kiera is that they author of the article quotes, Liam, right there, on the mission, after rubbing shoulders with him, fighting along-side and listening to his comments, is infinitely dearer than any non-arty character can ever be.

I'd say that while you don't have a character creator or an actual party you are fighting with, much of what you are describing is present in TW3. Did you play the game?

As for Liam and Keira Metz, you actually go with her on a mission as well and fight shoulder to shoulder with her (while dividing the tasks appropriately according to her and Geralt's skills), the banter and comments are certainly there.

There is virtually no difference if you look at it from this aspect.

Apr 19, 2017 17:22:55 GMT @domi said:

I do not own Witcher games, because I do not want to play Geralt. I have played Blade and Soul which had customizable protagonist and repeat cast of characters that fought by your side from time to time, but there was no party. I loved the art and parts of the story there, but I have not liked the no-party aspect. I do not want a game that restricts both the protagonist and has no party system. If Cyberpunk has at least one of those, I would purchase it. If it has none, I will not.

Have you at least watched gameplay and conversations before you decided that you absolutely won't play the game?

*shrug* It's your choice, but I know that quite a few people who felt wary of TW3 tried it eventually and liked it.

Apr 19, 2017 16:42:36 GMT @domi said:

Well, the definitive info will come in time, I suppose. But they must have based that sketch of something, likely a forum chatter in Polish, because they link to Polish forums. That article actually was giving the most description of the setting of the game than I have seen to date. It's also a fair bit darker than I expected, but it could be because the article is written to emphasize the EVEN DARKER and EVEN BIGGER aspects. neither of which is a selling point for me, tbh, but that's not factual, more emotional interpretation, while the description of the protagonist seems like it was cut out from a blurb.

Anyway, for now I am disappointed, because since Obsidian went indie, I was hoping for another developer to materialize in the genre.

Honestly, I wouldn't blame CDPR if they decided to keep doing what worked for them.

The style of TW3 allowed for deep personal narrative, appropriate reactivity, and cut-scenes that were tailored and showed the abilities and personality of the protagonist, etc.

So while in theory I would have enjoyed a full character creator that allowed me to choose between a Witcher, a Mage/Sorceress, an Alchemist, a knight, and perhaps an Elven scoia'tael - I do understand why

they chose to portray a single defined character, it is very much in line with a "less is more" approach, which I prefer over Bioware's "wide as an ocean deep as a puddle" approach.

They fail to understand the impact and importance of mods on games like Skyrim and Fallout. Hell, TW3 had mods IN ADDITION to strong narrative and side content.

Take the romances for example. In TW3 Geralt had two potential (full) romance arcs, and even the lesser one (content wise) was likely superior to anything I remember from a Bioware game.

This is not a level of quality that can be maintained realistically when you have six, eight, or more romance options.

So again, why should they go for the Bioware style if in order to do it they would need to give up much of what made their game great?